Bernie needs to connect with black voters. Here’s how that’s going.

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Bernie needs to connect with black voters. Here’s how that’s going.
Bernie needs to connect with black voters. Here's how that's going.

By Evan McMorris-Santoro and Alex Lubben Apr 26, 2019

HOUSTON — Bernie Sanders really wants to connect with black women voters. But at a conference here earlier this week, he was barely able to say he was at the March on Washington in 1963 before the groans started.

The crowd at "She the People," touted as the first policy forum specifically for women of color in politics, wasn’t impressed.

“He brought up marching with Martin Luther King and working on Jesse Jackson’s campaign, and I’m like, ‘It’s 2019, what are you doing now, today?’” Lashelle Scott, 43, a Democratic precinct chairwoman, told VICE News.


Democrats know they need back women to turn out in 2020 if they expect to win back the White House. But no one currently running for president — except maybe Joe Biden — has any track record of doing that. That’s why eight Democratic candidates showed up in Houston to give town hall–like interviews.

Who did the worst? In our informal poll of three, it was unanimous: Bernie. “I don’t know why he was screaming,” Debra Jones, 62, a retired factory supervisor, said. “He was frustrated,” Scott added.

So who do they like? That was unanimous too: Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

“Elizabeth Warren wants to give us a planned text on how she plans to implement free college,” Johnson said. “However, with Bernie he just says, ‘We’ll give you free college, but don’t worry about the plan right now.’”

Sanders has struggled with winning over people of color in 2016. He had a rally that was protested by Black Lives Matter activists. And Hillary Clinton swept up 86 percent of the black vote in the primaries.

But his base is already more diverse this time around. A poll from March showed that Sanders has twice as much support among black voters as Sen. Kamala Harris does.

As for Joe Biden, who made his presidential campaign official on Thursday but wasn’t at She the People? “Joe would really have to bring it,” Scott said, in order to convince them that he’s a more compelling candidate than Warren.



This segment originally aired April 25, 2019, on VICE News Tonight on HBO.

Bernie needs to connect with black voters. Here's how that's going.


Good job Bernie. Way to utterly fail again.

Does he really think yelling and mansplaining is a viable way of conveying his message?

What an amateur

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Elizabeth Warren wants to give us a planned text on how she plans to implement free college,” Johnson said. “However, with Bernie he just says, ‘We’ll give you free college, but don’t worry about the plan right now.’”

Exactly how I feel...yet Bernie bros continuously dismiss this reason for people fukking with Warren and not him. “Bu bu but, they represent the same ideals!”

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Exactly how I feel...yet Bernie bros continuously dismiss this reason for people fukking with Warren and not him. “Bu bu but, they represent the same ideals!”

:rolleyes:

Spot on. Bernie is the "policy guy" without any policy. It's like people have forgotten the dumpster fire of a campaign he ran last election. I don't know why people continue to fall for his nonsense.

Worst of all he's had years or what a decade to be able to really figure out his policies. Bernie's whole folksy, lets get there first hand waving charade is frankly insulting.
 

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Bernie needs to connect with black voters. Here’s how that’s going.
Bernie needs to connect with black voters. Here's how that's going.

By Evan McMorris-Santoro and Alex Lubben Apr 26, 2019

HOUSTON — Bernie Sanders really wants to connect with black women voters. But at a conference here earlier this week, he was barely able to say he was at the March on Washington in 1963 before the groans started.

The crowd at "She the People," touted as the first policy forum specifically for women of color in politics, wasn’t impressed.

“He brought up marching with Martin Luther King and working on Jesse Jackson’s campaign, and I’m like, ‘It’s 2019, what are you doing now, today?’” Lashelle Scott, 43, a Democratic precinct chairwoman, told VICE News.


Democrats know they need back women to turn out in 2020 if they expect to win back the White House. But no one currently running for president — except maybe Joe Biden — has any track record of doing that. That’s why eight Democratic candidates showed up in Houston to give town hall–like interviews.

Who did the worst? In our informal poll of three, it was unanimous: Bernie. “I don’t know why he was screaming,” Debra Jones, 62, a retired factory supervisor, said. “He was frustrated,” Scott added.

So who do they like? That was unanimous too: Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

“Elizabeth Warren wants to give us a planned text on how she plans to implement free college,” Johnson said. “However, with Bernie he just says, ‘We’ll give you free college, but don’t worry about the plan right now.’”

Sanders has struggled with winning over people of color in 2016. He had a rally that was protested by Black Lives Matter activists. And Hillary Clinton swept up 86 percent of the black vote in the primaries.

But his base is already more diverse this time around. A poll from March showed that Sanders has twice as much support among black voters as Sen. Kamala Harris does.

As for Joe Biden, who made his presidential campaign official on Thursday but wasn’t at She the People? “Joe would really have to bring it,” Scott said, in order to convince them that he’s a more compelling candidate than Warren.



This segment originally aired April 25, 2019, on VICE News Tonight on HBO.

Bernie needs to connect with black voters. Here's how that's going.


Good job Bernie. Way to utterly fail again.

Does he really think yelling and mansplaining is a viable way of conveying his message?

What an amateur

:salute:

did you really just use the term mansplaining ? no wonder youre a centrist :mjlol:
 

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Que Bernie bros reminding us he walked with Martin like that means anything

If he didn't say that, the narrative would be, "He's an old White guy, look at the generation he grew up in, he's got to be racist like the rest of them."

The fact that he was willing to defy White supremacy and march with King in the early 1960s shows that he wasn't just some liberal who moved towards civil rights when it was politically convenient. And it wasn't like he just marched once - he was the chair of his university's chapter of CORE, he led their CORE chapter to mere with SNCC, he participated in a multi-week sit-in at the university of chicago that successfully forced them to end their segregated housing policy, he was leading campaigns against police brutality, and he was charged with resisting arrest during an anti-segregation demonstration.

Compare that to Hillary Clinton, who was campaigning for Barry Goldwater at the same time.

It isn't the end of the discussion, but it's a good beginning. He was an ally when being an ally wasn't politically convenient. He was an ally long before being an ally was necessary to get votes.
 

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If he didn't say that, the narrative would be, "He's an old White guy, look at the generation he grew up in, he's got to be racist like the rest of them."

The fact that he was willing to defy White supremacy and march with King in the early 1960s shows that he wasn't just some liberal who moved towards civil rights when it was politically convenient. And it wasn't like he just marched once - he was the chair of his university's chapter of CORE, he led their CORE chapter to mere with SNCC, he participated in a multi-week sit-in at the university of chicago that successfully forced them to end their segregated housing policy, he was leading campaigns against police brutality, and he was charged with resisting arrest during an anti-segregation demonstration.

Compare that to Hillary Clinton, who was campaigning for Barry Goldwater at the same time.

It isn't the end of the discussion, but it's a good beginning. He was an ally when being an ally wasn't politically convenient. He was an ally long before being an ally was necessary to get votes.
its crazy to me that all that is somehow looked at as a negative to the blue check crowd but hilary can say hot sauce in my bag and its fine
 

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If he didn't say that, the narrative would be, "He's an old White guy, look at the generation he grew up in, he's got to be racist like the rest of them."

The fact that he was willing to defy White supremacy and march with King in the early 1960s shows that he wasn't just some liberal who moved towards civil rights when it was politically convenient. And it wasn't like he just marched once - he was the chair of his university's chapter of CORE, he led their CORE chapter to mere with SNCC, he participated in a multi-week sit-in at the university of chicago that successfully forced them to end their segregated housing policy, he was leading campaigns against police brutality, and he was charged with resisting arrest during an anti-segregation demonstration.

Compare that to Hillary Clinton, who was campaigning for Barry Goldwater at the same time.

It isn't the end of the discussion, but it's a good beginning. He was an ally when being an ally wasn't politically convenient. He was an ally long before being an ally was necessary to get votes.

Not the best argument I have ever heard you make tbh. Using that argument one could say trust the GOP because they abolished slavery. Bernie has often had a one size fits all approach to politics that isn't translated in the real world. Liz Warren adjusted and took up well thought out, explained nuanced positions. Bernie feels like he just keeps giving more of the same. I may be wrong, but that's how I see it based on what I read and see.
 

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Not the best argument I have ever heard you make tbh. Using that argument one could say trust the GOP because they abolished slavery. Bernie has often had a one size fits all approach to politics that isn't translated in the real world. Liz Warren adjusted and took up well thought out, explained nuanced positions. Bernie feels like he just keeps giving more of the same. I may be wrong, but that's how I see it based on what I read and see.
but the republican party is not the same, it changed, its not like they still have lincoln over there or smthg.its different people. bad analogy, i dont mind voting liz though if thats your choice. as long as it isnt a centrist lol
 

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but the republican party is not the same, it changed, its not like they still have lincoln over there or smthg.its different people. bad analogy, i dont mind voting liz though if thats your choice. as long as it isnt a centrist lol

Not a bad analogy, as the argument I responded to implied that Hillary didn't change, or because of the way she started she should be trusted less that Bernie. A lot of black women would disagree with that argument.
 

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Not a bad analogy, as the argument I responded to implied that Hillary didn't change, or because of the way she started she should be trusted less that Bernie. A lot of black women would disagree with that argument.
but what has she ever done? how did she change? when did she fight for anyone other than elites? she may not have been openly as racist but it was until very recently.
 
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