Andrew Tate on the White Girl Kevin Samuels Grift Show

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Arriving at this conclusion requires an honest self assessment. It's far easier to assume that there's a problem with the women and that they are products of a broken culture.

You would have a point if the movement did not also push self improvement for men. I wish you guys would just say you hating to hate.
 

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I don’t know brehs, this white woman giving me a Margaret Sanger type vibe here. Like “let me help hurt you”. The fact that she surrounds herself with black woman and is super lilly white is really alarming. She here to divide.

With that said though I did see a clip that was crazy. She was talking about how woman claim to be independent and strong and argue with the their men at home but won’t go to work and argue with their own boss. Y’all be careful with that snow temptress.

How united are we if a white woman can cause division?
 

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You would have a point if the movement did not also push self improvement for men. I wish you guys would just say you hating to hate.

The movement pushes for superficial self improvement for men with the quiet objective of attracting women.

Get a better job
Improve physical fitness

It's no accident that these channels attract the types of men they attract. This is a grift.

:hubie:
 

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Sometimes, women don't want you because you have a terrible personality and you're ugly.

That's how it be sometimes fellas.

Arriving at this conclusion requires an honest self assessment. It's far easier to assume that there's a problem with the women and that they are products of a broken culture.

I mean, this is all facts and self-explanatory, but it does not address the problems in modern gender relations.

Declining birth rates, frustrated single men and women, increased polarization etc.. these are societal problems that need to be addressed.

I mean, if a problem impacts tens of millions of people across the industrialized world, it's clearly no longer just a personal problem.

Not speaking to these issues is what creates a lane for the grifters y'all complain about. If reasonable people don't address these problems, more radical minds will.
 

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I mean, this is all facts and self-explanatory, but it does not address the problems in modern gender relations.

Declining birth rates, frustrated single men and women, increased polarization etc.. these are societal problems that need to be addressed.

I mean, if a problem impacts tens of millions of people across the industrialized world, it's clearly no longer just a personal problem.

Not speaking to these issues is what creates a lane for the grifters y'all complain about. If reasonable people don't address these problems, more radical minds will.

I'm on board with you and this analysis. My position is that the answer isn't lifting weights, traveling or earning more money.

The solutions require something more difficult and something very few people can tackle without external help. I'd argue that people shouldn't even bother getting into relationships without first getting therapy. We cannot control the culture at large but we can control how we interface with it.
 

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:russ:How did she get this far:jbhmm:Seems like two years ago she was just some random cac commenting from the periphery of the whole manosphere/red pill space, now she has become a core part of the space:bryan:
 

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The movement pushes for superficial self improvement for men with the quiet objective of attracting women.

Get a better job
Improve physical fitness

It's no accident that these channels attract the types of men they attract. This is a grift.

:hubie:

A grift would be telling men that they are ok the way they are. and it’s all modern women fault.
 

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A grift would be telling men that they are ok the way they are. and it’s all modern women fault.

He's not offering men anything that changes the status quo, he's telling them how to get in the game and contribute to the problem that other men will complain about.

Work out, earn more money, fukk younger women and then blame those same women for riding the cock carousel when they turn 30.
 

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Yeah it’s been like that since 2020

All it does is create more bitter angry men

Nobody wins from listening to these dudes

Kevin Samuels may have had some issues here or there but one thing I respect about him is how he not only encouraged you men to improve themselves, he also emphasized that they should be dating with the intention to marry.

:francis:
 

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Lol at anyone who actually admires Tate and thinks he has anything meaningful to say. He is a hyper capitalist and as such is a contributor to an non sustainable system that continues to cause misery and suffering for most of the world’s population. He doesn’t give a damn about making boys into men, only grifting misguided people out of their money for his own personal gain. He has no real solutions to society’s ills and endorses rabid anti intellectualism as all right wingers do because it’s easier to influence the ignorant than the educated. All he is is inflammatory statements meant to garner as much controversy as possible- because it sells to the mentally weak. Klandace Owens and many other employ the same hustle.

Anyone who sees him as some kind of person to aspire to is a fool at best.
 
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