As the AB deal looks likely to go through, Stans all over social media are in #shambles

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I ain’t read all the Stan arguing posts but anyone in here can easily look at society for examples that show corporate consolidation pretty much never ends in a better story for the consumer.
 

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Breh you don’t think Sony would've have brought activision/blizzard if they could afford to? And definitely would have made cod exclusive
Nah, I honestly don't. Sony isn't out here buying random publishers/developers, they tend to buy/acquire teams they've already worked closely with.
 

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Like Bungie :mjlol:
Any other examples? There is a reason I used the term "tend to" instead of all.

In either case, the Bungie purchase was after the Zenimax purchase. Unfortunately, it's pretty much gloves off at this point.
 

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Nah, I honestly don't. Sony isn't out here buying random publishers/developers, they tend to buy/acquire teams they've already worked closely with.
They buy what they can afford, and what strategically makes sense.

It's really that simple.

Sony and Nintendo havent been in the position to where they need to purchase 3rd party devs for content, their whole early console career they have gotten that for free by means of being A) early with tech B) being Japanese companies C) offering better features D) exclusive titles

MS was late to the market, and had a very bad rap coming off monopoly news. But they had such a strong A and D that that B and C didn't kill them.


Sony locks down games and sets the terms behind the scene. Nintendo did the same back in the NES days... It works wonder if you got what people want.


What MS is building challenges what Sony has built as a standard for themselves and that's why you see them all of a sudden spending money where they can. You can't lock up titles for years when it's owned by others. Aka them trying to lock up every single Bethesda game that has dropped in the last few years.


Nintendo has long shifted focus since the snes and playstation beef so they aren't as pressed.
 

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They buy what they can afford, and what strategically makes sense.

It's really that simple.

Sony and Nintendo havent been in the position to where they need to purchase 3rd party devs for content, their whole early console career they have gotten that for free by means of being A) early with tech B) being Japanese companies C) offering better features D) exclusive titles

MS was late to the market, and had a very bad rap coming off monopoly news. But they had such a strong A and D that that B and C didn't kill them.


Sony locks down games and sets the terms behind the scene. Nintendo did the same back in the NES days... It works wonder if you got what people want.


What MS is building challenges what Sony has built as a standard for themselves and that's why you see them all of a sudden spending money where they can. You can't lock up titles for years when it's owned by others. Aka them trying to lock up every single Bethesda game that has dropped in the last few years.


Nintendo has long shifted focus since the snes and playstation beef so they aren't as pressed.
Good post. Only thing I don't agree with is M$ being the little guy this whole time. They were killing shyt during the 360 days. Maybe not in Japan, but everywhere else. Xbox has had plenty of exclusives, let's not act like they weren't in on the party.
 

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Good post. Only thing I don't agree with is M$ being the little guy this whole time. They were killing shyt during the 360 days. Maybe not in Japan, but everywhere else. Xbox has had plenty of exclusives, let's not act like they weren't in on the party.

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They were the little guy only in the aspect of being new and having zero market cap coming into a japanese dominated sector. The money and resources though... yeah Big fish in that aspect. But even that was kinda neutered with them coming off all the monopoly lawsuits and over all negative press.

But yeah in the 360 days they caught there stride, even with the RROD they was still mad popular. I was working at GS at the time part time and I remember people would coming in with a RROD system try to trade it in, we tell them we can't take it they'd leave it with us and straight up by another one lol.

Also people forget but this was the era that western gaming really started to catch on and was mad trendy. Even japan was trying to capture the western audience, truthfully they still want that "murican" audience that xbox has, just like xbox wants that japanese audience PS/nintendo got. Anyway Western RPGS were mad popular around this time and a huge part of that is because xbox was making deals to get these games on console 1st and then pc.

I'm a gamer and if not for xbox I would still probably hate on WRPG thoroughly, before the success of morrowind I don't think your average console gamer was rocking with WRPG like that at all. If fact if most console gamers look back, they'll probably fine they started playing WRPG because of xbox.

All that aside, even with almost everything going perfect for them, they were still an american company in a japanese dominated space, so doing well world wide is great but you kinda need the home team to rock with you, even if it's only just a little bit.

Japan doesn't like MS, just like they don't like Samsung, samsung has tried for decades to break through, but they did some stuff Japan didn't like decades ago and Japan has moved on and still hasn't forgotten.

All the marketing in the world isn't going to help Xbox in japan until they get some publishers to drop something that's popular and exclusive to xbox...and consistently and they don't want to go the route of exclusive deals meaning either they going to have to change their stance on that even if its only for Japan or buy studios/publisher out there or at the very least some kind of exclusive partnership.
 
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