Better heel: Edge or Orton?

[LastManStanding]

Miz is one of the worst no talents ever.
He is completely protected being a WWE inhouse made performer. Watching him is exactly like watching an amateur reality tv star be gifted a place they really never earned and are really not good at, at all.
As far as edge, he was just there and his only great period inring ever.
was the ramping he did and never materialized into great work on his own. Once removed from the smack down six.


Art Barr

wow

 

[ALTRUISM]

 

[Art Barr]

Edge, I don't know how many guys could have pulled off, marrying a recently widowed Vickie to take advantage of her being GM. Grade A scumbag. Great work.

That's a story arc I need to go back and watch. I only caught bits of it here and there during my hiatus from wrestling.

save and use your time more wisely than re-watching that.


art barr

 

[boriquaking]

edge by a mile

 

[El Guapo]

Leaning towards Edge. Edge during his coked up rockstar opportunist phase was just such a scumbag . Also Orton was floundering before Edge got them to team up with each other in Rated RKO.

Although Orton probably had the best single heel moment between them (DDTing Steph and kissing her while Trips was handcuffed).

 

[BrehWyatt]

Edge. I actually wanted to see him lose and thought he was chickenshyt through and through. Felt he didn't deserve half/60 percent of the shyt he got.

I marked for heel Orton, so he probably wasn't that great of a heel. But Psycho Orton was

 

[Jmare007]

Edge no question about it. Rater R Superstar and Ultimate Opportunist Edge were either dope or funny as hell - in a good, fukkery way - depending on the occasion. Orton had like 2 interesting months as CTE Randy and the Legend Killer run had it's moments, he's not seeing Edge at all.

 

[WMG the 2nd]

I never took to the edge plays matt situation.
As matt really should have just fell back but considering the circumstance he lamed/simped/squared out. When realistically he was only a victim cause he let himself be. So, in that matt had to grow and we see the end result of that. Yet past that as far as quality of product in the lita/edge/matt angle. I felt it was all oppurtunist driven and just there. It never clicked any boxes, even given how risque it was.

As far as punk and taker, the mania match build was awe-inspiring and probably the best most striking build to a big match with a wwe flagship we will ever get.

When punk poured the ashes on him,....
It was,....ooooOHHH, TAKER GON KILL YOU!

Followed by I got to see this shyt.
In punk dispatches hardy. Punk had his thunder stole and buried and was not allowed any continuity with quality that made him look as good as he should after he put Jeff hardy out the promotion.
Punk was excellent when allowed to work and imo, he worked well when he was shackled, buried by taker or neutered from bad pairing stablewise. Outside of Daniel Bryan, punk made the best out of bullshyt he was given. Yet Bryan is the only guy I seen take anything the WWE gave him no matter how preposterous.
To see vkm's vision and actually sell it and get it phenomenally over.
Punk incomprison was actually improving before he took his ball and went home from scsa's playbook. Yet I feel maybe if his health was better. Punk could have developed even better to being able to navigate the lack of quality in most WWE programming.
As far as edge/matt/lita, I feel they never got the full potential of the angle right. Plus I feel it was just in bad taste and a bad choice in bad taste as a drawing program.


Art Barr

I think they kept dangling the main event of mania in front of him and refused to give him his shot. Punk for as petty and a$$hole persona he was, dude cared to his own detriment. But even with that against him, he had just cause at being bitter and petty because of how they would constantly use giant name to get guys over and go back to him for credible feuds and opponents for part timers only to kill him off and leave him wih nothing at the end of his feuds. Imagine what beating takers streak would have done for punk versus it did for Brock. It was huge for Brock but Brock didn’t need it. Punk or even bray Wyatt would have been cemented as the top heels in wrestling but they got gun shy.

Punk was at his best when he was heel as a angry and bitter guy who took real life gripes and put them in to angles. He could work with any face and bring them up to his level while also killing them on the mic. Nobody did more for that ryback run then punk and ryback stunk

Punk vs Rey was a throwaway feud and it worked. Cena vs punk lead to arguably the greatest match in raw history. Dude was so talented in wrestling it’s a shame they burned him out and he took his ball and left

 

[Homer Simpson]

both are trash mid carders

 

[Art Barr]

I think they kept dangling the main event of mania in front of him and refused to give him his shot. Punk for as petty and a$$hole persona he was, dude cared to his own detriment. But even with that against him, he had just cause at being bitter and petty because of how they would constantly use giant name to get guys over and go back to him for credible feuds and opponents for part timers only to kill him off and leave him wih nothing at the end of his feuds. Imagine what beating takers streak would have done for punk versus it did for Brock. It was huge for Brock but Brock didn’t need it. Punk or even bray Wyatt would have been cemented as the top heels in wrestling but they got gun shy.

Punk was at his best when he was heel as a angry and bitter guy who took real life gripes and put them in to angles. He could work with any face and bring them up to his level while also killing them on the mic. Nobody did more for that ryback run then punk and ryback stunk

Punk vs Rey was a throwaway feud and it worked. Cena vs punk lead to arguably the greatest match in raw history. Dude was so talented in wrestling it’s a shame they burned him out and he took his ball and left

The WWE feared that kid, because they don't want to show they were vulnerable.
While dually admitting and shown they were absolutely wrong.


Art Barr

 

[Hey_zeus]

 

[mrken12]

Edge gets hate on here for whatever reason, but he's one of the GOAT heels.

Miz is the only heel over the last decade to even come close to him.

This place has weird opinions sometimes. For example, the unusual hatred for Sting. Also the disrespect towards The Rock. I'm not trying to say that Edge is on their level but those are the most notable examples. Before I posted here I never saw negative comments about Edge.

 

[Daracell]

no poll??

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

That's a tough one cause they both sucked.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

fukking over Matt Hardy and it being 2005 when (they would not have integrated it into his character and made it a storyline in these p*ssy times) he did it saved Edge's career. Before that he was just a generic angry, yelling heel making weird facial expressions and pulling his hair. And he was only a heel because he got booed during his big solo face push against Evolution so they turned him and his heat dried up. I'm interested in seeing where that character was heading because it didn't look like his push was slowing down either. Dude owes Matt Hardy and his ahead of his time prototype social media whining for making his career.