Bernie Sanders teaming up Public Enemy March 1st in LA

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

I’m not for any artist coming out and directly campaigning for a political candidate.

Especially in this age of pandering...

and when I see shyt like this, it makes me think people are trying to get your votes based on something that has little to do with politics.

even if public enemy is a political musical group, the two shouldn’t share spaces.

 

[FAH1223]

I fukks with Chuck D and public enemy but all this Bernie support amongst black people got me


I really don’t think Bernie gives a flying fukk about black people any more than any other white candidate.

I'd say he does. Him and Warren easily.

 

[FAH1223]

I’m not for any artist coming out and directly campaigning for a political candidate.

Especially in this age of pandering...

and when I see shyt like this, it makes me think people are trying to get your votes based on something that has little to do with politics.

even if public enemy is a political musical group, the two shouldn’t share spaces.

Artists have been campaigning for political candidates since forever

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

I thought my grandmama was lying when she told me this

Artists have been campaigning for political candidates since forever

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

Artists have been campaigning for political candidates since forever

That doesn’t mean I have to like it, or that it’s right either.

the political arena should be devoid of as many alternate influences as possible. Should just be the ideas and that’s it. All this other shyt is why things are fukked up as they are.

Social movements, however, can be different. That what I think they’re trying to do with his campaign, but I don’t trust it because, at the end of the day, him being president means he still has to adhere to rules within something already established.

And, the American way of government, laws, structure is fukked. I don’t trust it. Or the people that support it.

it goes hand and hand, an artist being used for promotional purposes, that has made it “big” reinforcing a system that doesn’t help.

social movements are much more appealing to me, at the moment. They rise out of a direct need and fight. Political changes are due, by law, every so often.

 

[SunZoo]

I fukks with Chuck D and public enemy but all this Bernie support amongst black people got me


I really don’t think Bernie gives a flying fukk about black people any more than any other white candidate.

Aside from the fact that his policies benefit black people the most, he has the trust of his supporters, black ones in particular because he has a proven track record of being down with civil rights and social justice moments before it was popular to do. When some of the other leading candidates were either republicans or worried about their children having to grow up an a desegregated "racial jungle" he was active in the civil rights movement and trying to get Jesse Jackson elected.




Anybody valuing Steyer's or anyone else's 'black' rhetoric over that is proving to democrats that they really want to be pandered to and pat on the head more than they actually want shyt to change.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

A Get up and get-get get down
Our current healthcare is a joke in your town

 

[SunZoo]

I’m not for any artist coming out and directly campaigning for a political candidate.

Especially in this age of pandering...

and when I see shyt like this, it makes me think people are trying to get your votes based on something that has little to do with politics.

even if public enemy is a political musical group, the two shouldn’t share spaces.

They most certainly should in this instance. Not only because of who they are, but as a reminder of the part Hip Hop has and can play going forward in bringing people together to help create solidarity for the things that Bernie is running on.

He's dope to me, but it ain't about HIM as a person, it's about the issues. If you removed his name from the equation and just asked how people feel about the issues his agenda would be more popular than it is. And it's why getting groups like PE and rappers like Killer Mike can be important, because this movement that is showing up for each other for basic human decency needs to stay together long after Bernie is dead and gone in order to be effective.

 

[FAH1223]

That doesn’t mean I have to like it, or that it’s right either.

the political arena should be devoid of as many alternate influences as possible. Should just be the ideas and that’s it. All this other shyt is why things are fukked up as they are.

Social movements, however, can be different. That what I think they’re trying to do with his campaign, but I don’t trust it because, at the end of the day, him being president means he still has to adhere to rules within something already established.

And, the American way of government, laws, structure is fukked. I don’t trust it. Or the people that support it.

it goes hand and hand, an artist being used for promotional purposes, that has made it “big” reinforcing a system that doesn’t help.

social movements are much more appealing to me, at the moment. They rise out of a direct need and fight. Political changes are due, by law, every so often.

You are right that the presidency has rules and constraints. Only so much one can do with executive power.

However, the presidency is a giant platform.

Sanders is part of a movement. Its a movement that's been going on and festering since the aftermath of the financial crisis, Obama's election, Occupy Wall Street, etc.

His theory of the case which may not work of course is that you can be the organizer in chief and foster the movement to enact change through the legislative process by putting pressure on politicians in Congress to get agenda items passed and overcome the special interests.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

They most certainly should in this instance. Not only because of who they are, but as a reminder of the part Hip Hop has and can play going forward in bringing people together so they can't find solidarity for the things that Bernie is running on.

He's dope to me, but it ain't about HIM as a person, it's about the issues, if you removed his name the debates and just asked how people feel about the issues his agenda would be more popular than it is. And it's why getting groups like PE and rappers like Killer Mike can be important, because this movement that is showing up for each other for basic human decency needs to stay together long after Bernie is dead and gone in order to be effective.

Read my next comment and you’ll understand.

it’s really political movement vs social movements.

people are conflating the two because Bernie has been on both sides of it

anyone that enters into US political structures, I don’t trust because they have their own set of rules to adhere to and doing what the people want them to do isn’t in the agenda

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

You are right that the presidency has rules and constraints. Only so much one can do with executive power.

However, the presidency is a giant platform.

Sanders is part of a movement. Its a movement that's been going on and festering since the aftermath of the financial crisis, Obama's election, Occupy Wall Street, etc.

His theory of the case which may not work of course is that you can be the organizer in chief and foster the movement to enact change through the legislative process by putting pressure on politicians in Congress to get agenda items passed and overcome the special interests.

Sanders has been around since civil right era. He’s not growing anymore, if anything he’ll die soon.

you can be very influential, especially in America, without stepping foot in Congress or the White House. When you do, you’ve got those bureaucrats to deal with...

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The new generation ain't listening to Public Enemy


Coming up next Bernie Sanders is going to be in Atlanta and tell the young generation to "Shake that Ballet Like A Salt Shaker" and vote the Yang Yang Twins


Then Bernie is going the shake up Houston and Tell Trump "Game Over" with guest LiL Flip

Public Enemy has an actual message that aligns with his message. Bernie's been collaborating with multiple socially conscious rappers since 2016. Who is the "new generation" listening to in that lane? It's not like John McCain randomly bringing fukking Pitbull up on stage solely because he was hot at the time. Were you more excited about the 15 minute Cardi B interview that Bernie did, was that your style?

 

[SunZoo]

That doesn’t mean I have to like it, or that it’s right either.

the political arena should be devoid of as many alternate influences as possible. Should just be the ideas and that’s it. All this other shyt is why things are fukked up as they are.

Social movements, however, can be different. That what I think they’re trying to do with his campaign, but I don’t trust it because, at the end of the day, him being president means he still has to adhere to rules within something already established.

And, the American way of government, laws, structure is fukked. I don’t trust it. Or the people that support it.

it goes hand and hand, an artist being used for promotional purposes, that has made it “big” reinforcing a system that doesn’t help.

social movements are much more appealing to me, at the moment. They rise out of a direct need and fight. Political changes are due, by law, every so often.

They aren't trying to build a social movement with his campaign...that's exactly what had to be done to get him into a position to run away with the nomination against the will of the establishment. I honestly don't see how, or why you would try to separate social movements from politics when logically, and historically it's really the only way to get politicians to make moves toward your betterment.

And as far as him being president...his campaign slogan is "Not Me, Us", as in, he is letting the people behind him know, this is not about his political capital, it's about creating a coalition of people that can wield enough political power to actually stand up to the control system while also having someone in the white house who will actually stand up to corporations with them.

And being that he is clearly in the last quarter of his life, it's a movement that he understands is going to have to continue after he's dead and gone in order for it to mean anything, it can't just stop at a political campaign.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Boots Riley of The Coup is also openly supporting Bernie Sanders, and he has never promoted voting as a means for structural change. And that brother is easily the most notable communist in hip-hop. Been in the game longer than Immortal Technique and dead prez combined.

I couldn't be happier seeing Public Enemy and Boots on board with Bernie in 2020. This is really inspiring shyt that they recognize the opportunity we have at hand here with getting this man in the white house and on the road to transforming this society.

#NotMeUs

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I fukks with Chuck D and public enemy but all this Bernie support amongst black people got me


I really don’t think Bernie gives a flying fukk about black people any more than any other white candidate.

He's been talking about mass incarceration and the black-white wealth gap for 50 years, not even mentioning getting arrested during the CRA and endorsing Jesse Jackson and shyt. What could he do that would prove to you he fukked with Black folk that wouldn't immediately render him unelectable in the actual vote?


Check out this interviewer trying to trap him on a busing question, Bernie hits back remembering his entire quote from 1972 and then schools the interviewer on Black issues. He's reeling that shyt off the top of his head, he clearly fukks with that agenda.





Or this ad. What other candidate would give a Black woman, especially one who was just an activist, this much time to share her story and what she's about? What other candidate would quote fukking MALCOLM X in a positive way in a campaign ad?