Are Democrats finally going to stop running on a "At least we ain't Trump" campaign?

[UpAndComing]

The Democratic party post Obama has spent the last 8 years running on a "At least we ain't Trump" campaign. It's lost it's identity in Trump-mania. They are very tone-deaf on why Trump is so popular. Instead they have spent the last 4 years talking about Trump, which indirectly fuels his popularity, which makes him a "martyr" or a "victim" in the eye of his supporters

Democrats should have spent the last 4 years propping up a formidable candidate in the media that would run in 2024 that had their own fanbase, identity, message, and pop culture support


It's like The Democratic party forgot how Obama got popular in the first place . Dude was EVERYWHERE in pop culture media. Somehow the Democrats still look down on social media platforms. They need to abandon the archaic CNN type of networks. Need to have Podcast personalities to spread their message to the youth and young adults. Need to start right now by propping up a real candidate

 

[At30wecashout]

Eh, they have/had an identity. It's the party of inclusion with marginal gifts to working people.

And before a certain a$$hole gets in here talmbout LGBTQ people, unfortunately Democrats are full of everybody with every kind of issue which makes it harder to narrow things down. The only thing they have to do is not play defense all the time and focus on labor. Literally focusing on labor allows them to do a bunch of other shyt. What bunch of other shyt?

-Environmentalism
-Sustainability
-Personal freedoms that don't infringe on others
-etc

Obama was a generational talent. We can't expect those to fall out of trees but the infrastructure of information has to be built. If people keep incorrectly thinking the platform is gender identity and immigration thanks to right-wing personalities, they will continue to get edged out by an increasingly right-wing electorate. The right doesn't get tangibles, they get the right rhetoric. The left gives a little to a lot but still serves the rich. The further left got zip. No medicare for all, no election reform, etc. Returning to normalcy is pretty much a failing platform in 2024. They keep running 2000s type of campaigns that operate on rules Republicans don't play by.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

She didn't run an "at least we ain't Trump" campaign.

 

[Trav]

They have no choice...

 

[UpAndComing]

Eh, they have/had an identity. It's the party of inclusion with marginal gifts to working people.

And before a certain a$$hole gets in here talmbout LGBTQ people, unfortunately Democrats are full of everybody with every kind of issue which makes is harder to narrow things down. The only thing they have to do is not play defense all the time and focus on labor. Literally focusing on labor allows them to do a bunch of other shyt. What bunch of other shyt?

-Environmentalism
-Sustainability
-Personal freedoms that don't infringe on others
-etc

Obama was a generational talent. We can't expect those to fall out of trees but the infrastructure of information has to be built. If people keep incorrectly thinking the platform is gender identity and immigration thanks to right-wing personalities, they will continue to get edged out by an increasingly right-wing electorate. The right doesn't get tangibles, they get the right rhetoric. The left gives a little to a lot but still serves the rich. The further left got zip. No medicare for all, no election reform, etc. Returning to normalcy is pretty much a failing platform in 2024. They keep running 2000s type of campaigns that operate on rules Republicans don't play by.

That's not an identity

"Hey if you make under $1 million dollars a year, vote for me" is not a good enough reason for people to vote for you

 

[BrothaZay]

I mean Trump won’t be running in 2028 so I’m assuming so…

 

[At30wecashout]

That's not an identity

"Hey if you make under $1 million dollars a year, vote for me" is not a good enough reason for people to vote for you

I can go crazy quoting stuff, but you are validating the low information voter stigma.

They had policies. They were publicly posted. The fukking polled well! The people overwhelmingly went Trump to punish Dems for what they perceived as a poor economy. Mr. “Concepts of a plan” offered nothing tangible but he spoke loudly on things people were mad about. You dont need research to be mad. You need research to know a platform. It was there but it was rejected.

 

[lib123]

The Democratic Party is full of contradictions. While the Republicans Party is overtly commited to maintaining and strengthening White Supremacy and Wealth gaps, the Democratic Party is controlled by entities and individuals seeking to do the same while offering the masses economic crumbs, LGBT rights, legalized marijuana, racially symbolic candidates, etc to get votes. It’s fairly obvious what the Party can do to tap into the 100 million people who didn’t vote: a commitment to a living wage as the minimum wage (eg $25+ per hour), reparations of some form (eg no taxes on income earned by FBA), more subsidized housing, etc. But doing this would require taxing the wealthy individuals and entities in a major way who bankroll the Democratic Party.

 

[JT-Money]

Democrats farewell against Neocon or RINO Republicans only. I'm not so sure they can beat a Republican running on Populism and Nationalism. Democrats don't identify well with either being Globalists. I just don't see where they'll get the votes with millions choosing the couch instead.

Stick a fork in them.

 

[Arithmetic]

I mean they aren't. But it isn't enough.

 

[JT-Money]

The Democratic Party is full of contradictions. While the Republicans Party is overtly commited to maintaining and strengthening White Supremacy and Wealth gaps, the Democratic Party is controlled by entities and individuals seeking to do the same while offering the masses economic crumbs to get votes. It’s fairly obvious what the Party can do to tap into the 100 million people who didn’t vote: a commitment to a living wage as the minimum wage (eg $25+ per hour), reparations of some form (eg no taxes on income earned by FBA), more subsidized housing, etc. But doing this would require taxing the wealthy individuals and entities in a major way who bankroll the Democratic Party.

That's why I wasn't shocked when Kamala's campaign stopped her from speaking about price gouging. You can't serve two masters and Democrats have been getting away with it until now.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

The Democratic party post Obama has spent the last 8 years running on a "At least we ain't Trump" campaign. It's lost it's identity in Trump-mania. They are very tone-deaf on why Trump is so popular. Instead they have spent the last 4 years talking about Trump, which indirectly fuels his popularity, which makes him a "martyr" or a "victim" in the eye of his supporters

Democrats should have spent the last 4 years propping up a formidable candidate in the media that would run in 2024 that had their own fanbase, identity, message, and pop culture support


It's like The Democratic party forgot how Obama got popular in the first place . Dude was EVERYWHERE in pop culture media. Somehow the Democrats still look down on social media platforms. They need to abandon the archaic CNN type of networks. Need to have Podcast personalities to spread their message to the youth and young adults. Need to start right now by propping up a real candidate

I have to disagree with some of your assessment. Things really haven't changed with Democrats. Prior to Ohama, they did the same thing saying they weren't Bush, he was a warmonger etc.. The only difference now is people didn't fall for it. As for social media, Obama was the first candidate to spearhead his campaign online the way he did. I agree Democrats abandoning it is mindboggling considering how Republicans spread their messages from special interest groups to podcasts online. I mentioned in another thread it appeared they didn't even try. That's why I'm slightly disappointed with this election.

 

[Blankblank]

Democrats didn’t learn this lesson from 2016 when they ran on that same strategy. I’m not confident they’ll learn from this failure.

 

[lib123]

That's why I wasn't shocked when Kamala's campaign stopped her from speaking about price gouging. You can't serve two masters and Democrats have been getting away with it until now.

Yeah inflation has been the Democratic Party’s kryptonite. People don’t care about the other stuff they’re offering if they’re struggling to afford necessities.

 

[Cave Savage]

Democrats farewell against Neocon or RINO Republicans only. I'm not so sure they can beat a Republican running on Populism and Nationalism. Democrats don't identify well with either being Globalists. I just don't see where they'll get the votes with millions choosing the couch instead.

Stick a fork in them.

That's not true at all, the MAGAtards underperform when Trump isn't on the ballot.

And sometimes even when he is, such as Kari Lake