Barack Obama says Robert Byrd, a former KKK Grand Wizard was "An Icon"

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1. OP edited his title

2. I am not a double digit iq like yall. I know how my bread is buttered.

If blacks dont vote, republicans get strong control over areas inhabited by black people.

Republicans have shown overtly malicious intent on making sure blacks cant vote or live in peace.

Think with multiple brain cells breh, not one :hubie:

You insult my intelligence but yet you're doing the same thing once again.
You are making the assumption that finding fault with the democratic party = support for the republican party.

In my case this is simply not true, as I stated in the post you quoted. Nothing in my post was pro-republican or anti-vote but you went there anyway because this is what you are conditioned to do. You are so conditioned that even the mere mention of a democratic senator puts you immediately into defense mode... even if that senator was a member of the KKK :snoop:

The KKK in America has a very long and detailed history of horrific acts.

No black man (biracial or otherwise) should ever call a Grand Wizard and card carrying member of the KKK an icon, its disgusting.
 

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There's a min debate going in one of the other threads. Gandhi's racist quotes from his time living in South Africa surfaced. Students across Africa were rightfully calling for his statues to be taken down. Dude I'm debating with, with a straight face , is saying that the students are wrong, being too pc......and using EVERY other excuse in the book (people didn't know racism was wrong back then, Black people expected non Blacks to be racist, it was the 1890s-1910s...what did you expect?)

Soundng like Lalin in Carlito's Way

 
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Diversion tactic for what? :what:

The object of the discussion, which was going on before you got here, was whether or not Gandhi had influenced the black community.

You came in talk on a side note of whether Gandhi's initial racism came from his Indian background or his British education. I said that it could have been both, it's historically unclear and frankly I don't even care either way, the British were definitely racist against Africans, the Indians may or may not have been colorist before British influence and it doesn't particularly matter to me.

Then you started whining about "out of context", and I answered very specifically what I meant by "out of context".

Then you came in and said:


And I showed how that was straight bullshyt after 1907-1913.





Those were public writings and statements. They were well known.

And the ignorant part of your statement is that you're treating it like it was MLK Jr's individual choice. You can't get away with explaining it like it was a personal decision of MLK Jr. to whitewash Gandhi, you have to explain why John Dube, S.S. Tema, W.E.B. DuBois, Marcus Garvey, Hubert Harrison, Mordacai Johnson, Martin Luther King Jr., Langston Hughes, Aminu Kano, Kwame Nkrumah, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Nelson Mandela, Albert Luthuli, Desmond Tutu, Julius Nyerere, Kenneth Kaunda, and Joshua Nkomo ALL caped for Gandhi. Dube lived within shouting distance of Gandhi and interacted with him all the time, Tema interacted with him too, DuBois interacted with him regularly, Garvey and Gandhi shared books and letters, Johnson and King went all the way to India to study his ways and interact with those who knew him, a lot of the guys on that list studied Gandhi for YEARS before coming to a conclusion about him.

This is called "historical anachronism", where ya'all read something out of context in 2018 and think that people in 1878 or 1943 or 1958 are gonna think just like you do. Political correctness wasn't a thing in their era. Anti-racism was basically not a thing in their era. Black people EXPECTED the average non-Black subject of the British kingdom to be racist. Even the scientists were racist in their day, there wasn't hardly anyone saying, "Don't be racist", anti-racism wasn't seen as a higher moral value. That wasn't saying it was a good thing, it was saying it was an EXPECTED thing.

Tell me the truth now - if God sends you back to 1880 and you interact with some random non-Black subject of the British empire, are you gonna expect them not to be racist? :gucci:

Black activists didn't care if they learned about Gandhi's previous racism as a young man because they expected ALL them people to be racist by default. What they cared about what that he fought against White Supremacy, and that he eventually realized his racist views were wrong, became anti-racist, and argued for the equality of all peoples including the freedom of all Black peoples from oppressive White British and White American rule.

To act like Gandhi's racist statements in the first half of his life would have put him on the Summer Jam Screen in 1911 is just ignorant.




When did I "make excuses" for them? :what: I told you where they came from and put them in context. ALL racist sentiments come from somewhere, it's not like people have a little devil on their shoulder that makes them do bad things. Racist behavior is always learned.




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You don't seem to have no clue what I'm saying.

DuBois and King and the rest WOULD HAVE CARED if Gandhi had stayed racist. They would have cared if he never promoted African equality. But he didn't stay racist, so they didn't hold his earlier statements against him, his later antiracist work was far more unusual and surprising than his earlier racist past had been.

It's weird as hell you hitting me for this too. I know you've seen me in the Coliseum and Higher Learning put people on the Summer Jam Screen for their racist shyt. I'm the one who got the British White boy banned for talking out of line back in April, and just this week I was the one who put that unconscious agent on blast for regurgitating White Supremacist narratives. I have no tolerance for racist behavior. But I also don't see the point of putting people on blast for shyt they don't do anymore cause they changed.

George Wallace before
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George Wallace after
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George Wallace quote from before
"I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, "segregation forever."



George Wallace quote from before
"I shall resist any illegal federal court order, even to the point of standing at the schoolhouse door in person, if necessary."




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Now, write a thesis paper on why people shouldn't be offended by Wallace's words from before...how it was learned behavior, and that since he worked with Civil Rights leaders later in life that we should forget his earlier life.
 

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The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way. The liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor, and by winning the friendship and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political football game. Politically the American Negro is nothing but a football, and the white liberals control this mentally dead ball. Through tricks of tokenism and false promises, and they have the willing cooperation of Negro leaders. These leaders sell out our people for just a few crumbs of token recognition and token gains-----MALCOLM X ( from his speech called, God’s Judgment of White America)

The white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but at least they don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves, they show you their teeth in a snarl. That always keep the Negro aware of where he stands with them, but the white liberals are foxes who show their teeth to the Negro also, but they pretend they’re smiling. The white liberal is more dangerous than the conservative. They lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf. He flees into the open jaws of the smiling fox. The job of the Negro leaders is to make the Negro forget that the wolf and fox belong to the same canine family, and no matter which one of them the Negro puts his trust in. He always ends up in the dog house----MALCOLM X (from his speech called, God’s Judgment of White America)


Shoot the Dems don't even do this now. They have created such a toxic, chaos filled environment, and sewed discourse within everyone, that you can't even disagree with them on ANYTHING. You might agree with something they said, smiles, smiles, smiles, then you might politely disagree with something, and all of sudden yelling, name calling.

Right now, The Democrats are in shambles. You got agents like Triangle man on here lying his butt off, been caught in so many lies, yet he's still able to post here, continuing to sew discourse
 

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Did you watch the video where he called a KKK Grand Wizard an Icon?

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you really gonna let a minute in a half video clip of some White Supremacist site/youtuber influence your decision to make this thread




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you gotta be better then this... do you even know who R. Byrd was ???
 

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you really gonna let a minute in a half video clip of some White Supremacist site/youtuber influence your decision to make this thread




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you gotta be better then this... do you even know who R. Byrd was ???





I'm talking about this video. It's like you're being ignorant on purpose, nice try though
Do YOU know who Robert Byrd was?

Robert Byrd - Wikipedia

In the early 1940s, Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan in Sophia, West Virginia.[10][11]

According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, "You have a talent for leadership, Bob ... The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation." Byrd later recalled, "Suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did."[17] Byrd became a recruiter and leader of his chapter.[11] When it came time to elect the top officer (Exalted Cyclops) in the local Klan unit, Byrd won unanimously.[11]

In 1946, Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."


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I'm talking about this video. It's like you're being ignorant on purpose, nice try though
Do YOU know who Robert Byrd was?

Robert Byrd - Wikipedia




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lemme say this 1st & foremost
cause i know how nikkaz on here love to twist & turn posters statement

im not capping for this cac !!!!

now, with that said - he’s an icon to the party for all the work he put in (its just like any thing in life - to use analogy - Robert Byrd to the Dems is like Tony Parker to the Spurs (Tony was never the best pg in the league, he problaly wasn't even a top 5 pg at any time during his prime ... but his contributions to the franchise with helping them win multiple champion chips automatically makes Tony a SA Spurs icon)


and as far as the KKK shyt goes
you being a bit disingenuous - he was born in the south in the early 1900’s & joined or formed them in his early 20’s, leaving them a few years after... once he got into politics he still had bigot views on certain topics but as he got older his outlook changed which came roughly around the beginnjng of the 70’s. in addition he apologized thousand of times & is on record for saying it was the stupidest shyt he ever done in his life


finally i dunno whats the reasoning of making this thread & using him as an example.... and as i said before it seem like you came across this clip & ran with it
the fact your using a pic of him inna grand master KKK outfit - that’s photoshopped is completely disturbing

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lemme say this 1st & foremost
cause i know how nikkaz on here love to twist & turn posters statement

im not capping for this cac !!!!

now, with that said - he’s an icon to the party for all the work he put in (its just like any thing in life - to use analogy - Robert Byrd to the Dems is like Tony Parker to the Spurs (Tony was never the best pg in the league, he problaly wasn't even a top 5 pg at any time during his prime ... but his contributions to the franchise with helping them win multiple champion chips automatically makes Tony a SA Spurs icon)


and as far as the KKK shyt goes
you being a bit disingenuous - he was born in the south in the early 1900’s & joined or formed them in his early 20’s, leaving them a few years after... once he got into politics he still had bigot views on certain topics but as he got older his outlook changed which came roughly around the beginnjng of the 70’s. in addition he apologized thousand of times & is on record for saying it was the stupidest shyt he ever done in his life


finally i dunno whats the reasoning of making this thread & using him as an example.... and as i said before it seem like you came across this clip & ran with it
the fact your using a pic of him inna grand master KKK outfit - that’s photoshopped is completely disturbing

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Man these white boys/c00ns just cannot help themselves. Cape for a white racist brehs.
 

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and as far as the KKK shyt goes
you being a bit disingenuous - he was born in the south in the early 1900’s & joined or formed them in his early 20’s, leaving them a few years after... once he got into politics he still had bigot views on certain topics but as he got older his outlook changed which came roughly around the beginnjng of the 70’s. in addition he apologized thousand of times & is on record for saying it was the stupidest shyt he ever done in his life
This cac has a history of calling for the death and mistreatment of black people, won a government position for it, but said sorry years later and its ok.

Cacs really do have that privilege.
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Can you imagine a black man apologizing for doing a bunch of fukked up shyt and being forgiven and rewarded with a position as a law maker?

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