As A Democratic-Socialist Is It Wrong That We Need To Put A Temp Ban On Muslims? (EX. Radical Islam)

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Some would disagree and say that the amnesty bill simply just attracted more illegal immigrants.
Because employers were still giving green cards out like candy along with the 1986 act that gave people amnesty.

All I'm saying is in 2016 with immigration actually down and enforcement alot better than the past might as well give these people a better process to gain actual citizenship than trying to get messy going the other way.
 

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Because employers were still giving green cards out like candy along with the 1986 act that gave people amnesty.

All I'm saying is in 2016 with immigration actually down and enforcement alot better than the past might as well give these people a better process to gain actual citizenship than trying to get messy going the other way.
Green cards and illegal immigration aren't one and the same though. People who crossed the border illegally were doing so for a myriad of reasons, some of which includes gaining employment and for others it is/was an opportunity to exploit the financial safety net hence the term "anchor baby."

Either way, granting citizenship isn't about preventing illegal border crossing, it's more so about identifying those who are already here and making a "humane" effort to work with them. OTH, some people are against that because they believe that it "rewards" bad behavior, and to some extent encourages more people to cross illegally. Both have a point to it IMO, and I'm pretty conservative. Do you send people back and break up families? Do you grant them citizenship, thereby "rewarding" them for their actions and unintentionally invite more illegal crossings? I don't know.

I personally am against granting citizenship on the legal principle of not only because I think that it rewards bad behavior, but because I have friends who are immigrants who have come here legally...and they are struggling through the process to become legal citizens. Many of them have worked here legally as immigrants and have formally educated themselves and they have no one looking out for them.
 

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Green cards and illegal immigration aren't one and the same though. People who crossed the border illegally were doing so for a myriad of reasons, some of which includes gaining employment and for others it is/was an opportunity to exploit the financial safety net hence the term "anchor baby."

Either way, granting citizenship isn't about preventing illegal border crossing, it's more so about identifying those who are already here and making a "humane" effort to work with them. OTH, some people are against that because they believe that it "rewards" bad behavior, and to some extent encourages more people to cross illegally. Both have a point to it IMO, and I'm pretty conservative. Do you send people back and break up families? Do you grant them citizenship, thereby "rewarding" them for their actions and unintentionally invite more illegal crossings? I don't know.

I personally am against granting citizenship on the legal principle of not only because I think that it rewards bad behavior, but because I have friends who are immigrants who have come here legally...and they are struggling through the process to become legal citizens. Many of them have worked here legally as immigrants and have formally educated themselves and they have no one looking out for them.
Good point
 

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It has to be.stopped...

But we should start with bill Clinton dumb ass wet feet, dry feet policy that allowed cubans to stay once they reach American land.... deport those fukks back first... u do it to Haitians and Mexicans crossing the border...

Stopped that shyt with everyone..
 

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It has to be.stopped...

But we should start with bill Clinton dumb ass wet feet, dry feet policy that allowed cubans to stay once they reach American land.... deport those fukks back first... u do it to Haitians and Mexicans crossing the border...

Stopped that shyt with everyone..
Did they get legalized? If they did they have to stay and I have no issue with that. What we mean is illegals. I have no issue with them personally, so I don't know why you calling them fukks :mjlol:
 

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If it was africa immigrants sneaking in you wouldn't be thinking like that though :sas2:
If it were Africans breaking into the U.S the border would've been secured a very long time ago. If it were millions of Black people trying to hop the border to come into the U.S, nobody would give a fukk about the conditions they were trying to escape. But yet when it comes to Mexicans we have to hear endless sob stories about why they should be allowed to break the law to come here.

If this was an African girl with very dark skin and kinky hair, would there be as much sympathy for her parents being in the country illegally?
 
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But its not, so whats your point?

hmm what could my point be ? what could it possibly be , maybe the point is if the tables were reversed you wouldn't be in this thread bytching about mexicans coming in this country illegally

but since its not , hey lets all vote for trump maybe that will help against racism maybe that will help you get better jobs :heh:
 
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If it were Africans breaking into the U.S the border would've been secured a very long time ago. If it were millions of Black people trying to hop the border to come into the U.S, nobody would give a fukk about the conditions they were trying to escape. But yet when it comes to Mexicans we have to hear endless sob stories about why they should be allowed to break the law to come here.

If this was an African girl with very dark skin and kinky hair, would there be as much sympathy for her parents being in the country illegally?


that wasn't the question :ufdup:

the question was would you be in here crying the same way if it was african's sneaking into this country? yes or no

and let me add if you are losing jobs to immigrants you lost in life :umad:
 

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that wasn't the question :ufdup:

the question was would you be in here crying the same way if it was african's sneaking into this country? yes or no

and let me add if you are losing jobs to immigrants you lost in life :umad:
Your question is irrelevant. Millions of Africans would NEVER be allowed to consistently break into the country.
 
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