Best Wrestler Alive Tourney 1st Round --- CM Punk vs. Scott Hall

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Cast your vote for the best wrestler alive using the following metrics

Ring work (10)
Mic work/promos (10)
Personality/gimmicks (10)
Overall rating (10)
Number of matches you like from each person

The poll closes after 7 days and if there's a tie the poll extends for an additional 24 hours

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CM Punk
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Championships and accomplishments

Independent Wrestling Association Mid-South
IWA Mid-South Heavyweight Championship (5 times)
IWA Mid-South Light Heavyweight Championship (2 times)

International Wrestling Cartel
IWC Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

Mid-American Wrestling
MAW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

NWA Cyberspace
NWA Cyberspace Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Julio Dinero

NWA Revolution
NWA Revolution Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

Ohio Valley Wrestling
OVW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
OVW Southern Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Seth Skyfire
OVW Television Championship (1 time)

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI ranked him #3 of the top 500 singles wrestlers in the PWI 500 in 2010.

Ring of Honor
ROH World Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Colt Cabana
ROH World Championship (1 time)

St. Paul Championship Wrestling
SDW Northern States Television Championship (2 times)
SPCW Northern States Light Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

World Wrestling Entertainment
ECW Championship (1 time)
World Heavyweight Championship (3 times)
WWE Championship (2 times)
World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Kofi Kingston
WWE Intercontinental Championship (1 time)
Mr. Money in the Bank (2008, 2009)
2008 Slammy Awards - "OMG" Moment of the Year Cashing in Money in the Bank to win the World Heavyweight Championship
2009 Slammy Awards - Shocker of the Year Forcing Jeff Hardy out of the WWE after Steel Cage match victory
2010 Slammy Awards - Despicable Me Award Harassing Rey Mysterio and his family
Nineteenth Triple Crown Champion

Wrestling Observer Newsletter
5 Star Match vs. Samoa Joe at ROH Joe vs. Punk II on [[October 16]], 2004
Feud of the Year (2009) vs. Jeff Hardy
Best Gimmick (2009)

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Scott Hall
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Championships and accomplishments

American Wrestling Association
AWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Curt Hennig

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI ranked him # 72 of the 500 best singles wrestlers of the PWI Years in 2003
PWI ranked him # 40 the 100 best tag teams of the PWI Years with Kevin Nash in 2003
PWI ranked him # 98 of the 100 best tag teams of the PWI Years with Curt Hennig
PWI Most Improved Award (1992)
PWI Match of the Year, vs. Shawn Michaels in a ladder match (1994)
PWI Tag Team of the Year, with Kevin Nash (1997)

Total Nonstop Action Wrestling
TNA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Kevin Nash

United States Wrestling Association
USWA Unified World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

World Championship Wrestling
WCW United States Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
WCW World Tag Team Championship (7 times) - with Kevin Nash (6), The Giant (1)
WCW World Television Championship (1 time)
WCW World War 3 Battle Royal winner (1997)

World Wrestling Council
WWC Caribbean Champion (1 time)
WWC Universal Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

World Wrestling Federation/World Wrestling Entertainment
WWF Intercontinental Championship (4 times)
WWE Hall of Fame (Class of 2014)

Wrestling Observer Newsletter
Match of the Year (1994, versus Shawn Michaels)
5-Star Match: vs. Shawn Michaels (Ladder match, WrestleMania X, March 20, 1994)

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Just like with Jeff Hardy, it's hard to say someone is the best when there are frequent discussions about wasted potential and underachieving so I'm going with Punk. :yeshrug:
 
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PYRRHUS 88 said:
Personality/gimmicks: Hall >> Punk
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I think Punk will kinda end up the KENTA of the gimmick/character game, honestly. He went through a bunch of implementations, from the loud-mouth young gun to the 'straight-edge means I'm better than you' to the cult leader to the 'voice of the voiceless' on to the 'blindingly narcissistic Best in the World' thing... dude had so many different gimmicks like that and they've all, in some way or another, been picked up and used by other people in the time sense. Seth is basically doing his messianic cult leader Nexus-era shyt right now, even while Brandi over on AEW was doing the SES thing down to the head-shaving.

I make the KENTA comparison because dude innovated all this shyt and then had pieces of his moveset plucked away and re-purposed, and people don't even get that some of their favorites are copying dude, and end up not giving him his due.

I also make the KENTA comparison because... ya know. GTS.

That being said, Hall made being the 'bad guy' cool in wrestling, and that has, for better or worse, utterly changed the way North American wrestling's trajectory has gone since. And without that, CM Punk doesn't get as far as he did. Plus, for a lot of us, that 'Hey yo' with the toothpick was our first real role model in that swag shyt.

Either way, I'm abstaining from this vote, but I'm enjoying the fukkery.
 
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Novembruh said:
I think Punk will kinda end up the KENTA of the gimmick/character game, honestly. He went through a bunch of implementations, from the loud-mouth young gun to the 'straight-edge means I'm better than you' to the cult leader to the 'voice of the voiceless' on to the 'blindingly narcissistic Best in the World' thing... dude had so many different gimmicks like that and they've all, in some way or another, been picked up and used by other people in the time sense. Seth is basically doing his messianic cult leader Nexus-era shyt right now, even while Brandi over on AEW was doing the SES thing down to the head-shaving.

I make the KENTA comparison because dude innovated all this shyt and then had pieces of his moveset plucked away and re-purposed, and people don't even get that some of their favorites are copying dude, and end up not giving him his due.

I also make the KENTA comparison because... ya know. GTS.

That being said, Hall made being the 'bad guy' cool in wrestling, and that has, for better or worse, utterly changed the way North American wrestling's trajectory has gone since. And without that, CM Punk doesn't get as far as he did. Plus, for a lot of us, that 'Hey yo' with the toothpick was our first real role model in that swag shyt.

Either way, I'm abstaining from this vote, but I'm enjoying the fukkery.
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I can agree with that. Thing is, none of those things are particularly dope to me. :ld:

Raven did the cult thing better imo, 10 years before Punk.

Punk was definitely one of the better characters of his (WOAT) era, I'll give him that.
 
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Hall.... cm punk has a woat manuver in the history of wrestling. I've seen better elbow drops from kids jumping off the arm of a couch. The desecration of macho man's legacy is enough for punk to not even be included in this tournament.

Meanwhile scott hall was swagged out. Legendary promos, legendary moves, legendary matches. Played his character so well there are people who still believe he is Hispanic to this day.

The fact that he is the personification of wasted potential and is still leagues above punk says alot.. 1st round match should've been Jeff Hardy vs Scott Hall lol
 
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Razor. He has one of the illest chokeslams. Plus his finisher was never stolen from NJPW.

CM Punk is dope but not better than Hall.
 
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Razor. He has one of the illest chokeslams. Plus his finisher was never stolen from NJPW.

CM Punk is dope but not better than Hall.
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Well... Technically the GTS(G2S) was stolen from NOAH. Which was like... Japan's ROH. Which kinda makes all the sense in the world, if you think about it :ohhh:
 
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