Bible Verse: Deuteronomy 18:18

[SwizzLake]

Christians really should analyze this verse very carefully.

Whom does the Torah speak when God says He will raise up 'a prophet like Moses and I will place My words in his mouth' in Deuteronomy 18:18?

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Prophet Mohammed ايله حسن ماليزيا ?

 

[SwizzLake]

Prophet Mohammed ايله حسن ماليزيا ?

Allahu Akber

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Verse is talking about Christ

 

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Verse is talking about Christ

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It is not talking about Muhummad.

The follow-up verses that Imams seem to forget to include are are in Matthew Chapter 4:

When John, who was in prison, heard about the deeds of the Messiah, he sent his disciples to ask him, “Are you the one who is to come, or should we expect someone else?”

Jesus replied, “Go back and report to John what you hear and see: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor. Blessed is anyone who does not stumble on account of me.”

As John’s disciples were leaving, Jesus began to speak to the crowd about John: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed swayed by the wind? If not, what did you go out to see? A man dressed in fine clothes? No, those who wear fine clothes are in kings’ palaces. Then what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. This is the one about whom it is written:

“‘I will send my messenger ahead of you,
who will prepare your way before you.’

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When John the Baptist asked "are you the one", he was referencing this scripture in Deuteronomy 18:18.

He asked Jesus if he was the one.

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Islam has no legitimacy. The Jews (descendants of Isaac) were elevated by God as a nation specifically for the reason that God would reveal himself to the world through them.

Arabs who are descended from Ishmael were not chosen by God so revelation of God would not have come from them.

 

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Jesus is like Moses in several ways. Moses was both a prophet and a lawgiver, and Jesus is, too. Jesus was widely recognized as a prophet who spoke the Word of God (Matthew 21:46), and He gave commandments for His followers to obey (John 13:34; 15:12, 17; Galatians 6:2). Both Moses and Jesus mediated a covenant between God and men—Moses the Old Covenant (Exodus 34:27; Acts 7:44), and Jesus the New (Luke 22:20; Hebrews 9:15). Both Moses and Jesus were born during perilous times, and both narrowly escaped a king bent on murdering babies (Exodus 1:22 and Matthew 2:16–18). Both Moses and Jesus had a connection to Egypt (Exodus 2:1–4 and Matthew 2:13–14). Moses was the (adopted) son of a king (Exodus 2:10), and Jesus is the Son of the Most High (Luke 1:32). Moses spent forty years as a shepherd (Exodus 3:1), and Jesus is the Good Shepherd (John 10:11, 14). Both Moses and Jesus were known for their meekness (Numbers 12:3 and Matthew 11:29).

Moses and Jesus were alike in that they both led God’s people out of captivity. With great power, Moses led the Israelites out of physical bondage and slavery in Egypt, and Jesus, with even greater power, led God’s elect out of spiritual bondage and slavery to sin. Moses stood before Pharaoh and said, “'Let my people go” (Exodus 5:1). Jesus came “to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and . . . to set the oppressed free” (Luke 4:18). “In Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life has set you free from the law of sin and death” (Romans 8:2).

Moses was also like Jesus in that he performed miracles—not all prophets did. Several of the miracles of Moses bear a resemblance to Jesus’ miracles, most notably the provision of bread in the wilderness (Exodus 16:35), which is comparable to Jesus’ feeding of the 5,000 (John 6:1–13). In fact, after Jesus multiplied the loaves and fishes, the people’s thoughts ran immediately to Moses’ prophecy: “After the people saw the sign Jesus performed, they began to say, ‘Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the world’” (John 6:14).

Another way that Moses was like Jesus is that he held intimate conversations with God: “The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend” (Exodus 33:11). Jesus also had a special relationship to God: “No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son” (Matthew 11:27); “The Father knows me and I know the Father” (John 10:15). When Moses stood in God’s presence, his face shone with a heavenly glory and had to be covered with a veil (Exodus 34:29–35), and this reminds us of Jesus’ transfiguration, when “His face shone like the sun” (Matthew 17:2).

Another important way that Moses was like Jesus is that he constantly interceded for his people. When the Israelites sinned, Moses was always standing by, ready to petition God on their behalf and plead for their forgiveness. After the blatant idolatry at the foot of Mt. Sinai involving the golden calf, Moses interceded twice for the people (Exodus 32:11–13, 30–32), and his intercession was needed at other times, too (e.g., Numbers 11:2; 12:13; 21:7). Moses’ intercession was temporary, but our Lord’s is everlasting. “If anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One” (1 John 2:1). Jesus is right now “at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us” (Romans 8:34). Jesus “always lives to intercede” for us (Hebrews 7:25).

Not only was Moses an intercessor for God’s people but, like Jesus, he was willing to die for them. In Exodus 32:32, Moses offers his life in exchange for sinners. “Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends,” Jesus said (John 15:13), and Jesus proved His love when He “laid down his life for us” (1 John 3:16; cf. John 10:15).

 

[SwizzLake]

@boy Few questions since you're saying Moses was like Jesus.

Deuteronomy 18:18 KJV
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him"




1. Are the Prophets the Word? Or Jesus is?


Did Jesus die and was he buried like Moses? Was Moses what you call a "God Son"?


If you take deuteronomy 18:18, then you must be consistent and take all those prophecies in the psalms saying Jesus won't die and his Prayers will be answered.

 

[IVS]

I wonder

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Christians really should analyze this verse very carefully.

Whom does the Torah speak when God says He will raise up 'a prophet like Moses and I will place My words in his mouth' in Deuteronomy 18:18?

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It wasn't Muhammad.​

 

[Anhur]

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Islam has no legitimacy.

It has more legitimacy than Christianity in the eyes of Rabbis. Muslims are more likely to go to "the world to come (next life)" than Christians according to Rabbis.

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The Jews (descendants of Isaac) were elevated by God as a nation specifically for the reason that God would reveal himself to the world through them.

Arabs who are descended from Ishmael were not chosen by God so revelation of God would not have come from them.

The Jews were chosen by Allah but that changed after taking the lives of some Prophets.

[2.47] O children of Israel! call to mind My favor which I bestowed on you and that I made you excel the nations.

[2:87] Certainly, We gave Moses the Book and followed him with the apostles, and We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, manifest proofs and confirmed him with the Holy Spirit. Is it not that whenever an apostle brought you that which was not to your liking, you would act arrogantly; so you would deny a group [of them], and kill a [nother] group?

There are a couple of more verses in the Quran that also mention this. This is true according to the Bible.

The spirit of God then invested Zechariah son of Jehoiada the priest. He stood up before the people and said, ‘God says this, “Why transgress Yahweh’s commands to your certain ruin? For if you abandon Yahweh, he will abandon you.” * They then plotted against him and, at the king’s order, stoned him in the court of the Temple of Yahweh (2Chronicles 24:20-21).

Elijah responds: “I am full of jealous zeal for Yahweh Sabaoth, because the Israelites have abandoned your covenant, have torn down your altars and put your prophets to the sword. I am the only one left, and now they want to kill me” (1Kings 19:9-10)

That is one of the reasons the final message was revealed through Prophet Muhammad PBUH. They lost their position and Muslims (regardless of ethnicity) gained it.

 

[SwizzLake]

@Dafunkdoc_Unlimited

Jesus was from Israel, then consider this...

1. " And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face" Deut 34-10

This verse rules out Jesus in Deut 18-18

2. Jesus himself said this Prophet will come after him (John 16:13)

 

[ball15life]

@Dafunkdoc_Unlimited

Jesus was from Israel, then consider this...

1. " And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face" Deut 34-10

This verse rules out Jesus in Deut 18-18

2. Jesus himself said this Prophet will come after him (John 16:13)

1. That was referring to the span until Jesus came

2. Jesus was talking about his resurrection in that paragraph

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

@Dafunkdoc_Unlimited

Jesus was from Israel, then consider this...

1. " And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face" Deut 34-10

This verse rules out Jesus in Deut 18-18

No, it actually proves it isn't talking about Muhammad. Also, Deuteronomy was written about 700 years before Jesus was born so that argument fails.
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2. Jesus himself said this Prophet will come after him (John 16:13)

Only if you read that ONE verse and ignore everything else in the chapter, like 16:14, while disregarding the fact that it wasn't a prophet that was coming after J.​

 

[YaThreadFloppedB!]

christians vs muslims



y’all boys still arguing a thousand years after the Crusades huh.

 

[dezert_storm]

Moses, Muhammad, and Jesus are all fictional characters