Avengers Endgame cheated us with the Hulk

[KingCesar]

He got his ass handed to him by Thanos and even in his enraged state he realized he couldn't beat Thanos with just pure strength. He was outclassed by a better fighter, and couldn't just use his anger anymore. He was shook.

The Russos actually gave a different answer to what happened. It was something about Hulk being tired of being used to solve all of Banner’s problems.

Now where the explanation for that motivation came from, what it had to do with anything related to the Hulk in the other movies, and why it all of a sudden became a problem then and there are never explained. And it’s also never explained how Banner merging with Hulk solves the problem.

But that’s always been the problem with these movies: they set stuff up, but they never really follow through.

 

[KingCesar]

Far from perfect, Infinity War was much better.

Neither were that good, IMO.

 

[SunZoo]

I don't feel cheated, I just wish the option do do a solo movie made what is a dope character arc feel disjointed and slow. Like if we could have seen his transition from Ragnarok to Endgame in one film with more details it wouldn't have felt like such a let down and would have given the fans time to really get inside his head where the real battle would have been taking place. That's the one aspect I feel Norton's hulk would have nailed so much better.

He got his ass handed to him by Thanos and even in his enraged state he realized he couldn't beat Thanos with just pure strength. He was outclassed by a better fighter, and couldn't just use his anger anymore. He was shook.

He wasn't shook. He was tired of being used by Banner and his clique and he would have rather been on Sakaar where he could smash shyt, be himself and be seen as a god. He liked that much more than how he was made to feel on earth.

He would have went a couple more rounds with Thanos, and would have still got his ass handed to him as long as he was all brawn.

Given the rumors about Secret Wars possibly being the next Avengers event..I think Endgame sets up Hulk for a heel turn once he stops being able to repress his rage. Despite that injury being 'permanent' he's gonna be looking for ways to fix it and probably still fukking with his time machine. The Hulk with rage AND intellect is a problem. And if there really will be showdown with Wolverine at some on screen it's gonna have to be because Bruce lost his shyt, not the other way around.

 

[snikt6384]

Chill with the Infinity War slander. That shyt was fire from start to finish. I love Endgame too, but do think the middle drags some.

As for Hulk I had nothing against his arc until Endgame. When I saw him get flatlined in IW I was with it, because it sold Thanos as a big threat and I thought Hulk was gonna have a moment in Endgame where he got his balls back.

It didnt even have to be a long one. It didnt even have to really break up the flow of the movie. It could have been as simple as him punching the shyt out of Thanos at any point during that last fight. Insert a clever line and boom. That's all that was needed. Standing ovation in the theater.

And nothing. They did my boy Bruce dirty.

 

[Rekkapryde]

how u fastforward 5 years and not even show what happened to Bruce and the Hulk, why the Hulk didn't want to come out in Infinity War and now all of a sudden, he's Professor Hulk with no real explanation

They've jobbed Hulk since Age of Ultron.

Whedons Hulk>>>>>>>>>>

He's been made into a doofus since.

 

[Mortal1]

I actually felt like the Hulk had grown a bit in Raganok especially when he breaks down and tells Thor how he feels as an avenger and how the world treated him like an outcast. Then the scene, where he reverts back to Banner, was a great reverse of how Banner felt terror reverting into Hulk. In infinity War I can accept him getting beat by Thanos because he's never won a fight against him in the comics anyway. The inner conflict between the two was interesting throughout Infinity War as well. Then Endgame ignores that payoff and skips past one of the most important moments in the Hulk comics (Professor Hulk) and doesn't even show how Banner and Hulk reconcile and just explain it in two minutes. I'm sorry but that's just plain wack as fukk. Professor Hulk was with the shyts in the comics plus he had the intelligence of Banner. It’s a shame because they didn’t even give him any of the meaningful action moments people love about the character. Although I will say that I did like the fact he was the one who snapped everybody back into existence.

 

[SunZoo]

The Russos actually gave a different answer to what happened. It was something about Hulk being tired of being used to solve all of Banner’s problems.

Now where the explanation for that motivation came from, what it had to do with anything related to the Hulk in the other movies, and why it all of a sudden became a problem then and there are never explained. And it’s also never explained how Banner merging with Hulk solves the problem.

But that’s always been the problem with these movies: they set stuff up, but they never really follow through.

It had everything to do with Hulk in other movies. From being hunted down by Ross and Banner himself (trying to commit suicide) to Avengers trying to lock him up until they need his help, to Tony inventing tech specifically to take him down to him being so ashamed at how people were afraid of him that he hopped into the Quinjet and left the planet entirely.

Then he ends up on Sakaar where he's not only worshiped as a god for doing all of the things that he was shamed and hunted for on earth.. He also gets 2 years of full control to be out and about, experience, learn, form opinions, understand friendship, ect.

He remembers that he was hated on earth. He also remembers that The Avengers were "Banner's friends" not his with the closest thing to having bond with any of them was with Thor. He didn't want to go back there, he didn't want to help Banner or his 'friends' out of a jam and then be told to go sit in a corner. The Merger solves the problem, at least temporarily because it makes a compromise between the two personalities. Banner gets to 'steer' and retain his intelligence without being weak, Hulk gets to experience life and be adored and feel included, it's why he was so thirsty for signing autographs, selfies and doing good deeds, Hulk get's to be loved instead of feared, like he was on Sakaar.

 

[SunZoo]

I actually felt like the Hulk had grown a bin Raganok tbh especially when he breaks down and tells Thor how he feels as an avenger and how the world treated him like an outcast. Then scene, where he reverts back to Banner, was a great reverse of how Banner felt terror reverting into Hulk. In infinity War I can accept him getting beat by Thanos because he's never won a fight against him in the comics anyway. The inner conflict between the two was interesting throughout Infinity War as well. Then Endgame ignores that payoff and skips past one of the most important moments in the Hulk comics (Professor Hulk) and doesn't even show how Banner and Hulk reconcile and just explain it in two minutes. I'm sorry but that's just plain wack as fukk. Professor Hulk was with the shyts in the comics and had the intelligence of Banner and they don't give him any meaningful action moments people love about the character. I will say that I did like the fact he was the one who snapped everybody back into existence.

I think they'll double back and get deeper into it, they're gonna have to because of She Hulk.

With Universal playing nice I wouldn't be surprised if his story arc gets taken to Disney + instead of being stretched out for the movies.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Due to the rights issues Hulk can't get solo films anymore. She Hulk is getting a series on the Disney service so she won't appear until then. The Russos say Hulks arm is permanently damaged Unless he appears in someone else's movie it's a wrap for Hulk unless a future director can retcon that bullshyt

wait what

 

[darryl]

The incredible hulk (2008) is still the most underrated superhero film ever and I stand by that

 

[Still FloW]

mid-cu turned a great conflicted character into a comedy relief bytch and you fucc nikka sheep ate it up smh...

have elite regenerative powers and get ya arm permanently crippled brehhs

Nortons Hulk was lightyears superior to that clown ruffalos own, hell even Nortons Bruce was dope

 

[OmegaK2099]

There are rumors that marvel wants to do a wolverine vs hulk movie

 

[Fukwatutalkinwatisaylaw]

I think it would be easy to recon though. THey can just have him turn into grey hulk and say Grey Hulk has the ability to regenerate. (which all the hulks are supposed to be able to do but i digress).

Why would that make sense when Grey Hulk is weaker than Green Hulk.. That movie would be worse

 

[Easy-E]

Captain Marvel was over powered as it is...

 

[Mortal1]

There are rumors that marvel wants to do a wolverine vs hulk movie

Wolverines first appearance in the comics was in The Hulk so this would be a great way to introduce him into the MCU.