Maga hates Clark now so lets see the WNBA ratings this year
As a whole, the NBA has lost around 45% of its viewership since 2012.
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Maga hates Clark now so lets see the WNBA ratings this year
HandyWithTheSteel
Superstar
ONCE AGAIN IF WE
HAPPEN TO AGREE ON THE SAME TOPIC
SO fukkING WHAT.
IM NOT GOING TO DENY
THE WORLD IS ROUND BECAUSE
A RIGHT WINGER SAID THE WORLD IS ROUND.
Who gives a fukk about right wingers? His stats were incorrect.
He’s telling you the world is flat and you’re agreeing because you want to believe round earth is trash.
ONCE AGAIN IF WE
HAPPEN TO AGREE ON THE SAME THINGS
SO fukkING WHAT.
IM NOT GOING TO DENY
THE WORLD IS ROUND BECAUSE
A RIGHT WINGERS SAID THE WORLD IS ROUND.
Because they have a clear bad faith agenda when it comes to content they push about the NBA and it has very little to do with what’s happening on the court
And on top of that the numbers they posted have a clear flaw in them
THIS THREAD WAS MADE WEEKS AGO
AND DIED WEEKS AGO...
YA BOY GIL WOKE UP THIS MORNING
AND RANDOMLY MADE SOME
COLIN COWHERD THREAD
WITH SOME QUOTE ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS
TO TO DEFLECT FROM THE
'72 MISSED THREES" AND "HOW CAN YOU
MAKE THE NBA BETTER" THREADS
ON THE FRONT PAGE
SO I MERGED THEM.
AS I SAID nikkaS
PULLING UP RIGHT WING shyt
OUT OF THE BLUE TO DEFLECT
NBA CRITICISM
THIS THREAD WAS MADE WEEKS AGO
AND DIED WEEKS AGO...
YA BOY GIL WOKE UP THIS MORNING
AND RANDOMLY MADE SOME
COLIN COWHERD THREAD
WITH SOME QUOTE ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS
TO TO DEFLECT FROM THE
'72 MISSED THREES" AND "HOW CAN YOU
MAKE THE NBA BETTER" THREADS
ON THE FRONT PAGE
SO I MERGED THEM.
AS I SAID nikkaS
PULLING UP RIGHT WING shyt
OUT OF THE BLUE TO DEFLECT
NBA CRITICISM
Probably made a thread about it bc the Cowherd quote went viral on Twitter yesterday with a bunch of cacs co-signing the shyt, y’all have let much dumber threads rock
Probably made a thread about it bc the Cowherd quote went viral on Twitter yesterday with a bunch of cacs co-signing the shyt, y’all have let much dumber threads rock
EXACTLY VIRAL WITH A BUNCH OF CACS
THAT NOBODY ON THIS SITE
PAYS ATTENTION TO.
YOU nikkaS SEEKING THAT shyt OUT
TO DEFLECT
EXACTLY VIRAL WITH A BUNCH OF CACS
THAT NOBODY ON THIS SITE
PAYS ATTENTION TO.
YOU nikkaS SEEKING THAT shyt OUT
TO DEFLECT
I didn’t seek anything out, it came across my For You page as most viral sports tweets do and I read the discourse around it
How did you find the article this thread was based on?
FukkaPaidEmail
Retired Hoodrat whisperer
The white people cowherd are talking about never watched the NBA to begin with .
They are/were apart of the college basketball is better then the NBA crew.
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Also the Caitlyn Clark parallel ppl are trying to make is stupid…nobody has an issue with her launching threes just like nikkas don’t have a problem with Steph or Dame doing it ….
nikkas have a problem with Jaden Ivey or Jalen Green putting up 8-10 threes in a game
They are/were apart of the college basketball is better then the NBA crew.
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Also the Caitlyn Clark parallel ppl are trying to make is stupid…nobody has an issue with her launching threes just like nikkas don’t have a problem with Steph or Dame doing it ….
nikkas have a problem with Jaden Ivey or Jalen Green putting up 8-10 threes in a game
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
Steve Kerr and Steph Curry need to retire.While true, we have to find a medium somewhere or else we'll get this more and more
Hornets And Bulls Make Unwanted NBA History By Combining For A Record 75 Missed Threes
History was made when the Charlotte Hornets took on the Chicago Bulls on Friday at United Center, but not the kind that either team would have wanted. The Hornets and Bulls missed 75 threes combined in that contest in Chicago and according to NBA analyst Nate Duncan, that set a new record for...www.yardbarker.com
And the Celtics need to be beat because they are spearheading this bullshyt. All they do is shoot 3’s. It’s going to take a team beating the teams that win in order for the leave to change. If D’Antoni would’ve won titles when he was in Phoenix, teams would’ve adopted this style of play sooner. But they never won anything. Until Golden State started winning.
I ALREADY SAID WEEKS AGO
THEY BROUGHT IT UP
AND MA$E AND CAMS SHOW
I don't know enough about how ratings are processed and calculated at this point to have an informed opinion on that. The league seems to be generating plenty of revenue via sponsorship deals, expansion into international markets, and tv deals. I don't think the league is unpopular, and I think the stars are still incredibly popular on the global scale.
That said, I do think people have a point in the thread with the parallel between Kamala's campaign, mainstream liberal orthodox thinking, and the conversation about the NBA: you have to stop letting the foils set the agenda. Just because racist Yaqubians were claiming Kamala wasn't really black and making up lies about her and generally advance regressive, nihilistic, hateful views and policies doesn't mean one can't recognize that she didn't run "a flawless campaign" and that in many respects she ran an embarrassing one. You can't let racist Yaqubians talk you into investing in bad product out of a misguided sense of defiance. That's a loss.
Similarly, I don't buy the gloom and doom talk about the NBA, and I recognize the critiques of the league are rooted largely in racism. So I block out the bad faith critiques. I take it as a given that the racist people are going to do what they do and I ignore that. Because I think there really are a lot of people who have obsessively followed the sport and the league forever, and who find the product less compelling now. And I don't think they're angry with the players, so much as they're pushing back against the front office dorks who believe the data always knows the truth, and that people themselves never understand what they're talking about, or how they feel.
I have been watching (on the busy nights of the schedule) 3-7 NBA games for years. This year I might watch 2 on average. I certainly don't hate black dudes and I couldn't love the sport of basketball more. But, fukk, the product just isn't hittin for me right now. I can pinpoint when I got really concerned - December 1. The 17-3 Cavs beat the 15-4 Celtics. Close game. Talent galore on the court. There were 18 FTs over the final 34 seconds. It was painful to watch. The Cavs decided to eliminate the 3 as an option, even up 4, on every trip down. The three point shot and its attendant strategic shifts (to create and prevent 3 point opportunities) have obviously altered the way the game looks, and how it flows. The NBA offenses and defenses might be the most complex we've ever seen in many ways. That doesn't mean people are wrong to dislike how it plays out.
I think there's a difference between hating the sport and its players and pointing out the product goes through peaks and valleys of being engaging. Sports - at their best - are not entertainment; but they do have to be entertaining. Part of what makes sports entertaining is unpredictability. Another major component is that athletes are, in a sense, brilliant artists. We want to see them - like musicians - do naturally cool and brilliant things live that we could never do. A lot of the strategy right now has sacrificed unpredictability and artistry at the altar of efficiency. Some people are fine with that. I find the product to be dulled. I think this is the same with baseball. A lot of traditional baseball strategy was stupid, but it also added the element of unpredictability to the watching experience, and gave people more to argue about (which, like it or not, it a part of what makes sports engaging). The Three True Outcomes style of baseball, and the inning limits for starters have sucked a lot of the fun - some good fun, some stupid fun) out of the game.
As the dude from that tweet articulated in an essay he wrote years ago, sometimes solving a sport's inefficiencies can ruin what made the sport enjoyable. The athletes being reduced to automatons - as means to number-crunchers' desired ends - is just not a winning formula. And here's the thing about sports and politics: if the people are telling you "I don't like this" you can't keep throwing data in their faces saying "your feelings are wrong" and expect to come out on top. That's not how those arenas work. The consumers' feelings matter a lot, actually, and have to be considered. This isn't an argument in the classroom - you need buy-in from the audience. Pedantic scolding will not carry the day for you here. "Look at this graphic - I will prove to you that your emotions are mathematically unsound" is an extremely shortsighted tact to take.
It's important to remember we have this style of basketball in large part because the NBA rules were tweaked years ago because the product was stale and ugly. And now it feels the correction has become an overcorrection. Rules might have to be changed again. Analytics is unquestionably important in allowing people in the league and in the audience better understand the complexities of the sport. But there has to be strategic and complex thinking about the entertainment appeal as well. There's a balance to strike. Especially in this country where entertainment as sports is gaining a stronger foothold (Jake Paul being the extreme example, UFC being the major "sport" example, and NFL being the example of the perfect American sports product that actually fails upward because of its essential ingredients), you can't forget that sports that aren't purely entertainment have to at least remember to be entertaining to its fans. The NBA does have some reasons for concern to that end.
That said, I do think people have a point in the thread with the parallel between Kamala's campaign, mainstream liberal orthodox thinking, and the conversation about the NBA: you have to stop letting the foils set the agenda. Just because racist Yaqubians were claiming Kamala wasn't really black and making up lies about her and generally advance regressive, nihilistic, hateful views and policies doesn't mean one can't recognize that she didn't run "a flawless campaign" and that in many respects she ran an embarrassing one. You can't let racist Yaqubians talk you into investing in bad product out of a misguided sense of defiance. That's a loss.
Similarly, I don't buy the gloom and doom talk about the NBA, and I recognize the critiques of the league are rooted largely in racism. So I block out the bad faith critiques. I take it as a given that the racist people are going to do what they do and I ignore that. Because I think there really are a lot of people who have obsessively followed the sport and the league forever, and who find the product less compelling now. And I don't think they're angry with the players, so much as they're pushing back against the front office dorks who believe the data always knows the truth, and that people themselves never understand what they're talking about, or how they feel.
I have been watching (on the busy nights of the schedule) 3-7 NBA games for years. This year I might watch 2 on average. I certainly don't hate black dudes and I couldn't love the sport of basketball more. But, fukk, the product just isn't hittin for me right now. I can pinpoint when I got really concerned - December 1. The 17-3 Cavs beat the 15-4 Celtics. Close game. Talent galore on the court. There were 18 FTs over the final 34 seconds. It was painful to watch. The Cavs decided to eliminate the 3 as an option, even up 4, on every trip down. The three point shot and its attendant strategic shifts (to create and prevent 3 point opportunities) have obviously altered the way the game looks, and how it flows. The NBA offenses and defenses might be the most complex we've ever seen in many ways. That doesn't mean people are wrong to dislike how it plays out.
I think there's a difference between hating the sport and its players and pointing out the product goes through peaks and valleys of being engaging. Sports - at their best - are not entertainment; but they do have to be entertaining. Part of what makes sports entertaining is unpredictability. Another major component is that athletes are, in a sense, brilliant artists. We want to see them - like musicians - do naturally cool and brilliant things live that we could never do. A lot of the strategy right now has sacrificed unpredictability and artistry at the altar of efficiency. Some people are fine with that. I find the product to be dulled. I think this is the same with baseball. A lot of traditional baseball strategy was stupid, but it also added the element of unpredictability to the watching experience, and gave people more to argue about (which, like it or not, it a part of what makes sports engaging). The Three True Outcomes style of baseball, and the inning limits for starters have sucked a lot of the fun - some good fun, some stupid fun) out of the game.
As the dude from that tweet articulated in an essay he wrote years ago, sometimes solving a sport's inefficiencies can ruin what made the sport enjoyable. The athletes being reduced to automatons - as means to number-crunchers' desired ends - is just not a winning formula. And here's the thing about sports and politics: if the people are telling you "I don't like this" you can't keep throwing data in their faces saying "your feelings are wrong" and expect to come out on top. That's not how those arenas work. The consumers' feelings matter a lot, actually, and have to be considered. This isn't an argument in the classroom - you need buy-in from the audience. Pedantic scolding will not carry the day for you here. "Look at this graphic - I will prove to you that your emotions are mathematically unsound" is an extremely shortsighted tact to take.
It's important to remember we have this style of basketball in large part because the NBA rules were tweaked years ago because the product was stale and ugly. And now it feels the correction has become an overcorrection. Rules might have to be changed again. Analytics is unquestionably important in allowing people in the league and in the audience better understand the complexities of the sport. But there has to be strategic and complex thinking about the entertainment appeal as well. There's a balance to strike. Especially in this country where entertainment as sports is gaining a stronger foothold (Jake Paul being the extreme example, UFC being the major "sport" example, and NFL being the example of the perfect American sports product that actually fails upward because of its essential ingredients), you can't forget that sports that aren't purely entertainment have to at least remember to be entertaining to its fans. The NBA does have some reasons for concern to that end.
Taking the MAGA nut portion of it out, speaking for myself my stance generally in all the 50-11 threads about the NBA’s ratings have never been that this is a perfect product above critique or that people are wrong for losing interest, there’s a lot of areas that can be improved upon to me.
From the way the media covers the game to end of games dragging, freedom of movement rules that punish defenders, giving players techs for showing emotion, stripping value from divisions which hurts rivalries from forming, ASW going from a fun tradition to a complete joke, etc.
Where I push back at is the doom & gloom like the NBA is on its deathbed, people acting like there’s one singular reason why NBA ratings are down and nostalgia driven false narratives that minimize the great talent we do have in the league today
I think the noise is too loud for no changes to be made from the NBA, you have to give people something
From the way the media covers the game to end of games dragging, freedom of movement rules that punish defenders, giving players techs for showing emotion, stripping value from divisions which hurts rivalries from forming, ASW going from a fun tradition to a complete joke, etc.
Where I push back at is the doom & gloom like the NBA is on its deathbed, people acting like there’s one singular reason why NBA ratings are down and nostalgia driven false narratives that minimize the great talent we do have in the league today
I think the noise is too loud for no changes to be made from the NBA, you have to give people something
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
I think this is why I am dismissive of most of the posters on the forum complaining. Their criticisms is largely from the NBA not being like it was when they were young, while at the same time they shyt on older eras because they didn’t see it, and the current era because it wasn’t their era. Nostalgia isn’t a real reason, especially since that era was seen as a nadir.
the rest of your post is on point and I think ruthless efficiency can be boring. I also think nba players are too polished, which I think is why Anthony Edwards is popular. He not from the basketball factory that is now most NBA players. His game is even kind of different.
I do think the NBA needs a change and I’m not sure what it is, but I don’t take most of what this forum says with any seriousness since they think 70-69 games is ideal ball.
Do people really think that though? I feel like all these same people liked the playoffs in the late 2000s. I feel like there’s nostalgia for the originality of the players from back in the day and their creativity but not necessarily the guys who surrounded them.
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