Better heel: Edge or Orton?

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I know Orton is a fukkboy IRL & all, but don’t let that cloud your decision.

Who would you say was the better heel? Including all of their gimmicks.
 

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The rated r sooooooper star is second behind cm punk as best heel of the mid to late 2000s
Viper Orton when he shaved his head was his best heel run but t wasn’t fukkig with cowardly edge


The best heel of the 2000 that era was Nigel mcguinness, followed by Kevin licks blood stein.
Outside of that,...
I feel cm punk versus undertaker is up there all time as far a heel in a program all time tho.
In that though, I feel he had to be the heel because the WWE is so cliche on big is better. That of course he would be relegated to being the heel. Yet in that all time cm punk was as hof good as any socalled goat or hof heel all time. Plus he was on a tear on th MIC where he either owned or sonned WWE all time greats via vignette or actual back and forth. When he smashed on everyone from the rock to taker and Brock on the MIC.
How he owned the rock was fukk'n beautiful.
How he took it next level on taker is imo, the best vignette of all time. Where a heel took to a bf gimmick and created so much controversy. You know he pic'd an ass whoop'n on a level.
YOU JUST HAD TO WATCH THAT shyt.

that cm punk undertaker program is the stuff of legend.
Like tv, the spectacle, the happening of it occurring...it actually occurring is all time must see.


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edge is the better heel. orton is easier to hate. on the flipside edge was always a bad face while orton somehow gets over as a face without doing anything facelike
 

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The best heel of the 2000 that era was Nigel mcguinness, followed by Kevin licks blood stein.
Outside of that,...
I feel cm punk versus undertaker is up there all time as far a heel in a program all time tho.
In that though, I feel he had to be the heel because the WWE is so cliche on big is better. That of course he would be relegated to being the heel. Yet in that all time cm punk was as hof good as any socalled goat or hof heel all time. Plus he was on a tear on th MIC where he either owned or sonned WWE all time greats via vignette or actual back and forth. When he smashed on everyone from the rock to taker and Brock on the MIC.
How he owned the rock was fukk'n beautiful.
How he took it next level on taker is imo, the best vignette of all time. Where a heel took to a bf gimmick and created so much controversy. You know he pic'd an ass whoop'n on a level.
YOU JUST HAD TO WATCH THAT shyt.

that cm punk undertaker program is the stuff of legend.
Like tv, the spectacle, the happening of it occurring...it actually occurring is all time must see.


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Oh I was only talkin Wwe heels breh but yeah Nigel was on fire in those mid 2k

But yeah the first punk taker feud was incredible but him getting Jeff hardy out of the e was all time amazing heel work dude was masterful

Edge giving matt hardy the berating of his life when he came back was all time great as well underrated to me
 

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Oh I was only talkin Wwe heels breh but yeah Nigel was on fire in those mid 2k

But yeah the first punk taker feud was incredible but him getting Jeff hardy out of the e was all time amazing heel work dude was masterful

Edge giving matt hardy the berating of his life when he came back was all time great as well underrated to me


I never took to the edge plays matt situation.
As matt really should have just fell back but considering the circumstance he lamed/simped/squared out. When realistically he was only a victim cause he let himself be. So, in that matt had to grow and we see the end result of that. Yet past that as far as quality of product in the lita/edge/matt angle. I felt it was all oppurtunist driven and just there. It never clicked any boxes, even given how risque it was.

As far as punk and taker, the mania match build was awe-inspiring and probably the best most striking build to a big match with a wwe flagship we will ever get.

When punk poured the ashes on him,....
It was,....ooooOHHH, TAKER GON KILL YOU!

Followed by I got to see this shyt.
In punk dispatches hardy. Punk had his thunder stole and buried and was not allowed any continuity with quality that made him look as good as he should after he put Jeff hardy out the promotion.
Punk was excellent when allowed to work and imo, he worked well when he was shackled, buried by taker or neutered from bad pairing stablewise. Outside of Daniel Bryan, punk made the best out of bullshyt he was given. Yet Bryan is the only guy I seen take anything the WWE gave him no matter how preposterous.
To see vkm's vision and actually sell it and get it phenomenally over.
Punk incomprison was actually improving before he took his ball and went home from scsa's playbook. Yet I feel maybe if his health was better. Punk could have developed even better to being able to navigate the lack of quality in most WWE programming.
As far as edge/matt/lita, I feel they never got the full potential of the angle right. Plus I feel it was just in bad taste and a bad choice in bad taste as a drawing program.


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Randy orton one of my favorites in the ring fukk that other shyt :yeshrug:
 

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Edge gets hate on here for whatever reason, but he's one of the GOAT heels.

Miz is the only heel over the last decade to even come close to him.

Miz is one of the worst no talents ever.
He is completely protected being a WWE inhouse made performer. Watching him is exactly like watching an amateur reality tv star be gifted a place they really never earned and are really not good at, at all.
As far as edge, he was just there and his only great period inring ever.
was the ramping he did and never materialized into great work on his own. Once removed from the smack down six.


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