SheWantTheD
Veteran
Nope you’re wrong and need to stay off those bodybuilding subreddits.A lot of neophytes on here....to answer your question OP; all of them are on roids. You don't get older and stay big/shredded. A clear indicator are the capped delts and huge traps...which of course get so big due to retained water from gear.
Essentially; you can be lean and shredded, or thick and strong....not all 4. Also six packs aren't about mass (naturally), its about having less than 8% body fat....you can google this to high heaven. More plates more dates, and plenty other youtubers with experience for decades can tell you....shouldn't really be a surprise at this point. If you look like a Marvel super hero, you're on roids.
there are so many guys out here using with small traps.
With a good pump, decent body fat % and angles, you can achieve that “capped delts” look.
Go look at Broly gainz on youtube with a pump and he does mainly calisthenics and weighted calisthenics. Dude is shredded and with a pump his body looks crazy (pause)