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@BaggerofTea this is NOT directed at you AT ALL, just the topic.

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So here’s part of my issue when this topic comes up.
So the government drops drugs in our communities and…our men didn’t band together to tell the community to say no to the drugs OR put down the men who decided to sell it to the community? Excommunicate the people who wouldn’t stop doing the drugs?
Everyone has a hand in the downfall of the community. The men had a duty to fight that shyt and they failed at that. At some point in this discussion, y’all have to formally address this OWN IT.
I’ve seen brehs on here ask the simple question: just because they brought us drugs, did we have to do them? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a real honest answer to that.
But ok- we can blame the government for Black men being out of the home,
but for whatever reason we CAN’T blame the government for putting Black women in a tight spot and having to make due without our men?
Y’all don’t see with this argument that you place ALL THE BLAME on everyone else in this situation, and make it seem like Black MEN were just helpless and put upon?
You place all the blame on Black women and women run homes as if…I mean
what was supposed to happen? All the women who lost men to the streets were supposed to go find a Hispanic or White man to fill the masculine void? Was that it?
What exactly were the women of that time supposed to do in the immediate fallout of the drug situation?
And y’all know I call out women’s faulty arguments when they are presented here, so this isn’t about bashing Black men.
However it is really fukking rich that everything bad that happened in the community was the fault of whites and Black women.
Black men have no culpability? The word “accountability” gets thrown around so much in our community but somehow when this topic comes up the only group that did something wrong is Black women.
-Nobody formed groups to go around putting a bullet in the head of the drug dealers?
-Groups weren’t formed to challenge them?
-What was the response of the men in our communities when the government came through with the drugs?
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Was our community strong enough to say no to drugs?
WHY NOT?!




Develop an earnest answer to that question before starting the blame game.
OF COURSE FATHERS ARE NECESSARY! PF COURSE MEN ARE NECESSARY. We all know and can see that.
But if you can open your mouths to blame the government for being powerful enough to take you out of our homes, what exactly did you expect of Black women? Somehow the women of the time were going to magically be stronger and more resilient than the men who fell to the temptation of drugs? Make it make sense.
The common sense argument is to blame the government for the state of our families because it’s the government’s actions that led us here.
But if you do that you really gotta go at them, and not punch down on the women.
All these threads about how women are children, women are too emotional, we are weaker, etc.
Well if the government took you out of the home why are you mad at the women? The result was to be expected— THAT’S WHY THEY DID IT!! Because they knew we NEEDED you. 


Y’all really gotta be for real.
Y’all talk about women who aren’t being led, but have any of you picked one to lead? When you got the degree/the trade, the job, the house, were you looking for a wife, or were you enjoying the fruits of your labor with multiple women?
Are your kids born in wedlock? Or it’s ok for you to seed up a chick with no ring, no man as the head of her household? It’s cool for your kid to be the kid who doesn’t have married parents? Do you think about these things? Because if not you have directly contributed to the issue that OP has presented.
We got Nazis in the White House who want to make sure all of you Black men who are on a quest for higher education, stable careers and financial success are thrown off your path. Education, Public Sector (government jobs), private sector, military. That is what these cacs are doing in 2025.
The government is directly attacking you AGAIN, Black man.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? What is the plan to ensure THE COMMUNITY you love to talk about is going to survive this shyt?
THAT is the question for 2025. Not these stupid topics that keep getting rehashed.
Everyone knows you are needed and necessary in our households.
Trump and his administration want to make it harder for you to show up for your households.
The government is doing it again.
So what’s the next step?