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im stuck out of town without much to do, one thing i do enjoy is breaking down fighters and discussing fighters. Im sure this thread will flop, but ask me whatever about whoever. I stopped fighting in 2000 i fought amatuer 1996-2000. i hated making weight, i wasnt very strong so the lower weights were critical for me, but it killed me making featherweight once i hit 6'1 i couldnt do it. RIP chico i remember wanting to ask him how he was doing it but the tourney he was at where i could have asked i broke my left wrist and never got to meet him :mjcry:

You could easily beat me if you could get past my jab, i was a converted southpaw who relied ENTIRELY on my jab and holding if you got inside. i did have a vicious left and right hook to the body. I loved hooking off the jab. But if you could take one to get one i would often mentally break down and look to survive if a shorter guy could get past my height. i was largely a bum once i moved up in weight and quit for hos and grafiti
 

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Early Floyd-Sugar shane, Tua, Golota, Margarito

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@Cole Cash I'm Game homie...your thoughts on Ike Quartey and Steve Cunningham?

Ike Quartey had just one of the most schooled and beautiful jabs ive ever seen but desicions not going his way really hurt him. De La Hoya, Vargas and especially his comeback with Wright should have given him SOMETHING. Looking at Quartey reminds me of how much Vargas got a WWE style push, same with De La Hoya, you look at him and you wonder what could have been if just a couple judges would have just given him his due.

Steve Cunningham to me was a guy who everytime i looked at him, i wonder if he dipped his body in fukking oil or some shyt, the nikka was the epitome of a ebony adonis (no homo) but his promotional issues made it so he wasnt visible for awhile. Dudes defense was extremely leaky too but when he caught you he caught you. I still think his career was underwhelming for a division that wasnt really that great, beating Wayne Braithweight is a gimmie. I never saw his fight with Tyson Fury because i honestly felt by 2013 the guy was done, i forgot who i saw him against but he had lost a step. I just dont get this guys lack of activity, but i genuinely think it was the promotional shyt that held him back.
 

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Guillermo Rigondeaux

While alot of the attention was focused on Lara and Gamboa (especially gamboa because he was knocking people the fukk out) I remember Rigondaeux being a virtual prodigy out there during the olympics. This dude was increidbly dominant. I felt like he had it all. I Got a good look at him back in i think 2010 during pac-margarito (one of the few fights i was glad i was drugged out for cuz that shyt was ass) as a pro and i realized that his style was everything i loved about a fighter, his counter punching immaculate and defensively his positioning was honed like a fukking master. Alot of these cubans get exposed when they turn pro here, not this guy, his focus on fundamentals was clear. The fight against donaire, at the time sadly guys i didint have cable, from about late 2012-2015 i missed alot of major fights once i was deep into drugs and in rehab etc. However i caught the fight on youtube and i was waiting for Donaire to get exposed, as much as I liked him, he stopped doing alot of what made him successful which was set up his left hook, Rigondaeux ended that boy and i love Donaire.

One big issue that people run to is "boring" fukk boring and fukk you, this is boxing, if you wanna see two slobs duke it out, check that trash that bellator put out akh
 

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Ike Quartey had just one of the most schooled and beautiful jabs ive ever seen
quoted for emphasis..best fukking jab ive ever seen..ive spent hours in the gym trying to imitate it like him..his jab was not just a setup for another weapon..it was its own weapon..the snap on it :ohlawd:
 

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Early Floyd-Sugar shane, Tua, Golota, Margarito

full breakdowns please

Early floyd mayweather is a special thing for me because since the amatuers, were talking 1995 his name was going around as being an invincible dragon (word to art of fighting) i saw every fight during the olympics that i could, we got robbed up and down, that team waas special, nearly everything but i think reid had a great career. Early floyd mayweather was A MONSTER. You could head to head him with any lightweight in history and get a great fight. Power in both hands, reflexes, knockout power, i mean LEGIT knockout power in both hands. A straight right hand you cant see coming. Looking at his old fights against jesus chavez, genaro hernandez, jose luis castillo (yes he won i dont give a fukk) and chico showed you this guy had it all. I thought chico was gonna knock his block off. The sad thing is, Barrera beating Prince led to a clash that never happened, mayweather was willing to meet him at a catch weight if he won that fight if im not mistaken. It would have launched mayweather before the gatti fight.

Speaking of the gatti fight, that along with ricky hatton are mayweathers last great prime performences before he definately started losing a step. The Gatti fight and The Hatton fight are special, angering CACs to the fullest in an arena full of haters, mayweather coming out to another one bites the dust, bein carried like a black gawd :mjcry: it was beautiful. I loved gatti to, but that beating was....i mean i cant even describe it. I had seen Gatti against de la hoya, ward etc, but he got his punches in, no nikka, mayweather beat the shyt out of him. My other fav fight was the judah fight for the black fukkery that took place. Not to mention, Judah stuck mayweather viciously and arguably scored a knockdown. I was legit scared of judah but mayweather adjusted. see thats the thing, its not the speed, or the power or the defense, its the intelligence, the IQ, you cant beat this guy. Dude fought everyone available, im of the position he didint duck anyone, especially not margarito who was honestly no better than carlos baldomir.

His brittle hands got the best of him sadly. and you started seeing him forcing himsef to play it safe, he had to adjust his whole style because of it, which sucked but i still loved it. Mayweather is one of those guys who never fell off, but you have to wonder with him being so good at boxing how hell deal with regular life. I just hope he stays on the right track.

Ill get to the other fighters in a sec i need to make breakfast for my woman and son as i promised :mjcry: i love having my family again.
 

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David Tua was a guy i never enjoyed watching. his chin was so sturdy so you knew he wasnt getting knocked out, but his punch output was sluggish as fukk. he would always get stuck on these don king shyt cards that were boring as fukk. cept....when he knocked out ruiz it was hilarious, however his fight with Ibeabuchi was .....well thats the one fight i can say i did enjoy that, but jesus christ nikka, i hated chris byrd, hes an admirable guy whom as a person and skills wise he did what he could with what he had, but his style WAS NOT fun to watch. Unlike Rigo and Floyd dude was honestly just trying to score points, its hard to explain, but tuas match with chris byrd and further fights really made me dislike watching him. He was like a heavyweight rocky juarez.

Speaking of juarez, you ever seen somebody just not give a fukk about anything ever? that nikka gotta be the calmest nikka ever. Tua is like tthat to me, always trying to get that one fukking shot.

Sugar Shane at one point was such a beast i wasnt sure how anyone could possibly beat him. but at the time in 1998 i was boxing and my coach had told me that shane really lacked head movement and liked to admire his punches, for all his speed, he had virtually no defense. Looking back his resume at the lighter weights was super thin, john john and leija etc that first de la hoya fight really put him on the map however.

his KO streak was still a sight to behold. I didint see the fights with vernon forrest until later because of my time in the military. I actually didint get to see a shane fight until i saw him fight winky wright and it pretty much showed that his demon was a tall guy with any kind of jab and movement. Hes so complacent, and his power didint carry over into the higher weights for the most part, to me his highlight was beating de la hoya, then robbing de la hoya in the second fight (lol oscar won that shyt) but easily and this has to be said, demolishing Vargas and Margarito. Mosley and Nazim deserve congressional medals for ending the margarito train. I was on boxingscene heavy in 06-07-08 you guys have no idea how hyped that guy was it was nuts and fukking annoying. I mean this is when me and @Knicksman20 were in constant contact via PM because the racism was so heavy. I honestly thought shane was gonna get stopped but when they found the shyt in the gloves, i couldnt believe it. When you saw margrito you didint see that machismo, he didint look confident and proceeded to get his sorry cheating ass beat.

You have to give mosley credit for this, he almost had me crying in the car in may of 2010. When mayweather caught that overhand stray it told you ALOT about floyd and how smart he is, he hung on for dear life, jesus christ, and then proceeded to keep fighting. People talk about floyd "only cares about his 0" you damn right he does, and he was willin to do whatver to keep it, including hold, counter, go to the body and had mosley winded later int he fight, Nazim almost threw in the fukking towel.

TO THIS DAY nikkas SWEAR mayweather avoided shane, "i wanna spend time with my family, and my tooth bruh" fukk up nikka. I liked shane, i still do, but its honestly time for him to hang it up. His defects were there in 97, they are worse in 16, its been over 20 years, i just want him to stop and save his health.

Also, yall remember them depositions about balco, how in one video he was answering questions and then in the next, he had on these glasses, i cant really explain why its so funny but someone on the :hamster: had me dying with their breakdown.
 
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breaking down andrew golota is something i cant do, i never enjoyed his fights so how about i break down another fighter who like jae millz, i thought had next. Francisco Bojado, i saw this guy and he was beautiful, and i mean that, beautiful. I have NEVER seen a mexican with such tools, head movement, upper body movement, footwork, combinations, the shoulder roll. This guy was...i mean, i just dont understand yall, HE HAD IT ALL!!!! HE WAS THE CHOSEN ONE!!! i forgot why, but mayweather wasnt available to train him against his fight aginst fukking JESSE JAMES LEIJA, LEIJA PEOPLE WHAT THE fukk. And buddy "YOU LOSIN THE FIGHT BABY" stepped in and somehow managed to fukk up a cup of coffe (word to joe pesci) and he hasnt been the same. Awhile back, when i had a membership on this boxing torrent site, i used to download interview videos and documentaries etc, i really enjoyed that stuff. Bojado in like i think 07 or 08 was talking that comeback shyt. keep in mind youtube was in its infancy so you sort of still could get better interviews off these torrents and indy guys. i never really heard from him again after that Leija loss. I asked someone who i know knew him and i asked "what happened" nikka told me "fuddruckers or in and out went 24 hours" in other words, like his cousin fernando, weight was an issue. Unlike Broner who i never believed in, Bojado really did have "it" he wasnt a copycat, he was a schooled fighter far better than vargas, but just didint have the work ethic.
 

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@Cole Cash when you have time...the Punisher and Carlos Molina

Carlos Molina? the guy who recently lost to broner? i cant really say much bout him honestly.

Punisher however i can. I got a good look at punisher because he was talking major shyt on boxingtalk etc, one issue i had with him when i saw him against some bum on some undercard in 2006 was that for all his volume punching there wasnt alot behind it and he has the same issue de la hoya has, which is fighting to a smaller guys height, he never used his fukking height, he woulld crouch and fight downward. His fight against mitchell and the first quintana fight showed that as well. I NEVER saw him as a threat to mayweather because his defense was too fukking leaky and his chin was too available. Yea he knocked out carlos in the second fight but it was fukking quintana a guy he should have never been struggling with. Him beating margarito should have put him into much bigger heights than it did, it should have been him against cotto for the summer, instead, quintana sort derailed what should have been. But the martinez fights they took alot out of him and he was slowing down, i saw that fight against lara (i still had cable) and he clearly was losing a step. i mean in a big way. It hurt me to see him paralyzed in that accident. He was a good dude. His win against winky wright was one of his most credible and put wright into retirement in my opinion. He would have likely been stopped by Canelo because the way lara was tagging him it was clear he was done. before the accident.
 

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Carlos Molina? the guy who recently lost to broner? i cant really say much bout him honestly.

Punisher however i can. I got a good look at punisher because he was talking major shyt on boxingtalk etc, one issue i had with him when i saw him against some bum on some undercard in 2006 was that for all his volume punching there wasnt alot behind it and he has the same issue de la hoya has, which is fighting to a smaller guys height, he never used his fukking height, he woulld crouch and fight downward. His fight against mitchell and the first quintana fight showed that as well. I NEVER saw him as a threat to mayweather because his defense was too fukking leaky and his chin was too available. Yea he knocked out carlos in the second fight but it was fukking quintana a guy he should have never been struggling with. Him beating margarito should have put him into much bigger heights than it did, it should have been him against cotto for the summer, instead, quintana sort derailed what should have been. But the martinez fights they took alot out of him and he was slowing down, i saw that fight against lara (i still had cable) and he clearly was losing a step. i mean in a big way. It hurt me to see him paralyzed in that accident. He was a good dude. His win against winky wright was one of his most credible and put wright into retirement in my opinion. He would have likely been stopped by Canelo because the way lara was tagging him it was clear he was done. before the accident.

The other carlos molina breh..the one at 154 that held a belt there and that could box lol
 
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