As a Math Atheist...

[Everythingg]

you need to understand to understand

Incorrect my friend. See, whether I understand whether what I said fit the definition of "curriculum" is of minimal importance. Now the existence of a Being that can destroy your body and soul? I would think that it would be of significant importance to understand if this Being exists. Wouldnt you? If not why?

 

[Everythingg]

good for you breh, help me please

Saying "help me please" doesnt tell me much. See I can help a person by giving a coat, or 5 dollars, or a piece of food. What help do you need friend?

 

[tmonster]

I would think that it would be of significant importance to understand if this Being exists.

first we would have to agree how to determine what determines existence
what do you propose?

 

[Everythingg]

first we would have to agree how to determine what determines existence
what do you propose?

Lets just see what man defines "existence" as....

1. the fact or state of living or having objective reality.

2. the state or fact of existing; being.

3. continuance in being or life


Ok. Going by these three definitions (if you disagree you can butt in) do you agree that existence is a state of being and living?

 

[tmonster]

Lets just see what man defines "existence" as....

1. the fact or state of living or having objective reality.

2. the state or fact of existing; being.

3. continuance in being or life


Ok. Going by these three definitions (if you disagree you can butt in) do you agree that existence is a state of being and living?

those definitions are not practical enough
can you categorize things we can both agree exist?
like this computer keyboard I am typing we can both agree exist, right?

 

[Everythingg]

those definitions are not practical enough
can you categorize things we can both agree exist?
like this computer keyboard I am typing we can both agree exist, right?

Yes if you are typing on a keyboard, it exists. It has a state of being. But it doesnt have life. So those definitions do fit.

How is it not practical again?

 

[tmonster]

Yes if you are typing on a keyboard, it exists. It has a state of being. But it doesnt have life. So those definitions do fit.

How is it not practical again?

well being alive and existing are two different things
what what you stated was this

I would think that it would be of significant importance to understand if this Being exists.

Do you want to change it to this

I would think that it would be of significant importance to understand if this Being is alive.

or this

I would think that it would be of significant importance to understand if this Being exists and is alive.

 

[Everythingg]

well being alive and existing are two different things
what what you stated was this


Do you want to change it to this


or this

Im not changing anything friend. So two of the definitions contain "living" and you say its not the same as existing...


I mean are you saying that you dont exist? :

 

[tmonster]

Im not changing anything friend. So two of the definitions contain "living" and you say its not the same as existing...

Do rocks exist?
Are rocks alive?

I mean are you saying that you dont exist? :

I don't see how you can come to that question

 

[Everythingg]

Do rocks exist?
Are rocks alive?

The better question would be do you exist? Are you alive?

I don't see how you can come to that question

So you exist and you're not alive? Or you're alive but do not exist? Since you said they are two different things

 

[tmonster]

The better question would be do you exist? Are you alive?

that is not the better question, given our search for a mutual and objective understanding of existence, ontologically speaking it is the worst question you could ask.

So you exist and you're not alive? Or you're alive but do not exist? Since you said they are two different things

you can only answer this question and be deemed fit to carry this conversation if you can answer the two questions I just asked

to wit, I will ask one last time

Do rocks exist?
Are rocks alive?

 

[Everythingg]

that is not the better question, given our search for a mutual and objective understanding of existence, ontologically speaking it is the worst question you could ask.



you can only answer this question and be deemed fit to carry this conversation if you can answer the two questions I just asked

to wit, I will ask one last time

Do rocks exist?
Are rocks alive?

Sure rocks exist but are not alive. Now let's see if you answer my question?

Do you exist?

Are you alive?

 

[tmonster]

Sure rocks exist but are not alive. Now let's see if you answer my question?

Do you exist?

Are you alive?

no, I can't answer your question
we are not done with the examination that my question was examining about your original question

So to continue, given the last statement

Sure rocks exist but are not alive.

1. Are you admitting that Existing and being alive are not mutually inclusive and are not reversibly mutually inclusive or exclusive?
ie being alive guarantees existence but existing does not guarantee being alive


2. and hence do you want to modify your original statement for clear examination?
to wit
what what you stated was this

I would think that it would be of significant importance to understand if this Being exists.

Do you want to change it to this

I would think that it would be of significant importance to understand if this Being is alive.

or this

I would think that it would be of significant importance to understand if this Being exists and is alive.

after answering this, then we can start looking into how we decide how to what exists or does not exist

 

[Everythingg]

no, I can't answer your question
we are not done with the examination that my question was examining about your original question

No no no my friend. I answered your question now can you answer mine?

Do you exist?

Are you alive ?

If you don't want to answer a question pertaining to you let's ask:

Do dolphins exist?

Are dolphins alive?

This has EVERYTHING to do with my original statement friend. But even if it didn't, I would expect you to be man enough to answer my questions after complaining about me not answering yours. That's fair to expect if you, correct My brother?

 

[tmonster]

No no no my friend. I answered your question now can you answer mine?

Do you exist?

Are you alive ?

If you don't want to answer a question pertaining to you let's ask:

Do dolphins exist?

Are dolphins alive?

This has EVERYTHING to do with my original statement friend. But even if it didn't, I would expect you to be man enough to answer my questions after complaining about me not answering yours. That's fair to expect if you, correct My brother?

nope sorry
we are not going to do that
your claims will have to be fully defended out here