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The Infamous & OB4CL only got 4.5 mics as well. The Source was def buggin after giving albums like One For All and De La Soul Is Dead 5 Mics :comeon:

One For All is forever a 5 mic album though, bro.

That staff wasn't even the same by '95. So those missing 1/2 mics came from a completely different set of fools. Ready to Die got 4 1/2 too. It was what they did back then. I'm more confused by Dah Shinin' getting THREE mics in '95. That was a damn travesty.
 

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One For All is forever a 5 mic album though, bro.

That staff wasn't even the same by '95. So those missing 1/2 mics came from a completely different set of fools. Ready to Die got 4 1/2 too. It was what they did back then. I'm more confused by Dah Shinin' getting THREE mics in '95. That was a damn travesty.
Yeah, my bad. Wasn’t insinuating that the album isn’t worthy of 5 MICs. Just that albums even more revered only getting 4.5 Mics was a shame but just shows how hard it was to get that 5 mics! Didn’t Liquid Swords only get 4 Mics?
 

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Yeah, my bad. Wasn’t insinuating that the album isn’t worthy of 5 MICs. Just that albums even more revered only getting 4.5 Mics was a shame but just shows how hard it was to get that 5 mics! Didn’t Liquid Swords only get 4 Mics?

Yeah, Liquid Swords got 4.

But I can see why. It was way ahead of its time. Back then, people didn't speak about it, the way they do now. The Infamous and OB4CL were instant classics that you couldn't escape. Those two projects were everywhere and flawless front to back. Liquid Swords dropped during a time when a million other classics did, and it was always like an acquired taste back then. I was a RZA junkie, so I loved it, but everyone wasn't on it like they were the other classics in '95. Years later, it seemed that people went back and started to appreciate it more.
 

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Yeah, Liquid Swords got 4.

But I can see why. It was way ahead of its time. Back then, people didn't speak about it, the way they do now. The Infamous and OB4CL were instant classics that you couldn't escape. Those two projects were everywhere and flawless front to back. Liquid Swords dropped during a time when a million other classics did, and it was always like an acquired taste back then. I was a RZA junkie, so I loved it, but everyone wasn't on it like they were the other classics in '95. Years later, it seemed that people went back and started to appreciate it more.
LS got major love from day one, it just wasn't the gangsta/mafioso/street favorite like OB4CL. 4th Chamber and Shadowboxong were killing The Box and video shows. LS went gold fairly quickly (plat now), especially for an album with ZERO radio records, and an MC people claim lack "charisma/it factor" (I don't agree, but that's a whole other thread). 4 was an insult.
 

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LS got major love from day one, it just wasn't the gangsta/mafioso/street favorite like OB4CL. 4th Chamber and Shadowboxong were killing The Box and video shows. LS went gold fairly quickly (plat now), especially for an album with ZERO radio records, and an MC people claim lack "charisma/it factor" (I don't agree, but that's a whole other thread). 4 was an insult.

GZA complained that he wasn't being shown the love by Geffen back then. And I agree. His sh*t wasn't even promoted. We were kids at the time, so we were marketed to by Loud and Def Jam. Their artists were on TV all day long. So The Infamous and OB4CL were embraced by mad different generations, back then. Radio was playing both albums 24/7. People around the way were doing the same, blasting them from cars, ball tournaments, etc. GZA wasn't getting that kind of exposure at the time.

As far as sales, RZA said it took Liquid Swords 20 years to go platinum. Which also made sense because I didn't know a lot of people who bought it back then. They were buying all the other sh*t though. And this is in NYC. I was the only one I knew who actually paid for it. Everyone else was dubbing, lol. People slept on it. Even today, RZA said he felt like it got overlooked. It didn't have the hype or fanfare that we saw with the other joints, even though it was wild classic and high quality.
 

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GZA complained that he wasn't being shown the love by Geffen back then. And I agree. His sh*t wasn't even promoted. We were kids at the time, so we were marketed to by Loud and Def Jam. Their artists were on TV all day long. So The Infamous and OB4CL were embraced by mad different generations, back then. Radio was playing both albums 24/7. People around the way were doing the same, blasting them from cars, ball tournaments, etc. GZA wasn't getting that kind of exposure at the time.

As far as sales, RZA said it took Liquid Swords 20 years to go platinum. Which also made sense because I didn't know a lot of people who bought it back then. They were buying all the other sh*t though. And this is in NYC. I was the only one I knew who actually paid for it. Everyone else was dubbing, lol. People slept on it. Even today, RZA said he felt like it got overlooked. It didn't have the hype or fanfare that we saw with the other joints, even though it was wild classic and high quality.


If not for labels egen it was a single appearing in the source.

It arguably had no other pr outlet at the time.

Plus album wise it was probably the most sneaky release.
to drop by core wu members. That la the dark man being the sneakiest wu release.
of any wu affiliate may have had more pr. When neither had much of anything pr wise on release.


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