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Do you think genocide is bad or not? If you think it's morally reprehensible, then why are you voting for a candidate that's abetting genocide, thereby personally making you complicit in genocide?

We're already "complicit in genocide" via the taxes we pay and the goods and services we use, per your reasoning. The only way I can have "clean hands" is to renounce my American citizenship and move elsewhere.

If you think voting is the only way we become guilty by association, you're being disingenuous. The "morality" of America's government has nothing to do with my personal morals.

I'm voting to keep an autocrat out of office. If the situation/policy won't change no matter who gets in office, then I'll vote for Kamala Harris (which I already have) and sleep good at night.
 

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We're already "complicit in genocide" via the taxes we pay and the goods and services we use, per your reasoning. The only way I can have "clean hands" is to renounce my American citizenship and move elsewhere.

If you think voting is the only way we become guilty by association, you're being disingenuous. The "morality" of America's government has nothing to do with my personal morals.

I'm voting to keep an autocrat out of office. If the situation/policy won't change no matter who gets in office, then I'll vote for Kamala Harris (which I already have) and sleep good at night.

No one is questioning your vote. I'm not at least.

As long as that grace goes the other way then we're good. If someone decides to abstain or vote for Trump, the other side didn't do their job.
 

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“World citizen”

“Returned home”

Can’t live in the suburbs but claim the hood. :mjgrin:

US President Joe Biden has declared "I'm at home" as he made an historic address to the Irish Parliament.

Mr Biden said he has returned to his ancestral home and his only wish was that he could stay longer.

In his speech to a joint sitting of the Oireachtas (both houses of the Irish parliament), he spoke of his pride in his Irish roots and support for the peace process in Northern Ireland.

"People of Ireland, it's so good to be back in Ireland," he told the Oireachtas, making a remark in Irish which translated as: "I am home."


I'd probably kill myself if I had a "human" child as retarded as you are :dead:
 

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No one is questioning your vote. I'm not at least.

As long as that grace goes the other way then we're good. If someone decides to abstain or vote for Trump, then they're complicit in supporting a racist, regressive autocratic regime that seeks to give trillions in tax breaks to the top 1%, restrict healthcare access nationwide, roll back LGBTQ rights, gut voting rights, and be favorable to foreign dictators like Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-Un, and Viktor Orban.

Fixed. :unimpressed:
 

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Not always. Especially if one side is engaging in voter suppression tactics like Trump was/is.

That was the case in 2016 with Hillary, IMO.

:mjlol:

That was not the case with Hillary in 2016. She lost that election because despite coming in with overwhelming advantages, she got careless and ignored the Midwest. A decent candidate would have flattened Trump in 2016 and took the wind out of the MAGA movement's sails.

But now I get why you see things the way you do. If you don't believe the losing candidate isn't primarily at fault for losing then of course voters are the villains, that's the logical conclusion. The Democrats can blame the Supreme Court, voter suppression, swiftboats, stupid voters... Instead of figuring out why they can't mobilize enough voters to make the Republicans irrelevant despite the electoral map.
 

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We're already "complicit in genocide" via the taxes we pay and the goods and services we use, per your reasoning. The only way I can have "clean hands" is to renounce my American citizenship and move elsewhere.

If you think voting is the only way we become guilty by association, you're being disingenuous. The "morality" of America's government has nothing to do with my personal morals.

I'm voting to keep an autocrat out of office. If the situation/policy won't change no matter who gets in office, then I'll vote for Kamala Harris (which I already have) and sleep good at night.

Then why do you demonize Trump supporters? You don’t think who you vote for reflects and entrenches your immorality?

Throw this whole post away!
:mjlol:
 

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That was not the case with Hillary in 2016. She lost that election because despite coming in with overwhelming advantages, she got careless and ignored the Midwest. A decent candidate would have flattened Trump in 2016 and took the wind out of the MAGA movement's sails.

So you're saying that she...didn't do enough to win? :unimpressed:

But now I get why you see things the way you do. If you don't believe the losing candidate isn't primarily at fault for losing then of course voters are the villains, that's the logical conclusion.

Actually, it's multiple factors. Voters are a part of it.

We know that Trump engaged in several voter suppression tactics in key states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Arizona. Half of his pending court cases are results of that. I wouldn't just brush this aside.

Hillary and the DNC wasn't attentive to the movement Trump was building and ran a run-of-the-mill campaign in 2016. Referring to Trump's base as a "basket of deplorables" would have received little attention in a normal campaign, but her going against a demagogue with a [then] growing cult of personality made it a costly mistake.
 

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Simply not voting isn't doing anything, nor is it making you a moral person either. You are complicit through your tax dollars, through your purchases of material goods, through your use of the internet/paying bills. You have contributed to multiple countries being exploited, contributed to good leaders being killed, and contributed to mass death campaigns.

But, "I didn't vote so my hands are clean." Those hands aren't clean. You're actually worse because you believe that by not voting you are somehow making yourself moral or washing your hands of it all. That's delusion.

If someone gave you $1,000 you would thank them instead of telling them to keep their blood money.

@Nkrumah Was Right ain't moving back to Kenya
You not leaving the U.S. either. Y'all gonna stay in the West and continue reaping the benefits of exploitation all the while finger wagging.

:scust:
That's exactly why I'm like we as Americans are fukked up individuals and when our time comes for defeat, we deserved it :manny:

shyt is fukked up and honestly we as humans should be able to have peace and not still have archaic mindset like our predecessors of antiquity humanity
 

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Jan. 6th; as well as being sh*tty, hateful, selfish people. :unimpressed:



I'm saying that your focus on voting alone as a statement of "aiding genocide" is disingenuous (at best).

So not only do you concede that you're a hypocrite, but also that you're deeply immoral and a genocidaire.

Got it.
:unimpressed:
 
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