Awards Season: Road to the 2018 Oscars

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It’s a black comedy.

Get out used humour as well a lot
Get Out addressed it's racism. Three Billboards presented it as tangential characteristics of the town/characters but didn't have anything to actually say about it. Which is cool, I guess, but having nothing to say about the issue you're using as a setting, while still using stock black prop characters in your narrative with huge tonal shifts makes it feel clumsy.
 

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It feels like people are using a lazy analysis of the film and saying that’s it’s the film that’s simplistic. Like people wanted Sam Rockwell to be a cartoony villain who’s racism is his only defining trait with absolutely no middle ground to his character. I don’t get it. And I don’t understand how anyone is saying it has an easy answer for racism.

See that’s not what I mean at all. I got no problem with sam’s character arc. I’m saying the film seems to say that hey we can easily deal with racism if we follow a certain set of steps and rules and I think that’s racism from the perspective of someone who’s never actually experienced it. I’ve heard and read the argument that sams character got let off the hook too easily. Maybe so maybe no but that didn’t bother me. Three billboards much like crash, felt like a flick that wanted to touch the subject but make sure everyone was comfortable about it.

Racism in America (can’t speak for Canada or Europe) is one of those things that makes a lot of people uncomfortable because they don’t want to face the issue. We’re the country that said racism is over because we elected Obama twice. The same country that said racism is over because black people could now vote or buy houses or buy cars etc when in reality racism is deep seated and will take generations to properly be wiped out. Three billboards seemed to want to play the simple over the complex and not challenge people. I think we’re too deep in a lot of shyt in this country to not challenge people when it comes to race and how we discuss it.

That knock on the the way the movie handles it’s subject matter doesn’t mean I don’t like the movie or even the performances. It’s fine and the performances are great. But I think if I’m looking at another movie that deals with a similar subject, get out does it without making me feel like I’m in elementary school
 

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@pickles wherss your boy this year? Decided to let everyone else eat while he films another Harry Potter spin off? Is he ever coming back for the title?

And real question: who’s starting the thread this year?
 

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No easy racism as in "hey here's how we fix it!" or a very simplistic view of it. Again, much like Crash. As compared to something like Get Out which paints it as something complex which can hide in plain sight and has multiple layers to it.
It’s not really a good comparison.

Get out is a film about racism, 3 billboards simply touches on it with one single character,it isn’t the main driving force of the film like get out.
 

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Get Out addressed it's racism. Three Billboards presented it as tangential characteristics of the town/characters but didn't have anything to actually say about it. Which is cool, I guess, but having nothing to say about the issue you're using as a setting, while still using stock black prop characters in your narrative with huge tonal shifts makes it feel clumsy.

I agree with you on the tonal shift but the black characters in the movie felt like normal nice people while all the white folks were terrible.
 

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@pickles wherss your boy this year? Decided to let everyone else eat while he films another Harry Potter spin off? Is he ever coming back for the title?

And real question: who’s starting the thread this year?

Isn't this the Oscar thread?
 

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It’s not really a good comparison.

Get out is a film about racism, 3 billboards simply touches on it with one single character,it isn’t the main driving force of the film like get out.

See and that’s my point. I don’t think in 2018 you can just touch on it in that way and not actually deal with it. I think we’re past that. At least I know I am. If it’s there then let’s deal with it rather than making it window dressing
 

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See that’s not what I mean at all. I got no problem with sam’s character arc. I’m saying the film seems to say that hey we can easily deal with racism if we follow a certain set of steps and rules and I think that’s racism from the perspective of someone who’s never actually experienced it. I’ve heard and read the argument that sams character got let off the hook too easily. Maybe so maybe no but that didn’t bother me. Three billboards much like crash, felt like a flick that wanted to touch the subject but make sure everyone was comfortable about it.

Racism in America (can’t speak for Canada or Europe) is one of those things that makes a lot of people uncomfortable because they don’t want to face the issue. We’re the country that said racism is over because we elected Obama twice. The same country that said racism is over because black people could now vote or buy houses or buy cars etc when in reality racism is deep seated and will take generations to properly be wiped out. Three billboards seemed to want to play the simple over the complex and not challenge people. I think we’re too deep in a lot of shyt in this country to not challenge people when it comes to race and how we discuss it.

That knock on the the way the movie handles it’s subject matter doesn’t mean I don’t like the movie or even the performances. It’s fine and the performances are great. But I think if I’m looking at another movie that deals with a similar subject, get out does it without making me feel like I’m in elementary school
And what steps does the film tell you to follow to deal with racism?
 

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See and that’s my point. I don’t think in 2018 you can just touch on it in that way and not actually deal with it. I think we’re past that. At least I know I am. If it’s there then let’s deal with it rather than making it window dressing
But,that’s not what the film is about. You’re basically saying a movie can’t touch on racism unless the film is about racism. That’s judging a film for what it isn’t instead of what it is.
 

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I agree with you on the tonal shift but the black characters in the movie felt like normal nice people while all the white folks were terrible.
The point is they weren't characters. One goes to jail off screen on some bullshyt and comes back as if we forgot she even existed. We don't get her experience; her entire inclusion in the story is to add meat to the racist cop and the angry woman.

shyt like that feels clumsy in 2018. We're sort of past that as film viewers. Or at least we should be.
 

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The point is they weren't characters. One goes to jail off screen on some bullshyt and comes back as if we forgot she even existed. We don't get her experience; her entire inclusion in the story is to add meat to the racist cop and the angry woman.

Your forgetting the black police chief. I'm not saying the film is a hotspot for well written black characters. I'm just saying all the black characters are good while all the white characters are a$$hole, racist or both.
 

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Your forgetting the black police chief. I'm not saying the film is a hotspot for well written black characters. I'm just saying all the black characters are good while all the white characters are a$$hole, racist or both.
Another way to phrase this is all of the black characters are stock 2 dimensional props while all of the white characters are interesting and developed.
 
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