Beanie Sigel Responds To Dame Dash Saying Jay-Z Ruined His Life & Being Hurt He Chose Jay-Z Over Him

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Beans shouldn’t have signed back with Jay…

He should have went independent at least.
The Solution didn’t seem like a good album coming 2 years later the release of B. Coming.


Nikka should have been down South
 

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The elephant in the room for discussions of this era is the rap game was doing a 180. Kanye beat 50 and the south started taking over. There is no scenario where Beans was gonna thrive

Having the same discussion in that Jim jones thread. Nggas coming from who knows where :mjpls:applying debate tropes without a lick of context. It’d be like looking at sports attendance figures from 2020–2022 and not mentioning the pandemic
 

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The elephant in the room for discussions of this era is the rap game was doing a 180. Kanye beat 50 and the south started taking over. There is no scenario where Beans was gonna thrive

Having the same discussion in that Jim jones thread. Nggas coming from who knows where :mjpls:applying debate tropes without a lick of context. It’d be like looking at sports attendance figures from 2020–2022 and not mentioning the pandemic

Beans could still kill a verse back then…


Down South is where the business was at. There’s a reason why Jada and Fat Joe were building with Khaled.


Beans had a song on the first DJ Khaled CD from Summer 2006 iirc.

Kanye beating 50 was a win for the squares in Hip Hop but over time, the game became weird..
 

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The elephant in the room for discussions of this era is the rap game was doing a 180. Kanye beat 50 and the south started taking over. There is no scenario where Beans was gonna thrive

Having the same discussion in that Jim jones thread. Nggas coming from who knows where :mjpls:applying debate tropes without a lick of context. It’d be like looking at sports attendance figures from 2020–2022 and not mentioning the pandemic


50 was washed-up. He used the Kanye battle to save his album from flopping. Yall be acting like Kanye outsold GRODT. 😆

The south was selling more records in prior years.
 

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50 was washed-up. He used the Kanye battle to save his album from flopping. Yall be acting like Kanye outsold GRODT. 😆

The south was selling more records in prior years.

:what:

You do know you don’t HAVE to argue right. None of this disputes my point.

Also do you know how tenses work. The south ‘was taking’, means it was an ongoing processs. It lasted many years, and Beans’ attempted comeback was within that period
 

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:what:

You do know you don’t HAVE to argue right. None of this disputes my point.

Also do you know how tenses work. The south ‘was taking’, means it was an ongoing processs. It lasted many years, and Beans’ attempted comeback was within that period

Then why bring it up? Yall be acting like it was some sort of historical feat and trying to push this narrative thst kane killed hardcore hip-hop. Lol.. 50 was washed, and he basically doubled his sales with the Kanye sakes battle gimmick.

Most of that late-00s south stuff wasn't selling, and the industry was pushing it heavy on purpose. But that's a conversation for another time.

bottom line, Beans didn't get any promotion, just like everybody else that dropped on rocafella after dame left, aside from Jay & kanye.

East coast rap wasnt dead like you're claiming it to be. Rocafella is what died, once dame left.all this other stuff you're bringing up is neither here nor there. The south, the east, the nerds, all of this stuff can co-exist if given a proper platform. Hip-hop is not a monolith. Beans was getting plaques in the no limit/cash money era where the south sold a helluva lot more records.

And low-key, Beans album stunk anyway. That freeway album was excellent tho. It went to waste.
 

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Then why bring it up? Yall be acting like it was some sort of historical feat and trying to push this narrative thst kane killed hardcore hip-hop. Lol.. 50 was washed, and he basically doubled his sales with the Kanye sakes battle gimmick.

Most of that late-00s south stuff wasn't selling, and the industry was pushing it heavy on purpose. But that's a conversation for another time.

bottom line, Beans didn't get any promotion, just like everybody else that dropped on rocafella after dame left, aside from Jay & kanye.

East coast rap wasnt dead like you're claiming it to be. Rocafella is what died, once dame left.all this other stuff you're bringing up is neither here nor there. The south, the east, the nerds, all of this stuff can co-exist if given a proper platform. Hip-hop is not a monolith. Beans was getting plaques in the no limit/cash money era where the south sold a helluva lot more records.

And low-key, Beans album stunk anyway. That freeway album was excellent tho. It went to waste.

Perfect segue; I was gonna mention the freeway album bc it destroys your argument

An album co-produced by jay z and 50 cent. A jay feature, a 50 feature, Rick ross, marsha ambrosius, busta rhymes, Scarface, jadaksis….and it did nothing.

You answered why without knowing it. ‘They didn’t promote it’. Yea you’re almost there, they didn’t promote it bc it wouldn’t sell! That genre of rap was dead. I didn’t say east coast rap died. Street based authentic rap died. If you were there you would remember plenty of rappers got caught in the middle of that. Papoose and Saigon come to mind. In any other era they blow. But their style became outdated

Also listen to what you’re saying. So 50 cent was washed and outdated but you’re expecting Freeway, beans and Peedi crack to sell :what:

Lastly you’re speaking in circles about the south. If you can’t differentiate between the no limit era rap game vs the post 2000s era rap game we can end this here
 
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