#BandCamp...What Happens In Vegas, Stays In Vegas: Adrien Broner vs Shawn Porter Fight Thread

Who wins?

  • Adrien Broner

    Votes: 43 67.2%
  • Shawn Porter

    Votes: 21 32.8%

  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .

GREENandYELLOW

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You realize you just described Adrien Broner right :comeon:

It aint easy to out box Lucas...he literally has dropped erry fighter hes faced besides Danny N Prov N Prov he put a beating on

You need a chin N not be scary to beat Matthysse...you need to work Matthysse body...you need to throw punches

Based off ABs history what makes you believe he can do that??
This. Matthysse is starting to get underrated on here. Matthysse may not be some mythical creature who is going to run through every fighter, but he has given every opponent a tough fight.
Alexander didn't get out of there easy and it was close. Gave Judah a hell of a fight (personally I thought he won). Prov and him traded blows and Prov said it was the hardest puncher he has ever faced. Traded hooks with Peterson and smiled while Peterson went to the canvas. And gave Danny his most physically demanding fight.

Win, lose, or draw, Matthysse has always given every opponent a hell of a fight. I think the stat is he has knocked down 38 of his 41 opponents. And two who made it upright were Prov and Danny and they have world class chins (Danny couldn't hear after the fight and Prov said it was the hardest puncher he has faced). At this point we know he wont win them all, but he will give you a heck of a fight.
 

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fernando vargas would literally KILL adrien broner. these two are nowhere near eachother at all. prime fernando vargas probably beats every guy at 147 today. he gave prime oscar and tito everything they could handle and also beat winky wright which kills anything these guys at 147 have done. I don't even like vargas but he'd fukk adrien broner until he loved him.

Vargas was rushed because they thought his out of the ring BS would land him dead or in jail, him and broner are nowhere near the same pedigree. Vargas was an outstanding prospect and olympic level fighter. he was too much too soon and ruined, broner is being fed bums that vargas would have knocked into next year, if vargas was built up like broner and fought tito later he would have definatley been a top fighter for longer than he was
 

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This article says it all. Kinda sad.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...om-the-clown-prince-of-boxing-to-a-mere-clown

Two years ago, some of the top minds in boxing considered Adrien Broner, then an undefeated rising star, among a handful on the short list of Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s heirs apparent. He wasn't just any rising star—Broner was thought to be one of the men capable of leading boxing into the future.

It was a rise to fame based on his bigger-than-life persona. A natural promoter, Broner's brash attitude made him popular everywhere he traveled in the world of new media. Whether it was a fake wedding proposal, reported strip-club shenanigans or his very own alleged sex tape,

Broner was leading boxing's charge into the new millennium.
Since he's become famous in truth and rich enough to literally flush money (Warning: NSFW language) down the toilet, Broner nearly lost a decision to a fading Paulie Malignaggi, was blown out of the water by Marcos Maidana and lost overwhelmingly Saturday night to Shawn Porter.

Broner's (30-2) brilliance nearly saved him in the 12th and final round at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Trailing the relentless Porter (26-1-1) on the scorecards, he needed his prayers of desperation to be answered—and they almost were.
Broner's left hook landed squarely on Porter's face. It was the kind of punch that boxers dream about, the kind capable of sending Porter, a man who has never hit the mat, down to the canvas.

"Broner did what champions do," boxing Hall of Famer-turned-NBC announcer "Sugar" Ray Leonard said. "You can never count a champion out."
We saw Broner's potential flare up in his most desperate hour. He reminded fans, once again, what he might be able to do if he truly put his mind to it.
But it was not, it turned out, enough. Round by Round Boxing provided the fighters' punch stats:

After he wiped the surprise look off his face, Porter gathered himself and finished out the round. Eventually, he even reverted back to being the aggressor. Even with his professional hopes hanging in the balance, Broner seemed too cool to care.
Despite the defeat, that performance makes Broner the story. What if he had opened up earlier? What if he had sat down on his punches? What if he trained a little harder? What if he watched a little more tape?
While we don't yet know whether he can turn it around, the once-rising star appears to be falling back to earth at alarming speeds. Even at 25, he seems to be beyond hope, the classic case of too much being given to a developing fighter way too soon.

Broner's incredible persona made up for enormous flaws in his game. You can see those cracks in the armor as far back as his appearance on ShoBox: The New Generation against Fernando Quintero in 2009, way before they became fault lines against Maidana and Porter. Broner can be backed up, he doesn't have a particularly stout shoulder-roll defense, and most importantly, he can be out-thrown and out-landed.

The problem isn't that Broner lost a fight to a great competitor; it's the way he lost. Against the real thing in Porter, Broner simply let too many rounds go. He refused to punch or fight. Instead, he chose to run and hold.

Broner wasn't just a loser—he was a loser who looked bad. Worse, he was a loser who looked boring.

Network television has taken away some of Broner's prodigious self-expression. No one expected he'd look so lost without his obscenity-laced high jinks. What's left is a safety-first boxer, a Broner who isn't capable of entertaining us—inside the ring or out.
In truth, Broner isn't made for network TV. He's too brash, too outspoken, too bold, too vulgar, too everything for the kind of viewers who might accidentally stumble upon NBC's boxing programming.

Broner is for cable, for the Internet, for short videos streaming to our cellphones and tablets and for the streets. In short, for every place but where he is right now.
"I'm OK. My kids OK. I'm financially fine. It's OK," a sneering Broner said after the fight on the broadcast. "At the end of the day, everybody in here will take my autograph and take a picture with me."

It was classic Broner bravado, albeit a bit hollow after his dismal showing against Porter. It's one thing to be flippant and sharp-tongued when you're winning fights. Winners write their own rules. When you try to pull off the same attitude after coming up short, fans aren't nearly so accommodating.

It's unclear what's next for Broner. His two appearances in prime time on NBC show what high hopes Premier Boxing Champions and promoter Al Haymon had for the young star. After an unimpressive win and an even less impressive loss, it's time to rebuild—both in the ring and beyond.

For the first time, one of Haymon's chosen few have fallen short. He now faces his sternest test yet as boxing's new creative force: figuring out how to redeem the clown prince who looks more and more like a mere clown.
 

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Homes, he just isn't that good. He thinks every opponent is supposed to be terrified of him, and then, when they aren't, he clams up.


We're talking about a guy who's started his career as a Super Featherweight and now he has 2 losses in his career...both took place above Junior Welterweight, which is his peak weight to fight at.


It's no coincidence that bigger fighters are "The Problem" (:mjpls:) for him. Both fighters who are naturally bigger, and they also have outweighed him in the ring on fight night, have beaten him.


He's not a Welterweight. Simple as that. 2 losses at Welterweight, with you only win being against a guy who had no power and had only fought above 140 5 times himself before facing you, does not make you a true Welterweight. Championship or not.


He has time to change it around. He'll be 26 next month. Let's not forget Wlad was getting KO'd by Purrity, Sanders, and Brewster at 28 years old before he linked up with the legend Emmanuel Steward (:rip:) and changed his career around.


AB can do the same, he just needs a new trainer around him...him and Stafford peaked already imo. Their gameplan was trash.
 

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Basically..

Lacy and Rios have good jabs too and them nikkas used it as sparsely as Broner does.

Plenty of fighters out there with good punches/moves, but for whatever reason don't use 'em.

Thats the thing I was in that thread N told these nikkas AB doesn't jab like that...he doesn't fight like that....jus cuz he did it to Molina who threw 200 total punches doesn't mean he can fight like that when his opp throws 400-500 punches N pressures him

I even found avgs for ABs last 5 fights before Molina... 10 total jabs thrown per round

These nikkas replied to me with "Salka Herrera Peterson lol" :dead:
 

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Floyd hardly jabs either, although he did in his last fight. I remember an announcer saying before it's almost like Floyd disdains his own jab.

Broner's performance was disappointing to me on Saturday. He looked completely unprepared and I don't know if that's on his trainer or on him. Probably both. Had a feeling that fight would play out like a did as I was hoping he would have learned after getting assaulted by Maidana. He's a dikkhead though and one shouldn't expect too much of him on anything in life. On a positive note, we can finally brush him off and real talk I think Algeri would beat his azz.
First of all, the bold is totally wrong.

Secondly, Broner just doesn't do what he needs to do. Obviously from his two losses, we can see that he doesn't handle pressure well. I think that since he doesn't have such great footwork that he just needs to let his hands go. For a guy who's so brash he handles pressure very timidly.
 

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after rewatching the fight, porter fought just like maidana
 
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First of all, the bold is totally wrong.

Secondly, Broner just doesn't do what he needs to do. Obviously from his two losses, we can see that he doesn't handle pressure well. I think that since he doesn't have such great footwork that he just needs to let his hands go. For a guy who's so brash he handles pressure very timidly.

Yeah he needs to fight some lower tier pressure fighters from the Haymon power plant & work on that part of his game. Running into pressure fighters is unavoidable.
 
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