Anyone Seen Django?

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Heads are complaining about Django not killing Leo, but I think they're missing the point. The whole film draws parallels between Dr. King and Candie as well as Django and Stephen. King's first speech compares bounty hunting to slave trade and later on Django calls King out for softening up in front of Candie after he made Django kill a man in front of his son. Django spends the movie as a student of King but he does things he's not comfortable with (playing his part in Candie land and killing the pops). Sam's character is the same way, when he drops the cane it shows that dude was faking the entire time to get what he wanted...both characters were underestimated by their "superiors" and able to take advantage of them.

In the end, King kills Candie bc he sees some of himself in the man even in so much as he really wasn't taking Django seriously at first. With Django it's a similar dynamic.

Also, I don't think QT took slavery lightly. King is a character who takes slavery lightly (again, you just gotta look at how he compares bounty hunting and then watch his reactions to the brutality). The first half of the movie it's all jokes for him and it's almost a game. By the end the dude can't get the images of brutality towards slaves out of his mind and it consumes him to the point of not even being able to shake hands with a slave owner and choosing to die instead. He's supposed to be a reflection of the audience (white audience at least). The first half of the film the audience is laughing and almost disarmed, but the treatment of slaves gets worse and worse and increasingly more ugly...they go from laughter to disgust as the story progresses...they go from really sleeping on the brutality to an eyes wide open stance where they're own mirror image within the movie dies and they don't really care as long as Django makes it. King's got a redemption story in there whereas Django's is the revenge story.

That ish is genius right there...along with some of the more overt stuff like naming a character Dr. King knowing damn well what that name represents.

Good analysis ... But I keep seeing the explanation that king despised candie so much that he couldn't shake his hand. Am I the only one who interpreted this scene completely differently? I thought king didn't want to shake candies hand because he had a gun hidden in his sleeve, and the hand shake would have revealed the gun. So when candie insisted king had to shoot him, because he was gonna be fukked either way.... Right?
 

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Good analysis ... But I keep seeing the explanation that king despised candie so much that he couldn't shake his hand. Am I the only one who interpreted this scene completely differently? I thought king didn't want to shake candies hand because he had a gun hidden in his sleeve, and the hand shake would have revealed the gun. So when candie insisted king had to shoot him, because he was gonna be fukked either way.... Right?

Nah he couldn't stand him :laugh:

And he was a sore loser
 

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I saw this movie about a week ago. I haven't really gave a review on it or really gotten into the discussion on the film itself... I'll just post some of my general thoughts on it and my take on how it played out.

I've only read a few posts in here, and I haven't read any professional critics reviews or anything like that:

-One of highlights of the movie for me was the soundtrack. I actually looked up a few of the songs online after seeing the movie, that's how much I liked it.

-I heard about Spike saying the movie is disrespectful to his ancestors before seeing it, so I was going in thinking there was going to be a lot more vulgarity then there was... I was fully expecting a rape scene (ala Rosewood)... but then after letting it settle I see that he said that because of how Tarantino sprinkled in quite a bit of comedy to go along with the seriousness of a slavery backdrop.

-The movie was entertaining, but I did think to myself at one point, "Did we really need this movie?". Yes, I know this can be said about any movie made. But I don't know, this one just felt different in that after watching it, I didn't really feel good or bad about it. I was simply indifferent. Just weird, I don't know.

-I don't really get where people who view this can be in an uproar over it. There were 2 scenes that were vicious (if you saw this you know which ones I'm referring to) but the entire movie wasn't like that. I was expecting a lot more shyt like that to be honest going in.

All in all, I think it was a good movie. Nothing mindblowing. It's hyped because of the subject matter and the director who can pretty much make light of anything in his movies and not catch flack for it. I don't really see the point of getting into deep analysis for this film, as it was pretty much a straight forward action flick to me. It's not really something I have to see again, I'm content waiting for the Blu-Ray rip to drop before viewing it again with people who haven't seen it already.

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Nah he couldn't stand him :laugh:

And he was a sore loser

I don't know man, I think people are reaching with this whole king despised candie so much he couldn't have shook his hand and walked out of there with all of their lives and broomhilda. Nothing about kings character suggested he was that irrational, in fact every indication was the opposite, that he was cautious and pre meditated. End of the day he hid a gun in his right sleeve so he couldn't shake the mans hand. He wanted to walk out with his life and when candie made it seem like he wouldn't be able to do that he said fukk it then I may as merk this cac.
 

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it's ABOUT a "bad ass" and a whole lot of over the top action. like I wouldn't say Kill Bill was about the Japanese organized crime underworld.....
Its about a "badass" slave who gets revenge on slave masters while rescuing his enslaved wife from a slave master. The entire backdrop of the movie is slavery but it's not about slavery?

Is huckleberry Finn about slavery, no. Setting =/= plot. Its that simple.


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Was Huckleberry Finn a slave? Smart-dummies I tell ya.



On another note, the Django dolls complete with the Dicaprio-slave master, Sam Jack-c00n, Kerry Washington-bed wench additions are right on time. This movie doesn't exploit or trivialize slavery though, not at all.
 

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Its about a "badass" slave who gets revenge on slave masters while rescuing his enslaved wife from a slave master. The entire backdrop of the movie is slavery but it's not about slavery?
i replied to you in my note below, but put spoiler tags around it for those who haven't watched.
to be fair, he gets revenge on the slave master brothers mainly because he ran into them due to Schultz seeking them. his goal all along was getting his wife back & nothing more.

and the dudes he was killing along with Schultz were murderers & thieves wanted by the law....not criminals wanted for owning slaves...because it wasn't a crime.

and i loved how Schultz killed Candie & not Django. he showed his loyalty to Django & how much he despised that dude. besides, he was willing to go all out for his money haha. he said "fukk this". i think it was good for the movie because Schultz kinda had to die at some point, you'd figure. it was just too good to be true, and that's how movies back then were....the teacher would die once the student made it, etc.
i just feel that it rides the thin line of being "about slavery", but it really isn't. i think it's an inaccurate assessment...not a ridiculous one or whatever, but just inaccurate.
 

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i replied to you in my note below, but put spoiler tags around it for those who haven't watched.
to be fair, he gets revenge on the slave master brothers mainly because he ran into them due to Schultz seeking them. his goal all along was getting his wife back & nothing more.

and the dudes he was killing along with Schultz were murderers & thieves wanted by the law....not criminals wanted for owning slaves...because it wasn't a crime.
i just feel that rides the thin line of being "about slavery", but it really isn't. i think it's an inaccurate assessment...not a ridiculous one or whatever, but just inaccurate.
You people are something else. Either you're all a bunch of morons, or you just like being obtuse. I'm not saying that Django is all about slavery in the historical educational context. It's a movie that has action, romance, and comedy. Still though, the entire backdrop of the movie is slavery. There's no getting around the fact that the movie is about slavery. The drivel you put in the spoiler means nothing.
 

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The part when the dr was talking about the three musketeers and sonning candie how Dumas was black was riveting
 

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Was Huckleberry Finn a slave? Smart-dummies I tell ya.

:comeon: no but jim was you ole regular dummy.

You people are something else. Either you're all a bunch of morons, or you just like being obtuse. I'm not saying that Django is all about slavery in the historical educational context. It's a movie that has action, romance, and comedy. Still though, the entire backdrop of the movie is slavery. There's no getting around the fact that the movie is about slavery. The drivel you put in the spoiler means nothing.

:wtf: a backdrop provides the setting or background to a film, which is the crux of my argument. setting =/= the focal point of the movie!!
 

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only complaint is lots of scenes just drag the fukk on for no reason and QT shoots some annoying ass scenes my lord :snoop:

*shows 30 seconds of mumbling and people walking through a room*
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You people are something else. Either you're all a bunch of morons, or you just like being obtuse. I'm not saying that Django is all about slavery in the historical educational context. It's a movie that has action, romance, and comedy. Still though, the entire backdrop of the movie is slavery. There's no getting around the fact that the movie is about slavery. The drivel you put in the spoiler means nothing.
:ld: go to hell
 

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:ohlawd: I think i just watched the best movie ever brehs :whoo:

Leo really made this movie fukking brilliant that dinner scene probably was the bestt scene in the movie shyt was fukking tense :whew:

the scene with them nigas arguing about the masks and when samuel jackson first saw django had me fukking :russ::deadrose:

i think i need to watch this masterpiece again :ahh:
 
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