Baltimore man Freddie Gray dies after getiing neck broken while in police custody

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and if he didn't turn himself in he'd be a fugitive of the law and running..so again i ask...what would you have had him do. funny how nobody has seemed to answer this question yet

if he didn't turn himself in he'd be free, not a fugitive as there was no warrant out for his arrest nor was he even identified to be a fugitive in the first place, what I would NOT do is voluntarily turn my own child in long before the process got started to even track him or anyone else down who participated in destroying a car.
 

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so tell me bro...how else do you handle a situation where the final step is him going to see a jail cell eventually? ya'll the type of muthafukas that do dirt and blame it on the next man when u get caught.


Looks like they helped accelerate that one:heh:
 

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and if he didn't turn himself in he'd be a fugitive of the law and running..so again i ask...what would you have had him do. funny how nobody has seemed to answer this question yet


Breh you are a little older and you seem more wise than the young boy

You can't tell me you didn't read the article and yell OHHHHHHHHHHHH


I literally just yelled OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

In the office.. How could the parents just turn him in like that


What the fuk


These yesssa bossin dumb nikkas
 

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One of the most sophistic talking points consistently trotted out in situations like this is "they're destroying their own community." Hoods and ghettos are not communities except by the loosest and laziest definitions of the word. I grew up in two of the worst neighborhoods in 1980s and 90s New York City, and had family in other terrible NYC projects, and I have never understood what these ignorant jackasses can possibly mean when they use the term "community" to describe these places. None of us owned property in these areas; there were literally thousands of people packed into my building and the buildings next door; people barely left their apartments let alone knew their neighbors; there weren't legitimate grocery stores nearby, only bodegas and Chinese spots operated by people who often had glass barriers between us and them; no city officials ever renovated or tended to our playgrounds, many of which were in such a state of disrepair that no child could do anything on those concrete squares except play a potentially dangerous game of tag; the schools are an educational death sentence - the success story was always getting into a school far away from our "community;" police hardly policed the area except to harass and arrest, rarely if ever to protect; people lacked for basic health services and children went hungry and were often abused; we threw our garbage - which included big ass mice we caught on glue traps - into a giant incinerator, and lord knows the trash wasn't picked up in the area on any discernible schedule; elevators were constantly inoperable, leaving the old and young alike to hike up to 19 floors of steps just to get back to their apartments from any task; if you didn't have a laundry center in your building, sometimes you had to carry clothes as many as 10 blocks away to wash them in a packed laundry spot, where you had to watch your clothes as they washed and dried or risk them being stolen - which meant a simple hour long task that allows most to do other things in the meantime could occupy your entire afternoon and throw your schedule off; crackheads were in the stairwells and hallways on any given day - no landlord, super, or security were present to keep any semblance of order; a handful of shytty fast food chains were littered around the area, with unsanitary conditions and stressed, depressed, shytty employees.

On top of that, these "communities" have no stability in terms of the members of the population or the shops that mark the area. "Communities" can't be disbursed and redesigned at the whim of the children of the wealthy who decide to set up shop after college and displace an entire group of people who suffered through shytty conditions for a decade or more only to find the rents suddenly exponentially increase because young white professionals have a fantasy about living in the city and want to be near a subway line that gets to midtown quickly. "Communities" have commonalities that extend beyond poverty, suffering, and desperation.

These people are not "destroying their communities." They're destroying spaces that are practically open air prisons. This isn't the only riot, it's simply the culmination of many smaller riots that occur internally for residents of these area on a daily basis. If you've ever been dehumanized by a social worker; humiliated by an older neighborhood bully who flashed a gun on you for no reason; detained or beaten by police just because; gone days between meals; never had an allowance; slept on a floor or couch consistently; shared clothes throughout childhood with your brothers and sisters and cousins; gone over a year without a haircut because your parent(s) have nothing outside of a meager public assistance check because there aren't any jobs and even if there were they aren't qualified for any except the most menial and lowest paying; had the fukking shower cut off before you even finish getting the soap and shampoo off you; seen roaches and rats run freely through your apartment no matter how clean you keep it; never been able to stick your head out of a window because they're all barred... If so, you've been rioting inwardly, against yourself, for years and years and years. Because you are hurt and you are angry. And depression is just anger turned inward. So we suffer and we riot against the self because we don't know where else to direct our pain and anger at the injustice of life. We turn to alcohol, drugs, gangs, and all sorts of escapist activities and vices as a riot against ourselves and the conditions we live in. No one chooses to be born in these conditions, but society is set up so 9/10 will never escape from a cruel fate we had no hand in shaping. Our fukking existences are riots, slow deaths, self-destructive episodes that make us feel a little more alive or a little less dead - that give us the feeling society denies us: that we fukking matter.

This riot against the city is actually a healthier kind of riot. I don't condone or condemn it; I simply understand it, because it's fukking inevitable when you treat a group of people the way America has treated blacks in general, and the poorest blacks specifically. fukk this country for turning their backs on and giving the figurative finger to us every day, excluding us from the most basic benefits of citizenship, blocking us from the resources that would allow us to actually establish a community, historically ransacking our communities when we do establish them, and then having the Goddamned gall to get on a high horse and talk about blacks destroying these supposed "communities" they themselves wouldn't deign to spend a week in unless the only alternative was prison or Afghanistan.

Eat a dikk if you're talking this "community" bullshyt.
 

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you do not do the polices work for them .... i could be wrong but i dont think this was the only police car destroyed so why turn in your kid for it....let the police do their police work ....... shyt would have probably been chalked up as part of the chaos and went away.....how did the parents think this was commendable?!!

Police did do their work, there was warrant for his arrest and they knew the police were coming, that's why they said "turn yourself in", that was the whole point. It ain't like they told him "go tell them that's you", they could have dropped dime on the other dude in the pic but they didn't...now that would have been fukked up. He was already caught it was only a matter of time before they put foot to door.
 

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Not when the majority of those politicians are Black. So they have to go through a back door to make it happen...hence the reason it's been going on for close to ten years
the mayor of this city vetoed police cameras and called teenagers thugs when her own police force severed a mans spine for nothing. stop fooling yourself into thinking black politicians give a fukk. black politicians are just c00ns with a little more power than the ones posting on the coli.
 

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Freddie Grays murder is a symptom of the serious illness this city has and has had for a long time. If not for out of town organizers, I don't even think his murder would have moved ones in this city to do anything at all. What happened to him is just that normal here.

I have personally experienced police harassment so many times that I expect it during each interaction I have with them.

I am currently charged with a crime that carries 25 years in prison and was initially denied bail because a charge that the state has been postponing for 2 years was allowed to be a factor in my bail determination. Because the situation is ongoing I wont speak on the case much but put simply, it is another case of police harassment.

Brothers and Sisters are tired of it.
 

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if he didn't turn himself in he'd be free, not a fugitive as there was no warrant out for his arrest nor was he even identified to be a fugitive in the first place, what I would NOT do is voluntarily turn my own child in long before the process got started to even track him or anyone else down who participated in destroying a car.

:what: there was a warrant
 

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and if he didn't turn himself in he'd be a fugitive of the law and running..so again i ask...what would you have had him do. funny how nobody has seemed to answer this question yet


His family is disloyal as fukk...point blank

in a different world...police investigate crimes and then charge the person with evidence...

the family didn't even let the pigs do their job...turning him in was totally unnecessary :mjlol:

it would have probably taken the cops months to do the so call "knocking on his door" and now they put this young brother in jail prematurely :mjcry:or probably never :dwillhuh:
 

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Not when the majority of those politicians are Black. So they have to go through a back door to make it happen...hence the reason it's been going on for close to ten years

if people buy up the property and start moving in what exactly can politicians do to stop it, if they purchase homes Black people are renting and proceed to raise the rent, what can politicians do, NOTHING. When white people gentrify an area, they don't need permission from anyone, they just let their money do the talking, and those Black politicians like money just as much as white politicians do. Gentrification isn't an overnight process so "10 years" doesn't mean much as you can best believe they've gotten a lot accomplished during those 10 years, you'll know what's good when you see the Starbucks and Whole Foods stores popping up in "black areas"
 

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:what: there was a warrant

where's your proof?

Bullock's stepfather Maurice Hawkins, 44, told the paper police would "find him, knock down our door and beat him" if he didn't give himself up.

"By turning himself in he also let me know he was growing as a man and he recognized what he did was wrong," Maurice Hawkins told the paper. "But they are making an example of him and it is not right."

But the family can't afford the $500,000 bail. And now Bullock's eight criminal charges, including rioting and malicious destruction of property, could land him in jail for four to eight years, his parents told the Guardian.

are there warrants out for the rest of the kids too?

:mjlol:
 

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oh aite...didnt know they had a warrant out for youngin

This is what a lot people are missing. They didn't want the police running up in their house, they didn't want their son to be put in a situation where it's their word against his. He was charged and a warrant was issued, the only reason they're even on tv is because the real issue is with the system and how the bails are never lowered and seem to always be made even higher than the DA requests. That's what the entire point of the article was, how his bail was 500K and they were saying it was too high.
 

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This is what a lot people are missing. They didn't want the police running up in their house, they didn't want their son to be put in a situation where it's their word against his. He was charged and a warrant was issued, the only reason they're even on tv is because the real issue is with the system and how the bails are never lowered and seem to always be made even higher than the DA requests. That's what the entire point of the article was, how his bail was 500K and they were saying it was too high.

where's your proof of this warrant being issued?
 
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