Big Daddy Kane was basically washed at like 25, how did that happen?

[I love Latina women]

Kane should’ve just started doing movies with Fred Williamson in the 90’s and he could’ve been like the second coming of one Fred Williamson’s characters

Hell Up in Harlem AGAIN
Black Caesar’s Return

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Kane should’ve just started doing movies with Fred Williamson in the 90’s and he could’ve been like the second coming of one Fred Williamson’s characters

Hell Up in Harlem AGAIN
Black Caesar’s Return

Kane did start doing movies in the 90s. He was Father Time in The Posse and one of the villains in Meteor Man. He also had a part in Gunmen

 

[I love Latina women]

Kane did start doing movies in the 90s. He was Father Time in The Posse and one of the villains in Meteor Man. He also had a part in Gunmen

Oh yeah i know but I mean Hanson’s just taken it on full time and let the music be the secondary career at that point


Him linking up Fred Williamson would’ve been perfect


I forgot about Gunmen. Rakim was in that too

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Oh yeah i know but I mean Hanson’s just taken it on full time and let the music be the secondary career at that point


Him linking up Fred Williamson would’ve been perfect


I forgot about Gunmen. Rakim was in that too

yep. I remember being hyped when I first saw the trailer because I thought Rakim was going to star in it. When I saw that movie, I was disappointed because 1, it was azz and 2, Rakim's part wasn't even big.

 

[I love Latina women]

yep. I remember being hyped when I first saw the trailer because I thought Rakim was going to star in it. When I saw that movie, I was disappointed because 1, it was azz and 2, Rakim's part wasn't even big.

Facts; it wasn’t good at all

Yeah the trailer lead you to believe Rakim was going to have a major role in it

 

[_genocidecutter_]

Ain't no half steppin

 

[UpAndComing]

Rap quickly evolved year over year starting in the early 90's before it blew up and went fully mainstream

This is the answer. Rap evolved extremely fast back then

Drill/Trap lasted for years and years in this modern era

Back then, popular rap styles typically had a shelf life of a couple of years. That's why guys like LL get so much praise for longevity.

Absolute facts, 100% agree with this

1978 - 1981 - Disco Party Rap
1982 - 1985 - Run DMC/LL Cool J/Early Def Jam scream loud on the mic aggressively rap
1986 - 1989 - Rakim/Kool G Rap/BDK multi-syllabic rhymes rap
1990 - 1993 - West Coast Gangsta Rap and Tribe/De La Soul/etc alternative Rap
1994 - 1999 - East Coast Mafioso super lyrical Rap


Wasn't until the 2000s did you see Rap styles and Eras slow down and actually take a decade to expire. Hip Hop game was brutal pre-2000 to try to keep up with the styles. Back then, rappers like Run DMC, Kurtis Blow, BDK, Kool Moe Dee, sounded outdated when they were only 27 yrs old. Nowadays rappers can have long careers into their mid-40s

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Absolute facts, 100% agree with this

1978 - 1981 - Disco Party Rap
1982 - 1985 - Run DMC/LL Cool J/Early Def Jam scream loud on the mic aggressively rap
1986 - 1989 - Rakim/Kool G Rap/BDK multi-syllabic rhymes rap
1990 - 1993 - West Coast Gangsta Rap and Tribe/De La Soul/etc alternative Rap
1994 - 1999 - East Coast Mafioso super lyrical Rap


Wasn't until the 2000s did you see Rap styles and Eras slow down and actually take a decade to expire. Hip Hop game was brutal pre-2000 to try to keep up with the styles. Back then, rappers like Run DMC, Kurtis Blow, BDK, Kool Moe Dee, sounded outdated when they were only 27 yrs old. Nowadays rappers can have long careers into their mid-40s

you're on point, but you got the 90-93 era wrong.

90-92 was the pro black concious movement with Brand Nubian, PE, PRT, X Clan(who was nominated for an NAACP award), Paris, KRS, and others. Even LL was rocking African medallions after being booed on stage

End of 92-early 94 was the west coast gangsta Rap era. Wutang/Tribe/Onyx snuck in platinum albums during that era

 

[UpAndComing]

you're on point, but you got the 90-93 era wrong.

90-92 was the pro black concious movement with Brand Nubian, PE, PRT, X Clan(who was nominated for an NAACP award), Paris, KRS, and others. Even LL was rocking African medallions after being booed on stage

End of 92-early 94 was the west coast gangsta Rap era. Wutang/Tribe/Onyx snuck in platinum albums during that era

We are not really disagreeing here. I still say 90-93 was the era West Coast Gangsta Rap made it's mark. Ice Cube breaking away from NWA and putting out his solo albums (his biggest albums coming in 90, 91, 92, and 93), the Chronic coming out in 91, Snoops debut album in 1993, DJ Quik's emergence in 1991

And I did mention De La Soul, which was part of the pro black consciousness era in the early 90s. Even had Queen Latifah wearing Ankhs and African necklaces in her video Ladies First

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

chronic was late 92. nikkaz4life was 91 though

 

[Awesome Wells]

And I did mention De La Soul, which was part of the pro black consciousness era in the early 90s. Even had Queen Latifah wearing Ankhs and African necklaces in her video Ladies First

That was all '89, for the most part though.

They kinda ditched the pro-black sh*t by '91. De La had a lot of party jams and just mainstream Hip Hop on the second album. Brand Nubian, Poor Righteous Teachers and X-Clan kept it going. But the bigger artists definitely got away from it after their first joints. The movement was done. Sadly.

 

[GunRanger]

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

That was all '89, for the most part though.

They kinda ditched the pro-black sh*t by '91. De La had a lot of party jams and just mainstream Hip Hop on the second album. Brand Nubian, Poor Righteous Teachers and X-Clan kept it going. But the bigger artists definitely got away from it after their first joints. The movement was done. Sadly.

I cherish the twilight
I maximize, my soul is the right size
I watch for the power to run out on the moon
(And that'll be sometime soon)
Faker than a fist of kids
Speaking that they're black
When they're just nikkas trying to be Greek
Or some tongues who lied
And said "We'll be natives to the end"
Nowadays we don't even speak
I guess we got our own life to live
Or is it because we want our own kingdom to rule?

 

[Supa]

That was all '89, for the most part though.

They kinda ditched the pro-black sh*t by '91. De La had a lot of party jams and just mainstream Hip Hop on the second album. Brand Nubian, Poor Righteous Teachers and X-Clan kept it going. But the bigger artists definitely got away from it after their first joints. The movement was done. Sadly.

Del La was never really pro black. They along with Tribe were just everyday kids with Afrocentric imagery. The actual music was never that.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Del La was never really pro black. They along with Tribe were just everyday kids with Afrocentric imagery. The actual music was never that.

The messaging was always there though.

On Tribe's first joint, Tip was definitely talking about being "a proud Nubian" and how "his skin is brown" and because of that, he's gonna disrupt the status quo. Pos was talking about freeing the black man's mind to help him elevate on the first album, and how we have to stop seeing ourselves as what other people define us as, and realize that our goals are closer than we know. De La's sh*t was more coded than Tribe's, but their whole thing was about having pride in blackness.

Back then, the whole Native Tongue was about paying homage to Africa and black heritage. That's why Pos said they chose to wear African clothing and black medallions because they wanted to take a stance against people thinking they had to rock gold chains and Gucci, as rappers. So them, Tribe, Jungle, and Latifah intentionally wanted to give respect to African culture with how they spoke on things. They didn't always put it in every song, but it was there and what they were about as people, at the time.