Bautista to Marvel “Re-Hire James Gunn or Cancel My Contrak” |UPDATE: Pedo Gunn Re-Hired for GOTG 3

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So the photo is of adults in costume, making fun of pedo clowns and priests.....that's it?


Gotta go with Dave on this one, a lot of you are reaching. Or you just want to grab a pitchfork for digital likes on a forum.
Making fun of or emulating?
Is saying your a pedo multiple times on Twitter in a joky manner making fun of them or emulating them?

Disney is specifically aimed at children, joking about the worst crime you can commit against them is bad for the company's image. Why wait for the already exposed smoke to lead to fire? It's smart to be proactive.
James Gunn I'm sure made 7 figures plus working for Disney he will be fine. Why cry over him losing a job? There are other jobs.
 

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Making fun of or emulating?
Is saying your a pedo multiple times on Twitter in a joky manner making fun of them or emulating them?

Disney is specifically aimed at children, joking about the worst crime you can commit against them is bad for the company's image. Why wait for the already exposed smoke to lead to fire? It's smart to be proactive.
James Gunn I'm sure made 7 figures plus working for Disney he will be fine. Why cry over him losing a job? There are other jobs.


And yet George Carlin was Mr. Conductor, Eddie Murphy was both Mushu and Donkey, and Robin Williams played Genie. All made gay/pedo jokes, Disney had no problem then. They're only riding the PC bandwagon.


Again, he (Gunn) clearly stated that it was "bad" humor. Emulating is a reach. If we see some actual evidence, I'm down with the pitchfork mob, till then, relax, and keep in mind, its America, innocent till proven guilty...even if you have a huge authority complex.
 

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And yet George Carlin was Mr. Conductor, Eddie Murphy was both Mushu and Donkey, and Robin Williams played Genie. All made gay/pedo jokes, Disney had no problem then. They're only riding the PC bandwagon.


Again, he (Gunn) clearly stated that it was "bad" humor. Emulating is a reach. If we see some actual evidence, I'm down with the pitchfork mob, till then, relax, and keep in mind, its America, innocent till proven guilty...even if you have a huge authority complex.
If you want to say it's hypocritical I can buy that. Still it is the right thing to do and the PC thing isn't a bandwagon it's the corporate culture now.
Innocent until proven guilty is a legal thing not something used in corporate human resources. People lose their jobs for all kinds of reasons and sometines for absolutely no reason other than financial cutbacks. Deserves got nothing to do with it.
Let's say evidence does come out. Would Disney look better if they fired him before or after that?
 

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If you want to say it's hypocritical I can buy that. Still it is the right thing to do and the PC thing isn't a bandwagon it's the corporate culture now.
Innocent until proven guilty is a legal thing not something used in corporate human resources. People lose their jobs for all kinds of reasons and sometines for absolutely no reason other than financial cutbacks. Deserves got nothing to do with it.
Let's say evidence does come out. Would Disney look better if they fired him before or after that?

I wasn't discussing right or wrong, don't move the goal posts. My point was that he hasn't done anything in the realm of actual pedophilia. And firing someone over "tasteless" and innocuous photos is ridiculous. Yes its the current era, still doesn't make it any less ignorant from Disney. Hypocritical? Of course, this was and still is, a company with actual pedo's working for them. Barring the racism and bigotry of Disney himself aside, in this context, firing a guy because you think he might be a pedo is just idiotic thinking.

Lastly, its Disney, they're always going to look like the "good" guy because the masses see Disney as a separate entity. An organization you can't kill, but some of the players? no problem. Same thing with the Weinstein situation, you really think Hollywood is going to be shut down? No of course not, just prop up another pariah and its business as usual on Monday.
 

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I wasn't discussing right or wrong, don't move the goal posts. My point was that he hasn't done anything in the realm of actual pedophilia. And firing someone over "tasteless" and innocuous photos is ridiculous. Yes its the current era, still doesn't make it any less ignorant from Disney. Hypocritical? Of course, this was and still is, a company with actual pedo's working for them. Barring the racism and bigotry of Disney himself aside, in this context, firing a guy because you think he might be a pedo is just idiotic thinking.

Lastly, its Disney, they're always going to look like the "good" guy because the masses see Disney as a separate entity. An organization you can't kill, but some of the players? no problem. Same thing with the Weinstein situation, you really think Hollywood is going to be shut down? No of course not, just prop up another pariah and its business as usual on Monday.
No answer to my query?
Do you think someone should be fired for telling racists jokes on Twitter and then pictures of them in blackface on Holloween come out?
 

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No answer to my query?
Do you think someone should be fired for telling racists jokes on Twitter and then pictures of them in blackface on Holloween come out?

I figured my reply handled both questions....or that you would at least surmise that I obviously feel like no one should be fired for anything they do on their off time. Business and home, have to be mutually exclusive.

Drake's label didn't drop him because of the blackface.

Spike Lee isn't blackballed from Hollywood for his erratic comments over the years

and domestic violence didn't stop Ochocinco from getting into the HoF.

Mutually exclusive needs to be the operative words here and at Disney.
 

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And yet George Carlin was Mr. Conductor, Eddie Murphy was both Mushu and Donkey, and Robin Williams played Genie. All made pedo jokes, Disney had no problem then. They're only riding the PC bandwagon.


Again, he (Gunn) clearly stated that it was "bad" humor. Emulating is a reach. If we see some actual evidence, I'm down with the pitchfork mob, till then, relax, and keep in mind, its America, innocent till proven guilty...even if you have a huge authority complex.
This is false actually. Unless you consider making fun of Pedophiles the same thing as Joking about committing pedophiliac acts. George Carlin, Robin Williams, and Eddie Murphy never joked about themselves committing sex crimes against underage children
 

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I figured my reply handled both questions....or that you would at least surmise that I obviously feel like no one should be fired for anything they do on their off time. Business and home, have to be mutually exclusive.

Drake's label didn't drop him because of the blackface.

Spike Lee isn't blackballed from Hollywood for his erratic comments over the years

and domestic violence didn't stop Ochocinco from getting into the HoF.

Mutually exclusive needs to be the operative words here and at Disney.
People get fired for things they do in their spare time all the time. So really that's just an unreasonable expectation.
 

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This is false actually. Unless you consider making fun of Pedophiles the same thing as Joking about committing pedophiliac acts. George Carlin, Robin Williams, and Eddie Murphy never joked about themselves committing sex crimes against underage children

Please don't edit my posts, if you're gonna quote me, do so without changing what I said, I added / to the pedo and gay jokes respectively. Quote me correctly next time, and we can have a conversation, till then don't bother.
 

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People get fired for things they do in their spare time all the time. So really that's just an unreasonable expectation.

That's the problem, but I already addressed that. But as I've also shown, people get away with murder....quite literally, and still get a pass, its either all okay, or not okay. You can't cherry pick what you're not okay with and expect zero backlash.
 

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Please don't edit my posts, if you're gonna quote me, do so without changing what I said, I added / to the pedo and gay jokes respectively. Quote me correctly next time, and we can have a conversation, till then don't bother.
Nice dodge, Obviously you admit that they never made pedo jokes.
Why are you caping so hard for Pedo's? :sitdown:
 

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That's the problem, but I already addressed that. But as I've also shown, people get away with murder....quite literally, and still get a pass, its either all okay, or not okay. You can't cherry pick what you're not okay with and expect zero backlash.
You're in thr minority then. Let's see if Disney/Marvel pays a heavy price for this. I doubt it.
 

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Please don't edit my posts, if you're gonna quote me, do so without changing what I said, I added / to the pedo and gay jokes respectively. Quote me correctly next time, and we can have a conversation, till then don't bother.
Nice dodge, Obviously you admit that they never made pedo jokes.
Why are you caping so hard for Pedo's? :sitdown:
 

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Nice dodge, Obviously you admit that they never made pedo jokes.
Why are you caping so hard for Pedo's? :sitdown:


You're either trolling or fail at reading comprehension, read my posts again, this time carefully. You missed my point entirely.

Also stop using the cape-ing card, again, read my previous posts, you don't seem to understand objectivity.
 
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