Amazon is Rolling Out Machines To Automate Boxing Up Customer Orders

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We're talking about automation and its affects on workers and consumers.

Seems relevant. :mjgrin:

Go sit down Uncle hotep.
I'm talking about two variations of automation and its affects on workers and the fake concern with frivolous protest from your types
Seems more relevant. :mjgrin:

Go sit down to beg for dyck pics ****.
 

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Yeah but then they'll just add a bunch of regulations on UBI
And if you don't act strictly to their accommodations they'll probably kick you off

Probably won't give you much either, just enough to rent a one bedroom apt
UBI ain't supposed to give you a bunch. It's supposed to be just enough to keep you afloat/provide a safety net so that you have the space to work towards what you really want to do productively in life.

UBI might not be enough to live on, but you would be able to live off UBI + low-pay part-time job while you used the rest of your time to increase your skills and get better work. Or maybe you and your wife both have UBI which is enough that only one of you works. Or UBI + good paying part-time job opens up enough time for you to do the volunteer or ministry work you've always wanted to focus on.

The point of a UBI isn't to support everyone, it's to let the pressure off so that workers can take more control of their own destiny rather than always being desperate on the edge and at the whim of the corporations. If the result of UBI was even that just 10% of women left the workforce to become housewives and 10% of full-time employees backed off to part-time, that would open up a bunch more opportunities for everyone else.




Someone is going to have to install, service and replace these - it's time for a new type or evolution of trade schools.
There will be, but the # of jobs they create will be far less than the # of jobs they'll replace.
 

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One of my best friends family owns a massive farm just outside of Greensboro, NC. He's a Trump supporter, we talk about these topics a good amount with differing views.
One of your best friends is a Trump supporter. :picard:

j/k on that (maybe), but the first thing you pointed out is "massive farm". So he already has a different perspective than the average family farmer. I just want to point that out when you try to take his experience and apply it to everyone else out there.



He's described them as two different paths, but have a similar overall goal - - increase productivity and profitability.

He has told me the issue with the chemical aspect as opposed to automation is that you're not always able to choose to not purchase seed type x or animal type y or feed type z.

He then spoke about the soybean issue with Monsanto. Basically saying because of the seed type people are able to use a different type of pesticide, but that pesticide kills his produce. And since the win blows he's forced to buy into a product ecosystem that he otherwise wouldn't, but the risk of a lost crop isn't worth it.

Whereas he'd say, with automation he may not be able to produce as much or require more labor but still potentially miss a crop due to adverse weather conditions.

I'm more than willing to be wrong here.

Nothing there is wrong. There are aspects of chemical-reliant farming that cause unique problems. But both chemical-reliant farming and automation make ideal farming (which is primarily concerned with the health of the soil, the health of the produce, and the environmental impact) more unlikely.
 

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I can see new fields of study like automation specialist, automation technician and automation engineer coming to life.
what do you mean...coming? They're already here. google automation jobs or careers.

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Associate Controls and Automation Engineer
Ocean Spray Cranberries
Henderson, NV
1 day ago
Automation Engineer
Nesco Resource
Bedford, OH
5 days ago
DevOps/Automation Engineer
LRS
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AB PLC/HMI Automation Engineers
Mangan Inc
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19 days ago
Senior Linux Automation Engineer/Chef SME
 

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That’s the thing
They will always be in control because they control the money supply regardless, the one thing they can’t reslly control at the moment is a persons ability to create wealth for themselves by however many standards there are out there
Not saying UBI would stop that (probably would exacerbate it) but the government would find someway to go out of control with it and fukk it up any kind of way they could, cause that’s just what they usually do
wait. did you just say they can't control a person's ability to create wealth. Oh really. There's a reason why only a very small portion of our society is UBER wealthy.
 

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There will be, but the # of jobs they create will be far less than the # of jobs they'll replace.

Yes and no. Yes, a new field related to the design, implementation and support of the coming automated workforce will not do a one for one job replacement of those displaced. But a new industry that creates blue and white collar employment opportunities has great potential to stimulate the job and education markets creating new and additional opportunities. Automation innovations will eventually find their way into the residential space expanding the industry.

Much like @Call Me James alluded to earlier with the clean energy industry, a short term negative impact (in this case unemployment) will proceed a long term positive impact.
 

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what do you mean...coming? They're already here. google automation jobs or careers.

automation engineer Jobs | Monster.com

Associate Controls and Automation Engineer
Ocean Spray Cranberries
Henderson, NV
1 day ago
Automation Engineer
Nesco Resource
Bedford, OH
5 days ago
DevOps/Automation Engineer
LRS
Maryland Heights, MO
12 days ago
AB PLC/HMI Automation Engineers
Mangan Inc
San Dimas, CA
19 days ago
Senior Linux Automation Engineer/Chef SME

Coming as in an industry of itself - a specialization. What you posted is a list of various positions from industrial automation to digital automation which are automation jobs in multiple fields that directly benefit human workers.
 

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Coming as in an industry of itself - a specialization. What you posted is a list of various positions from industrial automation to digital automation which are automation jobs in multiple fields that directly benefit human workers.
thats not what you said. you said i can see new fields of study... and you then listed them out. i just gave you a list where some of your fields were already careers to be had TODAY. not Coming.

and that automation will help people. and it will also be the cause for a many of people no longer having work to do.

see at first, i need the extra people around to help train the AI or automated algorithms. once that training is complete and the software can do exactly what you would have been doing in these scenarios. its over. same for hardware with software linked to it.
 

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Automated feeding

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Automated milking

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That’s cold....
 
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