Bar for Bar who's the better emcee? Jadakiss or Andre 3000

[JustCKing]

not from new York and I have master p in my avi.

its more like the nerds versus the cool table.

most people down south aren't gonna agree with andre having better bars.

why are you comparing him to biggie, nas & jay?? youre supposed to be comparing him to andre 3000.THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT.
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he was already an established solo artist before he claimed "top 5 dead or alive".
the people set the bar. not jada.

yall have been saying the opposite of the bolded all thread long. which one is it?

fab is a better lyricist than 3000 as well.

I'm not proving your point. I made the comparison because Kiss vlaims he's Top 5 DOA, but doesn't excel at anything that made the GOATs he did songs with greats.

Kiss was not an established solo artist when he made the claim. If I'm not mistaken, he made those claims before he dropped a solo record, which means he wasn't established as a solo artist.

You bugging if you think Fab is a better lyricist than Andre.

 

[315]

you already showed your hand.

I know I did

 

[QU Hectic]

Both are top 10 lyricist for me,but Kiss's over exaggerations in his rhymes can seem to be a bit much at times

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I'm not proving your point. I made the comparison because Kiss vlaims he's Top 5 DOA, but doesn't excel at anything that made the GOATs he did songs with greats.

Kiss was not an established solo artist when he made the claim. If I'm not mistaken, he made those claims before he dropped a solo record, which means he wasn't established as a solo artist.

You bugging if you think Fab is a better lyricist than Andre.

you ARE proving my point. you spent a bunch of energy comparing him to those guys instead of andre 3000
regardless of if you think jada is responsible for setting the bar for himself........and hes not, btw. you don't know what youre talking about.

also, this thread is supposed to be about bars. but again, youre comparing him to jay, nas, big's entire arsenals.

yall don't do all this for andre. yall just randomly force him in as a goat, with no real legitimate justification.

 

[JustCKing]

And people are in here bugging. Andre has been on songs with Nas (Lloyd's "You" remix), Rae ("Skew It On The Bar-B" and that song on the Light It Up Soundtrack), Ross ("Sixteen"), and Jay (Jeezy's "I Do") as well.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

And people are in here bugging. Andre has been on songs with Nas (Lloyd's "You" remix), Rae ("Skew It On The Bar-B" and that song on the Light It Up Soundtrack), Ross ("Sixteen"), and Jay (Jeezy's "I Do") as well.

an elderly Nas on an r&b record
washed-up jay-z
lol @ rick ross being mentioned

im not holding this against andre. im just laughing at this struggle list.
this is the point where you can tell that you have no legs to stand on.

 

[JustCKing]

you ARE proving my point. you spent a bunch of energy comparing him to those guys instead of andre 3000
regardless of if you think jada is responsible for setting the bar for himself........and hes not, btw. you don't know what youre talking about.

also, this thread is supposed to be about bars. but again, youre comparing him to jay, nas, big's entire arsenals.

yall don't do all this for andre. yall just randomly force him in as a goat, with no real legitimate justification.

Read why I made the comparison. I don't have to make the argument for Andre 3000 because he isn't the one claiming to be Top 5 DOA and creating albums to prove that claim.

Jadakiss is responsible for setting that bar. Nothing he spit pre-2001 was worthy of a Top 5 DOA claim.

Nas, Biggie, nor Jay are Top 5 DOA based off bars alone. Yes, they have bars, but what separated them from a Kiss is what they did with those bars. "Nas Is Like" and "NY State of Mind" are Nas straight spittin', but its a showcase of nearly everything he brings to the table as a lyricist. Same goes for Biggie with a song like "Unbelievable" or "Ready To Die". Jay did it with "Can't Knock The Hustle" and "Where I'm From".

Andre 3000 gives you introspection, storytelling, and just spittin on "Elevators" and "Two Dope Boyz".

 

[pointproven214]

Read why I made the comparison. I don't have to make the argument for Andre 3000 because he isn't the one claiming to be Top 5 DOA and creating albums to prove that claim.

Jadakiss is responsible for setting that bar. Nothing he spit pre-2001 was worthy of a Top 5 DOA claim.

Nas, Biggie, nor Jay are Top 5 DOA based off bars alone. Yes, they have bars, but what separated them from a Kiss is what they did with those bars. "Nas Is Like" and "NY State of Mind" are Nas straight spittin', but its a showcase of nearly everything he brings to the table as a lyricist. Same goes for Biggie with a song like "Unbelievable" or "Ready To Die". Jay did it with "Can't Knock The Hustle" and "Where I'm From".

Andre 3000 gives you introspection, storytelling, and just spittin on "Elevators" and "Two Dope Boyz".

smh to each his own

 

[JustCKing]

an elderly Nas on an r&b record
washed-up jay-z
lol @ rick ross being mentioned

im not holding this against andre. im just laughing at this struggle list.
this is the point where you can tell that you have no legs to stand on.

Breh, I ain't the one who made the intial list. Somebody else did and Ross was on that one too. Just say you ain't heard the songs and keep it moving.

 

[CrushedGroove]

3 stacks breh

"Sin all depends on what you believing in/ Faith is what you make it, that's the hardest shyt since MC Ren"

Kiss is like Donald Goines, and 3000 is like James Baldwin. Both are great at what they do, have their own lanes, but James Baldwin challenges you on multiple levels.

 

[JustCKing]

smh to each his own

Which of Kiss's verses convinced you that he was GOAT worthy before he dropped a solo?

Personally, I haven't heard a Kiss verse that had me convinced he was as great as Biggie, Nas or Jay. Nas is my favorite rapper and from 2006-2008, Andre really was dropping some verses that put up some comp.

 

[pointproven214]

Which of Kiss's verses convinced you that he was GOAT worthy before he dropped a solo?

Personally, I haven't heard a Kiss verse that had me convinced he was as great as Biggie, Nas or Jay. Nas is my favorite rapper and from 2006-2008, Andre really was dropping some verses that put up some comp.

look homie i got alot of respect for you , u one of my favorite posters with that being said

last day
money power respect
john blaze
reservoir dogs
his verses on we are streets
all for the love
cream freestyle with biggie
you'll see
back to back
nikkaz done started something

this all before he released his first offical solo album

 

[Pop123]

Andre 1000000%

Jada is madd ABC with the multis, still using that 2001 flow...but he probably has the illest voice in rap history so that shyt sounds amazing

Andre is all around nice, whether we talking lyrically, musically, subject matter, flows, etc...

 

[pointproven214]

Andre 1000000%

Jada is madd ABC with the multis, still using that 2001 flow...but he probably has the illest voice in rap history so that shyt sounds amazing

Andre is all around nice, whether we talking lyrically, musically, subject matter, flows, etc...

lmao jada got complex rhyme schemes.

 

[JustCKing]

look homie i got alot of respect for you , u one of my favorite posters with that being said

last day
money power respect
john blaze
reservoir dogs
his verses on we are streets
all for the love
cream freestyle with biggie
you'll see
back to back
nikkaz done started something

this all before he released his first offical solo album

Having heard nearly all of these, I disagree. Dope verses, but noyhing I was rushing to put him up there with GOATs over.