An unnerfed speedster could take down ANY hero/villian by themselves. Prove me wrong.

[42 Monks]

In what offensively applicable way?

Flash a chill dude. Just because he's never started cosmic treadmill fukkery off his own initiative don't mean he can't. That's a personal choice from a good guy who typically never escalates. Speed Force is straight up bullshyt. If he wanted to fuse people or whole timelines he could.

 

[Emoryal]

Said reality warper still has to consciously activate their powers.

Any top tier speedster (marvel or DC) smashes them to a paste before they even formulate that thought.

Upper tier reality warpers can bring themselves back to life and definitely reform from paste.

 

[Emoryal]

Flash a chill dude. Just because he's never started cosmic treadmill fukkery off his own initiative don't mean he can't. That's a personal choice from a good guy who typically never escalates. Speed Force is straight up bullshyt. If he wanted to fuse people or whole timelines he could.

fusing timelines is not really the OFFENSIVE abilities I was speaking of.

 

[SmokyQuartz]

 

[SmokyQuartz]

Professor Zoom did lay the beats on WW and Supes tho

 

[WhenWeWereKings]

Upper tier reality warpers can bring themselves back to life and definitely reform from paste.

Fair enough....

 

[Airtrack360]

Isn't The Flash dumb by super hero standards? Couldn't anyone just outsmart him?

 

[42 Monks]

Isn't The Flash dumb by super hero standards? Couldn't anyone just outsmart him?

i'd say he's more aloof or careless than he is dumb even by hero standards. you can get the jump on him because he's not constantly looking for a fight but once he's locked in you gotta be a low or mid level genius to deal with him

 

[WhenWeWereKings]

Isn't The Flash dumb by super hero standards? Couldn't anyone just outsmart him?

To the contrary, Barry Allen Flash was a forensic scientist and Wally West Flash while not as fast as pre crisis Barry arguably tapped into the speed force in more creative ways and was no slouch intellectually either.

The problem with writing characters with super speed is that you have to dumb them down to make the book last more than one panel.

We've seen Wally West Flash move so fast that he was able to fight and defeat a White Martian while running around the world and he was running so fast that he FINISHED the fight before a vase which was dropped by a man DURING the fight hit the ground. (Wally actually caught it.)

Why doesn't he run and fight that fast all of the time? Simple, the plot doesn't require him too.....Hence the term plot induced stupidity, where characters forget or neglects to utilize certain powers, skillsets or assets simply to move the plot along.