America's big cities are turning into housing catastrophes. If we want to fix this mess, we should try and copy Tokyo.

[ExodusNirvana]

no breh, you are. You've become reactionary.

IDK what post you are referring to regarding @bnew and gentrification, but the points about creating high rises and promoting real affordable housing and removing zoning restrictions are not based on getting lower to middle income people out of cities. It doesn't even make sense to push that. And the bozo you cosigned has been on right-wing economic theory.

If you wanna be a reactionary, go for it, but own it.

Your new favorite word is REACTIONARY for anyone who does'nt toe the line on what you consider liberalism.

Which by the way, is why liberalism is doomed in this country, because you're no different than the right wing nutjobs after a certain point.

I am from Brooklyn NY....Clinton Hill/Fort Greene by way of Flatbush.

I'm not part of the most recent wave, or the wave before that, or the wave before that, or the wave before that.

I'M FROM here.

There is NOTHING you can tell me about this. NOTHING.

You TALK about it on The Coli.

I live it. In Real time.

BE. WELL.

 

[ogc163]

HL is becoming TLR with the emotion filled hot takes

 

[ExodusNirvana]

HL is becoming TLR with the emotion filled hot takes

I've lived here my whole life and cats in here trying to co-sign plants and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about in my own city/neighborhood despite watching it happen my entire life and continuing to watch it happen.

Go ahead....check my posting history in regards to OP. I've broken down how I can tell he's a paid shill/plant and dudes are STILL co-signing him on this board because it's more about purity politics in HL than anything else.

Dudes think that because I agree that the GOP is full of piece of shyt sociopaths that I must toe the line on America's particular brand of "liberalism" or I'm a reactionary.

shyt is corny as fukk

 

[mastermind]

Your new favorite word is REACTIONARY for anyone who does'nt toe the line on what you consider liberalism.

Which by the way, is why liberalism is doomed in this country, because you're no different than the right wing nutjobs after a certain point.

I am from Brooklyn NY....Clinton Hill/Fort Greene by way of Flatbush.

I'm not part of the most recent wave, or the wave before that, or the wave before that, or the wave before that.

I'M FROM here.

There is NOTHING you can tell me about this. NOTHING.

You TALK about it on The Coli.

I live it. In Real time.

BE. WELL.

Can't be a new favorite word of mine when I use it sparingly, and mostly about the posts you have written, which shows how your stances have changed from the past to today. People change, but you don't understand that you have changed.

As for the rest of your post, I am wondering if you even read the article or understand what this thread is about.

 

[ogc163]

I've lived here my whole life and cats in here trying to co-sign plants and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about in my own city/neighborhood despite watching it happen my entire life and continuing to watch it happen.

Go ahead....check my posting history in regards to OP. I've broken down how I can tell he's a paid shill/plant and dudes are STILL co-signing him on this board because it's more about purity politics in HL than anything else.

Dudes think that because I agree that the GOP is full of piece of shyt sociopaths that I must toe the line on America's particular brand of "liberalism" or I'm a reactionary.

shyt is corny as fukk

A) I'm focused on the arguments laid out in the article, I don't care about the person who posted it.

B) Your personal experience is irrelevant in discussing the merits of the arguments laid out in the article.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

A) I'm focused on the arguments laid out in the article, I don't care about the person who posted it.

B) Your personal experience is irrelevant in discussing the merits of the arguments laid out in the article.

Dangerous thinking but ok.

Be. Well.

 

[mastermind]

Dangerous thinking but ok.

Be. Well.

I see what happened. You don't know what this thread is about. You didn't read the article or video and don't know whats going on with homelessness in big cities. Basically being reactionary.

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

So, to bring this discussion around to some of the points folks are making, I will agree in general that just adding more high-density housing isn't enough. It is in Tokyo, but Tokyo is monocultural, comparative to us.

I think the sort of building going on in Tokyo would have to be combined with something like the class stratification of Athens apartments. This article talks about it: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

You'd have to codify into law that low-to-mid units are a part of every building, but how do you get that past the NIMBYs and real estate sharks? That might be a first step.

It's not a perfect solution, but I'm trying to be pragmatic. How do we build high-density housing, but make sure that it's not all luxury apartments that push poor black folks out to the burbs? Because I do see what @ExodusNirvana is saying. In my neck of the woods, black renters and homeowners who can't keep up with the price increases caused by too many STEM workers have been pushed to the suburbs and exurbs, and when new housing gets built, it's often luxury condos and not affordable homes.

 

[mastermind]

So, to bring this discussion around to some of the points folks are making, I will agree in general that just adding more high-density housing isn't enough. It is in Tokyo, but Tokyo is monocultural, comparative to us.

I think the sort of building going on in Tokyo would have to be combined with something like the class stratification of Athens apartments. This article talks about it: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

You'd have to codify into law that low-to-mid units are a part of every building, but how do you get that past the NIMBYs and real estate sharks? That might be a first step.

It's not a perfect solution, but I'm trying to be pragmatic. How do we build high-density housing, but make sure that it's not all luxury apartments that push poor black folks out to the burbs? Because I do see what @ExodusNirvana is saying. In my neck of the woods, black renters and homeowners who can't keep up with the price increases caused by too many STEM workers have been pushed to the suburbs and exurbs, and when new housing gets built, it's often luxury condos and not affordable homes.

A lot of that is down to zoning for units. There is a fight in Arlington, VA over this topic with NIMBYs--backed by the real estate industry--is fighting over proposed changes to zoning to create middle zones.

Arlington Planning Commission gives thumbs up to ‘Missing Middle’ zoning changes | ARLnow.com

(Updated 11:45 a.m.) Arlington's Planning Commission voted 8-0 to recommend the Arlington County Board adopt the most flexible option of the proposed zoning changes, known as "Missing Middle." Commissioners Denyse "Nia" Bagley and Leonardo Sarli abstained during last night's vote. Next, the...

www.arlnow.com

There are a lot of tiers with this, but zoning is one thing.

The Real Estate industry is secretly one of the most nastiest industries in this country and they control most local politics.

 

[nyknick]

It's not a perfect solution, but I'm trying to be pragmatic. How do we build high-density housing, but make sure that it's not all luxury apartments that push poor black folks out to the burbs? Because I do see what @ExodusNirvana is saying. In my neck of the woods, black renters and homeowners who can't keep up with the price increases caused by too many STEM workers have been pushed to the suburbs and exurbs, and when new housing gets built, it's often luxury condos and not affordable homes.

Public housing that's actually affordable and mixed. It's never gonna happen here, at least not in our lifetime, but that's the only solution.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I see what happened. You don't know what this thread is about. You didn't read the article or video and don't know whats going on with homelessness in big cities. Basically being reactionary.

I literally live in NYC.

You're buggin dude. 100% wildin.

 

[mastermind]

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Public housing that's actually affordable and mixed. It's never gonna happen here, at least not in our lifetime, but that's the only solution.

A large portion of our affordability crisis is down to the federal government abdicating public housing. A new public housing unit hasn’t been built since the 70s.

 

[No1]

I literally live in NYC.

You're buggin dude. 100% wildin.

So do I and I literally have no idea what you’re talking about in this thread. You just seem mad for no reason. You’re throwing around terms like liberalism rabbit hole and shyt like that with no actual meaning attached to it. This thread is about how to solve the homelessness problem in major cities and policies around that and making affordable housing. How in the fukk did you turn that into a discussion on gentrification when no one in here is co-signing that? You’re literally attributing the exact OPPOSITE opinion to the posters in here and responding “trust me I’m from NYC.” I literally don’t know what you’re talking about as and I’ve spent a third of my life in NYC so your local argument doesn’t hold weight.

 

[mastermind]

I literally live in NYC.

You're buggin dude. 100% wildin.

You literally don’t know what’s going on in this thread.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

So do I and I literally have no idea what you’re talking about in this thread. You just seem mad for no reason. You’re throwing around terms like liberalism rabbit hole and shyt like that with no actual meaning attached to it. This thread is about how to solve the homelessness problem in major cities and policies around that and making affordable housing. How in the fukk did you turn that into a discussion on gentrification when no one in here is co-signing that? You’re literally attributing the exact OPPOSITE opinion to the posters in here and responding “trust me I’m from NYC.” I literally don’t know what you’re talking about as and I’ve spent a third of my life in NYC so your local argument doesn’t hold weight.

Because you don't ACTUALLY know what you're co-signing or who you're co-signing and what they're connected to

And it definitely holds weight when you see the types of housing that gets built in NYC

Are YOU ready to have that convo since you been here a 1/3rd of your life?

We literally have a governor and mayor who are using the "housing crisis" as a cover to build more luxury development and a pittance of "affordable housing", all of which will only serve to displace Black and Brown people from historically minority neighborhoods ALL OVER THIS CITY.

You don't know the players, their partners, the greenwashing astroturf groups that they use to perpetuate this smokescreen, and you're telling me I don't know what's going on in this thread?

I been told ya'll:

1. Watch what OP posts about
2. The Twitter accounts he reposts
3. Who they work for, what they do, where they live, who retweets them and who they follow

And you'll still have the same positions you have now, which is fine (homelessness IS a problem in big cities and there IS a lack of housing) but you'll see past the bullshyt that dude posts and the people he co-signs or the accounts he uses to perpetuate certain positions and you'll realize that a lot that is a certain subsection of "the left" that uses these issues for their own goals which are NOT as altruistic as it seems.