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I personally don't want the Jews to be kiced out. I'm just not comfortable with the necessity of it having to be a Jewish state exclusively.
Yea, well Muslims have muslim states exclusively and you know how they did it, by dropping thangs on people that didnt agree. You can make land whatever you want it to be, as long a you have the power to hold it, and they have that power.
 

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Yea, well Muslims have muslim states exclusively and you know how they did it, by dropping thangs on people that didnt agree. You can make land whatever you want it to be, as long a you have the power to hold it, and they have that power.

They have that power because they have a stranglehold on our government which will keep it in power no matter what. That's a phony country with an even phonier identity. The population in muslim countries are the same people who have been there for thousands of years, the Jews in israel are European transplants. It is a bullshyt country.
 

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They have that power because they have a stranglehold on our government which will keep it in power no matter what. That's a phony country with an even phonier identity. The population in muslim countries are the same people who have been there for thousands of years, the Jews in israel are European transplants. It is a bullshyt country.
By that logic, isnt america a bullshyt country. If them cacs in Israel have these cacs in America by the balls to give them that power, so be it. Whos going to stop them? See i think you're getting to emotionally invested in this when the world doesnt really work like that. It works, based on POWER!

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You've already checked out of this discussion mentally. Get your shyt together you frail fakkit. I dont have time to play dozens with your bytch ass.
lol...who's playing the dozens? You being the white-washed Christian fundie that you are, I was wondering if your support of Israel was related to your desire for the return of your precious white man on a popsicle stick. No need to start snapping your fingers and twirling your neck.
 

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By that logic, isnt america a bullshyt country. If them cacs in Israel have these cacs in America by the balls to give them that power, so be it. Whos going to stop them? See i think you're getting to emotionally invested in this when the world doesnt really work like that. It works, based on POWER!

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Yeah and we criticize the way this country was founded all the time. Israel wants to be above all criticism, that's the difference. Not to mention that this country has gone through it's share of equality movements and struggles that have made it liveable for minorities. that needs to happen in Israel.
 

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lol...who's playing the dozens? You being the white-washed Christian fundie that you are, I was wondering if your support of Israel was related to your desire for the return of your precious white man on a popsicle stick. No need to start snapping your fingers and twirling your neck.
Support. You dont understand. It doesnt matter who controls the land. What reason do i have, being an American, to be on the nuts of Palestinians? I dont understand the moral crusade you all take for those people. Why does it matter if the Palestinians get destroyed and booted off their land. Do we care about the native Americans. Would you take your musty ass back to India to give Native AMericans their land back. You are all hypocrits and if you're going to be Real Americans, you best support the expansion of this empire around the globe. :blessed:

If Palestine can get someone to care about them enough to help get them their land back good for them. Thats power. Trying to appeal to my sympathies so i can showcase some useless thoughts on the internet about how Israel is this or that is a waste of time. I respect Israel for taking what they want and keeping what they want. Thats power. If Palestine want it back me feeling sorry for them isnt going to really help their cause. Plus i just really dont care because Palestinians treat black people like shyt there like they do everywhere else. fukk um.
 
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Yeah and we criticize the way this country was founded all the time. Israel wants to be above all criticism, that's the difference. Not to mention that this country has gone through it's share of equality movements and struggles that have made it liveable for minorities. that needs to happen in Israel.
Is america a bullshyt country? Would you trade america, your home, the homes of your family/friends and your way of life to give the land back to the natives? Just stop bruh. They both hate black people and both of them wont last forever. It is what it is. Let them scrap.
 
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That's a phony country with an even phonier identity.

No Arab has ever in history referred to himself as a "Palestinian" before Zionism, and you accuse Israel of having a fake identity? :laff:

The population in muslim countries are the same people who have been there for thousands of years

Are you serious? Do you know nothing about all the Arab conquests?

the Jews in israel are European transplants. It is a bullshyt country.

Except for the fact that their European DNA ends up being not so European.

Oh, and the fact that when you combine Mizrahi Jews and Israeli Arabs you get a Middle Eastern Zionist majority.

Not to mention that this country has gone through it's share of equality movements and struggles that have made it liveable for minorities. that needs to happen in Israel.

:comeon:There are more Arabs in Israel's Knesset than Blacks in the U.S. Senate.

Do you even know the difference between a Palestinian and an Israeli Arab? :snoop:
 
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No Arab has ever referred to himself as a "Palestinian" before Zionism, and you accuse Israel of having a fake identity? :laff:



Are you serious? Do you know nothing about all the Arab conquests?



Except for the fact that their European DNA ends up being not so European.

Oh, and the fact that when you combine Mizrahi Jews and Israeli Arabs you get a Middle Eastern Zionist majority.



:comeon:There are more Arabs in Israel's Knesset than Blacks in the U.S. Senate.

Do you even know the difference between a Palestinian and an Israeli Arab? :snoop:
The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe.

Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England.

Tangled legacy





Little is known about the history of Ashkenazi Jews before they were expelled from the Mediterranean and settled in what is now Poland around the 12th century. On average, all Ashkenazi Jews are genetically as closely related to each other as fourth or fifth cousins, said Dr. Harry Ostrer, a pathology, pediatrics and genetics professor at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York and the author of "Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People" (Oxford University Press, 2012).

But depending on whether the lineage gets traced through maternal or paternal DNA or through the rest of the genome, researchers got very different answers for whether Ashkenazi originally came from Europe or the Near East.

Past research found that 50 percent to 80 percent of DNA from the Ashkenazi Y chromosome, which is used to trace the male lineage, originated in the Near East, Richards said. That supported a story wherein Jews came from Israel and largely eschewed intermarriage when they settled in Europe. [The Holy Land: 7 Amazing Archaeological Finds]

But historical documents tell a slightly different tale. Based on accounts such as those of Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, by the time of the destruction of the Second Temple in A.D. 70, as many as 6 million Jews were living in the Roman Empire, but outside Israel, mainly in Italy and Southern Europe. In contrast, only about 500,000 lived in Judea, said Ostrer, who was not involved in the new study.

"The major Jewish communities were outside Judea," Ostrer told LiveScience.

Maternal DNA

Richards and his colleagues analyzed mitochondrial DNA, which is contained in the cytoplasm of the egg and passed down only from the mother, from more than 3,500 people throughout the Near East, the Caucusus and Europe, including Ashkenazi Jews.

The team found that four founders were responsible for 40 percent of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA, and that all of these founders originated in Europe. The majority of the remaining people could be traced to other European lineages.

All told, more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to Europe, with only a few lineages originating in the Near East.

Virtually none came from the North Caucasus, located along the border between Europe and Asia between the Black and Caspian seas.

The finding should thoroughly debunk one of the most questionable, but still tenacious, hypotheses: that most Ashkenazi Jews can trace their roots to the mysterious Khazar Kingdom that flourished during the ninth century in the region between the Byzantine Empire and the Persian Empire, Richards and Ostrer said.

The genetics suggest many of the founding Ashkenazi women were actually converts from local European populations.

"The simplest explanation was that it was mainly women who converted and they married with men who'd come from the Near East," Richards told LiveScience.

Another possibility is that Jews actively converted both men and women among local populations at this time, although researchers would need more detailed study of paternal lineages to test that hypothesis, Richards said.

- See more at: http://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html#sthash.EGEIh6GU.dpuf
 
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All this means is that Ashkenazi Jews are mixed. :yeshrug:

To say that that means they're European though, is simply to not understand genetics.
 

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Support. You dont understand. It doesnt matter who controls the land. What reason do i have, being an American, to be on the nuts of Palestinians? I dont understand the moral crusade you all take for those people. Why does it matter if the Palestinians get destroyed and booted off their land. Do we care about the native Americans. Would you take your musty ass back to India to give Native AMericans their land back. You are all hypocrits and if you're going to be Real Americans, you best support the expansion of this empire around the globe. :blessed:

If Palestine can get someone to care about them enough to help get them their land back good for them. Thats power. Trying to appeal to my sympathies so i can showcase some useless thoughts on the internet about how Israel is this or that is a waste of time. I respect Israel for taking what they want and keeping what they want. Thats power. If Palestine want it back me feeling sorry for them isnt going to really help their cause. Plus i just really dont care because Palestinians treat black people like shyt there like they do everywhere else. fukk um.
Don't know why you're directing this at me because I've never been some gung-ho passionate Palestinian supporter. In the interest of what's ethical and just, I think Israel should stop building settlements, end the occupation, and return to the 1967 borders. I'm not emotionally invested in that situation though.

Not surprising that a white-washed Cac Verdean c00n descendent of slave traders who set up the supply-chain hub for the trans-Atlantic slave trade and worships a white man's God would stan an apartheid state setup by Europeans though. c00ns gon c00n. It's in your DNA.
 

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Don't know why you're directing this at me because I've never been some gung-ho passionate Palestinian supporter. In the interest of what's ethical and just, I think Israel should stop building settlements and return to the 1967 borders. I'm not emotionally invested in that situation though.

Not surprising that a white-washed Cac Verdean c00n descendent of slave traders who set up the supply-chain hub for the trans-Atlantic slave trade and worships a white man's God would stan an apartheid state setup by Europeans though. c00ns gon c00n. It's in your DNA.
Why should they stop building settlements when they want to expand and their enemy is weak and ripe to be crushed from the region indefinately.

How is it c00ning when neither of them are black. You arent making sense. You have a hard on for Palestine. Probably some remnant of some form of rebelliousness from college. fukk outta here. :camby:
 
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