Any Klitschko Fans in Here?

[Jello Biafra]

I don't get the "they don't fight big" argument. When you have a reach advantage, the goal is to keep the fight at a distance where you can connect but your opponent can't...and they do that better than anyone in history.

What does "fighting big" mean to you brehs? Hopefully not fighting inside and forcing the issue, the only place opponents have any chance against them.

If you watched the fight last night then your question should have been answered.
There is defensive fighting that can be entertaining and then there is the bullshyt Wlad pulled with Povetkin.
That is why he (and to a much lesser extent Vitali) get no live from US boxing fans. They are not entertaining fighters at all.
Truthfully I think the sooner the two of them retire the more likely the chances of the heavyweight division becoming interesting get. There is a lot to be said for parity creating the illusion of greatness and with the Klitschko's removed from the board it takes away the two biggest and most boring obstacles to us having an interesting heavyweight title picture.

 

[Jello Biafra]

lewis wasnt really big here either, i think it was his accent

none of these guys are exciting, i mean if roy jones was 6'5 i would be

My biggest gripe with Lennox was that he was too big, too skilled and too powerful to be fighting like fukking Chris Byrd.

 

[yo moms]

I don't get the "they don't fight big" argument. When you have a reach advantage, the goal is to keep the fight at a distance where you can connect but your opponent can't...and they do that better than anyone in history.

What does "fighting big" mean to you brehs? Hopefully not fighting inside and forcing the issue, the only place opponents have any chance against them.

 

[diggy]

The longer he holds the title, the longer the HW division dies...but if it dies it dies?

Noone gives a damn about the HW division anymore...Ill take a fluke win by a bum to stir shyt up for now

Whens the last time Vegas has seen a good HW PPV or anywhere on the US Soil...that people have talked about?

 

[Scottie Drippin]

If you watched the fight last night then your question should have been answered.
There is defensive fighting that can be entertaining and then there is the bullshyt Wlad pulled with Povetkin.
That is why he (and to a much lesser extent Vitali) get no live from US boxing fans. They are not entertaining fighters at all.
Truthfully I think the sooner the two of them retire the more likely the chances of the heavyweight division becoming interesting get. There is a lot to be said for parity creating the illusion of greatness and with the Klitschko's removed from the board it takes away the two biggest and most boring obstacles to us having an interesting heavyweight title picture.

This isn't about defense, or offense. This is about fighting "big". What Wlad did last night was amazingly boring...but he fought "big" at a ridiculous level. Worked his opponent with jabs and check hooks, and the second Povetkin came inside, smothered him. Tied him up. Placed his weight on him. Made him use his legs to support 240lbs, over, and over again. So much so that he had completely sapped his energy away by the sixth round without throwing a single body punch. Povetkin came in on fire, and Wlad methodically wore him down using the simplest big man fight tactics.


Fighting big is using your size to your advantage, which yes

They do better than anyone in history.

The argument against them just cannot be that they don't fight big. That's wrong.

 

[Jello Biafra]

This isn't about defense, or offense. This is about fighting "big". What Wlad did last night was amazingly boring...but he fought "big" at a ridiculous level. Worked his opponent with jabs and check hooks, and the second Povetkin came inside, smothered him. Tied him up. Placed his weight on him. Made him use his legs to support 240lbs, over, and over again. So much so that he had completely sapped his energy away by the sixth round without throwing a single body punch. Povetkin came in on fire, and Wlad methodically wore him down using the simplest big man fight tactics.


Fighting big is using your size to your advantage, which yes



They do better than anyone in history.

The argument against them just cannot be that they don't fight big. That's wrong.

I guess it depends on what you consider fighting big. The jab and the hooks I agree with you on but the smothering and holding was done at insane levels. He started holding 10 seconds into the fight against a smaller guy.
So to me fighting big involves more imposing of one will on the other fighter using punches rather than holding and laying on a guys back as the #1 move in your arsenal.

 

[yoyoyo1]

The longer he holds the title, the longer the HW division dies...but if it dies it dies?

Noone gives a damn about the HW division anymore...Ill take a fluke win by a bum to stir shyt up for now

Whens the last time Vegas has seen a good HW PPV or anywhere on the US Soil...that people have talked about?

since when is vegas the middle of the world though? they draw 50,000 at soccer stadiums easily, and get 10 million germans + who knows how many else viewers from around the world

americans can keep spewing cliched obsverations but fact is if america outlawed boxing tomorrow the sport would be perfectly fine

 

[Jello Biafra]

since when is vegas the middle of the world though? they draw 50,000 at soccer stadiums easily, and get 10 million germans + who knows how many else viewers from around the world

americans can keep spewing cliched obsverations but fact is if america outlawed boxing tomorrow the sport would be perfectly fine

You might not like it but the fact of the matter is that The USA is the center of the universe when it comes to pretty much all forms of entertainment be it music, movies or even boxing. All fighters want to make a splash over here even if they can make a perfectly fine living fighting exclusively in the rest of the world.
Wlad made the attempt but he didn't have the success capturing the public's attention here that I am sure he would have liked to have.

 

[krackdagawd]

completely disagree with "if they were american" because americans have so many boxers they don't root for any out of solidarity but merely out of entertainment

andre ward status. but lets be real anyway, such educated and tall white dudes that ended up boxers would never come out of america like that.

You aren't American so you can't speak on how the media here would react to them if they were.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

You aren't American so you can't speak on how the media here would react to them if they were.

Krackbreh #tsckliq all day all dat all dat but

 

[krackdagawd]

Krackbreh #tsckliq all day all dat all dat but

Why are you guys having a hard time believing that two white males who dominate in their sport would be looked upon like from the media if they were American?

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Why are you guys having a hard time believing that two white males who dominate in their sport would be looked upon like from the media if they were American?

Not my point. @yoyoyo is American. I've said nothing about their celebrity

 

[krackdagawd]

Not my point. @yoyoyo is American. I've said nothing about their celebrity

My point still stands.

 

[Mook]

Not my point. @yoyoyo is American. I've said nothing about their celebrity

hes an african booty scracher and takes time off on sundays to play SOCCER!

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Never happening unless they have don't crazy fall out . I'm a fan just wish some actual contenders were around like Floyd I love the skill they possess and vitali would give all time greats fits

Reason doesn't matter why to me.
Floyd get's shyt on for fighting guys who are #2 in his weight class. But on the other side of the pond the Klit brothers can box as long as they have being #1 and #2 and they get a pass for not fighting because they're brothers?