Are you an undercover narcissist?

[MAKAVELI25]

Nah, people think it's a joke/positive because every nikka who took a psychologist class thinks they are qualified to call any person with an amount of confidence that they don't have/like a narcissist. (Not a shot at you in anyway)

Term has been watered down so much. It doesn't mean anything. People will treat it as such.

Could be true. But I'm just trying to point out to the posters in here that there is nothing to celebrate about narcissists, Narcissism is definitely a personality flaw and something you should be ashamed about rather than proclaim

 

[Mountain]

The funny thing is, some of you are probably proud of being narcissists. It's actually a personality flaw

c/s.

Isn't this just describing the difference between a person who is confident (acts on their desires decisively) and one who lacks confidence (refuses to act on or questions their desires)? Narcissism is instinctual because all our actions are inherently self-serving in the end even if they don't appear that way on the surface (i.e. people who help others do so because it makes them feel good and they wouldn't do it if it made them feel bad). It's only "undercover" in the sense that people don't normally use the word narcissism to describe their instinctual habits.

There is a massive difference between confidence and narcissism as a mental personality disorder.

Someone who is confidence by definition is a person who has a forthright belief in their ability, whilst a narcissist is a person who is unhealthily self absorbed due to an underlying mental disturbance (i.e. insecurity), both conditions are completely different.

You're right in saying peoples actions are typically self serving, but the difference between a narcissist and non-narcissist is that the narcissist expresses pseudo-confidence/arrogance primarily because of their insecurities (as the article above suggests) which typically causes interpersonal conflicts, whilst the non-narcissist doesn't.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Could be true. But I'm just trying to point out to the posters in here that there is nothing to celebrate about narcissists, Narcissism is definitely a personality flaw and something you should be ashamed about rather than proclaim

At the end of the day, while it may be a personality flaw, I'd rather be around a person who is loosely considered narcissist just because people wanna say such, than one with little to no self esteem or confidence (probably an even bigger flaw).

is that the narcissist expresses pseudo-confidence/arrogance primarily because of their insecurities (as the article suggests)

The article is actually talking about covert narcissist (meaning the ones that don't have the ability so their thoughts feelings are pseudo, fake, reconciliation, etc), not regular ones who actually can follow through.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

At the end of the day, while it may be a personality flaw, I'd rather be around a person who is loosely considered narcissist just because people wanna say such, than one with little to no self esteem or confidence (probably an even bigger flaw)



T.

Nowhere did I mention people who are "loosely considered narcissists". I thought my posts made it clear that when I said TRUE (as in people with narcissistic personality disorders) narcissists, I meant TRUE narcissists. True narcissists don't even care about their friends, read up on it and see if you still hold the same opinions

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Nowhere did I mention people who are "loosely considered narcissists". I thought my posts made it clear that when I said TRUE (as in people with narcissistic personality disorders) narcissists, I meant TRUE narcissists. True narcissists don't even care about their friends, read up on it and see if you still hold the same opinions

Ahhhh, true.

I take back my earlier post about being a narcissist. I love my friends til the casket drop and would do anything for them as I would many people in my life.

I'm an arrogant MF tho.

 

[ThaBoyBam]

"You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them."

“I visualized where I wanted to be, what kind of player I wanted to become. I knew exactly where I wanted to go, and I focused on getting there.”

 

[Black Magisterialness]

i'm not a covert narcissist...i'm a real one

 

[MAKAVELI25]

"You have to expect things of yourself before you can do them."

“I visualized where I wanted to be, what kind of player I wanted to become. I knew exactly where I wanted to go, and I focused on getting there.”

Read through the thread, breh. Narcissists are actually LESS secure/confident than most people. There's nothing positive about being a narcissism, like most posters you are mistaking self esteem/efficacy for narcissism

 

[MAKAVELI25]

i'm not a covert narcissist...i'm a real one

you would think most people would try to figure out what a word means before labeling themselves as such

 

[Sierra Mist]

 

[Black Magisterialness]

you would think most people would try to figure out what a word means before labeling themselves as such

no seriously...i'm a diagnosed narcissist...it was worse when i was in high school

 

[Mountain]

The article is actually talking about covert narcissist (meaning the ones that don't have the ability so their thoughts feelings are pseudo, fake, reconciliation, etc), not regular ones who actually can follow through.

I was refrencing the article gus posted about overt/arrogant narcissism disorder.

you would think most people would try to figure out what a word means before labeling themselves as such

Exactly, this is the first time ive ever heard people proudly claim to be narcissists.

Edit: No disrespect to you Klarifeye if you've actually been diagnosed with it.

 

[Justice]

I think it's more describing how different types of narcissistic people act out their own narcissism. They have an article on arrogant/overt narcissism too. According to that website, one group is extremely self-deprecating while the other is extremely conceited. There are several different definitions of narcissism though, and that site even defines a "normal" narcissism which is pretty interesting.

Here's the article on the Arrogant/Overt Narcissist:

The Arrogant/Overt Narcissist

c/s.



There is a massive difference between confidence and narcissism as a mental personality disorder.

Someone who is confidence by definition is a person who has a forthright belief in their ability, whilst a narcissist is a person who is unhealthily self absorbed due to an underlying mental disturbance (i.e. insecurity), both conditions are completely different.

You're right in saying peoples actions are typically self serving, but the difference between a narcissist and non-narcissist is that the narcissist expresses pseudo-confidence/arrogance primarily because of their insecurities (as the article above suggests) which typically causes interpersonal conflicts, whilst the non-narcissist doesn't.

Fair enough. Surly narcissism as a personality disorder and narcissism as a description of varying degrees of confidence are not the same thing. The problem I had with the way the article was written is that its broad generalizations could be describing anyone. Have you ever felt sick then, upon looking up your symptoms on the internet, thought that you were sicker than you really were? That's exactly the same phenomenon here. You have a lot of responses chiming "OMG, this describes me!" in this very thread when the fact of the matter is that everyone exhibits some of these traits at some point in their life simply as a function of being. It's not to the same degree as a classic NPD but the quoted article makes little to no distinction. You are just given a broad list of traits and categorizations with little context. It's far more nuanced than is being reported.

Let's not forget to throw Facebook Narcissists and Millennial Narcissists into the mix as well because there are never enough accusations of narcissism to go around.

 

[teeswinger]