BET on MMS progress during his 6 week winstrol cycle (new vegas odds)

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I am not very educated on steroids and such, so I guess, do you bruh. But a lot of more informed posters seem to think its a bad idea, so :manny:

I haven't done, too much research myself, but I think there's huge gray area for growth in the steroids department.

Simple, fact is that "most" steroid users are overdosing in an attempt to double their gains. Abiding by the desire that us "natural lifters" have for putting on size / scripting. We adjust our in-take of protein, fatty foods, and carbs; meanwhile they shoot more roids They understand the consequences and still follow suit. Not mention a lot of cell tech users aren't under the supervision of a medical doctor / scientific researcher with an extensive background in biochemistry.

This leaves the door open, for individuals, who do use the correct amount under supervision.

With that said, let the games begin :popcorn:

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^^^that is exactly my opinion on the field

in all my time on the low ive rigorously looked at everything

DHT derivatives which is basically the gamut of all the steroids out there have relatively varied effects in your blood stream outside of freeing up testosterone, and most of the time these guys are just trying to increase "free test" levels as high as possible without considering the long term sides

but that isnt necessary if you are lifting properly and have adequate nutrition. Winstrol itself reduces Sex Hormone Binding Globulin(SHBG) which in terms increases current free test...Win itself does not add to that Test count(thus the common stacking with Test Prop or En)

the problem with hormone manipulation over long periods regardless what you use is that the hormones effect everything in your body not just your muscles/fat deposits and thats where most of the bad comes from. Notice how Sly Stallone's face and head grew substantially despite not being fat that HGH increased growth everywhere if you see what im saying.

knowing all that, I knew that i would never go that far. Winstrol is in a nut shell:

1)Mild test booster
2)strong diuretic
3)due to #2 promotes a hard "dry" look
4)will allow me to cut harder without losing as much muscle(aka keeping a deeper deficit without fear of muscle loss)

if done correctly and my routine stays the same i will cut the last bit of fat without losing very much muscle if at all. Follow up with an estrogen(PCT) to cause my body to start remaking lost testosterone i shouldnt miss a beat

as i said once tho the pics are shock value intended to get a reaction(and they have :obama:) but it isnt far fetched at this point that should i lose 10lbs between now and then, it MAY be dramatic. Thus me and houston creating the bet

eitherway, all of my fans and my haters should know that I have no intentions to cycle again after this, once 10%BF is reached i will be bulking naturally indefinitely the right way as ive stated in the past
 

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You aren't going to lose muscle on a cut just do strength training while you are cutting

Your just being impatient and want results tomorrow

Cut the calories and up the ante on cardio and then once you get slim just clean bulk and start repping to failure
 

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You aren't going to lose muscle on a cut just do strength training while you are cutting

Your just being impatient and want results tomorrow

Cut the calories and up the ante on cardio and then once you get slim just clean bulk and start repping to failure
i already lift 5 days a week and am cutting on a 500 cal deficit
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cardio isnt going to improve muscle sparing just increase my calorie deficit and marginally reduce water weight. Im straight with that considering i have above average diet control

but youre right, i am impatient. cause at the end of the day that was the basis for my change of heart...i live only once

and im going to enjoy every bit of my 20s, i lost a good bit of that good life due to being fat. Its not like I dont know what im doing, im just plugging the gameshark in for 6 weeks :takedat:
 

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i already lift 5 days a week and am cutting on a 500 cal deficit
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cardio isnt going to improve muscle sparing just increase my calorie deficit and marginally reduce water weight. Im straight with that considering i have above average diet control

but youre right, i am impatient. cause at the end of the day that was the basis for my change of heart...i live only once

and im going to enjoy every bit of my 20s, i lost a good bit of that good life due to being fat. Its not like I dont know what im doing, im just plugging the gameshark in for 6 weeks :takedat:

Your right you want to enjoy looking good now.

I was told steroids don't kill people it's when they mix it with massive alcohol and cocaine meth ghb and bunch of other crap.

Also your not going to be on steroids that will make you be on them for life or that will make you stop producing your own natural testosterone.

Just think it over. I know the feeling you feel like your doing everything you can and not getting to where you want to be.
 

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Your right you want to enjoy looking good now.

I was told steroids don't kill people it's when they mix it with massive alcohol and cocaine meth ghb and bunch of other crap.

Also your not going to be on steroids that will make you be on them for life or that will make you stop producing your own natural testosterone.

Just think it over. I know the feeling you feel like your doing everything you can and not getting to where you want to be.

i dont feel that way at all :manny:

i just realized the only reasons i wasnt doing it was because of pride, if i didnt feel 95% sure things would go smoothly i wouldnt have gone through with it, but the truth is everything checked out

but im no fool here, this is gonna be as exact as a true clinical trial im not drinking over the course of the 6 weeks either :merchant:
 

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sorry MM, but this shyt just left me :dead::dead::dead:

i had quadruplets, i purged the fat content of 4 zaxbys platters off my gut :takedat:

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I was told steroids don't kill people it's when they mix it with massive alcohol and cocaine meth ghb and bunch of other crap.

:clap::takedat::shaq:

Only real thing you have to worry about is inflammation of organs. I'm pretty sure MMS , has cross checked for heredity diseases in the family blood line...
 

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After careful consideration I will not be taking Winstrol

yall convinced me :wow:
 

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winny is pretty harsh on your tendons and ligaments as well.

honestly it looks like you could gain so much from a better workout/diet that i dunno if winstrol is really going to help. on top of that, you should run it with test.

but do you, you'll see some results. nowhere near those 2 dudes in 6 weeks tho.
 
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