Am I buggin' in thinking that the Raptors are legit this season?

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

The same thing you're celebrating now is the same thing you clowned last season with the Hawks.

i) The situations are ENTIRELY different - Hawks fans claimed they were the best team in the East and that no team was going to beat them, I simply said that they weren't better than the Cavs (and that they weren't going to beat a combination of the Wizards, Bulls and Cavs) and that's where the argument started. Them believing they were the best and me saying that the Cavs were the best team in the East.

ii) This was my original post in this thread -

Disclaimer - This isn't me saying they're going to win the championship nor will I be reliable if Lowry [his fat ass] puts the weight back on.

Despite having one of the best offenses (4th) last season, their growth was stunted by having one of the worst defenses (25th). With the addition of DMC, Biyombo and Joseph to a defensive unit already on the upswing, I see no reason why they can't have a top 10 defense to match an offense that'll likely be better than last season: faster pace, fluid ball movement (less dependence on ISOs - no more Lou), a focused and slimmed-down top 5* PG, a top 5* SG, a competent 3-pt shooting SF and diverse frontcourt scoring.

I see no reason why this team doesn't have the potential to be the second best team in the East.

Again, COMPLETELY different to what the Hawks fans were saying.

iii) The Hawks eventually were swept by the Cavs without Love and Kyrie hobbling through two games. If Love is out for the entire series, and Kyrie gets injured and only plays limited minutes and the Raptors get swept then I'll concede, but at this point I was spot on with my projection of this team.

If you don't wanna give me props that's cool, but don't come in here hating when I have made my self abundantly clear since the very start on what my projection of them was. Especially since you upped this thread multiple times.. And don't come in here acting like my arguments have mirrored what the Hawks fans were posting last season.

 

[jaguar paw]

i) The situations are ENTIRELY different - Hawks fans claimed they were the best team in the East and that no team was going to beat them, I simply said that they weren't better than the Cavs (and that they weren't going to beat a combination of the Wizards, Bulls and Cavs) and that's were the argument started. Them believing they were the best and me saying that the Cavs were the best team in the East.

ii) This was my original post in this thread -

Again, COMPLETELY different to what the Hawks fans were saying.

iii) The Hawks eventually were swept by the Cavs without Love and Kyrie hobbling through two games. If Love is out for the entire series, and Kyrie gets injured and only plays limited minutes and the Raptors get swept then I'll concede, but at this point I was spot on with my projection of this team.

If you don't wanna give me props that's cool, but don't come in here hating when I have made my self abundantly clear since the very start on what my projection of them was. Especially since you upped this thread multiple times.. And don't come in here acting like my arguments have mirrored what the Hawks fans were posting last season.

So you missed all the chest beating from @Reinscarf ?

And based on your parameters when I asked you awhile back as to what is legit and what's not in your eyes ....the 2014-2015 Atlanta Hawks fit your criteria as being legit.

You know this team lucked it's way here. Raptors had the superior talent and depth in both series and barely got out of it.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So you missed all the chest beating from @Reinscarf ?

What does that have to do with what I post and this thread?

And based on your parameters when I asked you awhile back as to what is legit and what's not in your eyes ....the 2014-2015 Atlanta Hawks fit your criteria as being legit.

Did you not read this -

"The Hawks eventually were swept by the Cavs without Love and Kyrie hobbling through two games. If Love is out for the entire series, and Kyrie gets injured and only plays limited minutes and the Raptors get swept then I'll concede, but at this point I was spot on with my projection of this team."

You know this team lucked it's way here. Raptors had the superior talent and depth in both series and barely got out of it.

Far from it, they shot themselves in the foot more times than I count. Even despite not performing consistently, they still had their fair share of injuries and bad luck along the way too. The two best teams in the East made it into the ECF and that's all that matters.

You're starting to sound like all those Warriors detractors last season.

 

[jaguar paw]

What does that have to do with what I post and this thread?

Did you not read this -

"The Hawks eventually were swept by the Cavs without Love and Kyrie hobbling through two games. If Love is out for the entire series, and Kyrie gets injured and only plays limited minutes and the Raptors get swept then I'll concede, but at this point I was spot on with my projection of this team."

Far from it, they shot themselves in the foot more times than I count. Even despite not performing consistently, they still had their fair share of injuries and bad luck along the way too. The two best teams in the East made it into the ECF and that's all that matters.

You just said the Hawks fans were hyping their team up. I just pointed out the Raptors fans have too.

I'm not asking you to concede anything. Your projection for the Raptors with your qualifiers of legit (fringe contender that can be a 1-2 seed and make the ECF) is exactly what the Hawks accomplished last year.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You just said the Hawks fans were hyping their team up. I just pointed out the Raptors fans have too.

Again it's different. i) I never made those posts about what you claim Raptors fans were making, so it's not relevant in terms of this thread ii) Raptors fans actually said they weren't doing shyt ALL season (@Reinscarf included), and I was actually trying to convince them that they were legit - I've been arguing with @Miggs and @CantStop all season long iii) If they had said the same things the Hawks fans were saying last season and went on to get swept in the ECF when the Cavs were without Love and Kyrie I would be uppin all their posts too - but they didn't.

You're not seriously using @Reinscarf as an example after he posted "blow it up" every time the Raptors lost this season are you?

I'm not asking you to concede anything. Your projection for the Raptors with your qualifiers of legit (fringe contender that can be a 1-2 seed and make the ECF) is exactly what the Hawks accomplished last year.

If the Cavs were healthy last season and the Hawks pushed them to 5-7 games and played them tough, and the Hawks fans never posted all that shyt about them being the best team in the East and all the other nonsense they said - I wouldn't have upped any posts and I would've agreed that they were legit in terms of how I see the Raptors this season.

Again like I said, if Love is injured for the entire series and Kyrie plays only 1-2 games with limited minutes and the Cavs sweep the Raptors, than obviously the Raptors won't be legit. Which again, although I do expect the Raptors to push this Cavs squad I have NO delusions about them being the better team like Hawks fans did last season.

 

[jaguar paw]

Again it's different. i) I never made those posts about what you claim Raptors fans were making, so it's not relevant in terms of this thread ii) Raptors fans actually said they weren't doing shyt ALL season (@Reinscarf included), and I was actually trying to convince them that they were legit - I've been arguing with @Miggs and @CantStop all season long iii) If they had said the same things the Hawks fans were saying last season and went on to get swept in the ECF when the Cavs were without Love and Kyrie I would be uppin all their posts too - but they didn't.

You're not seriously using @Reinscarf as an example after he posted "blow it up" every time the Raptors lost this season are you?

If the Cavs were healthy last season and the Hawks pushed them to 5-7 games and played them tough, and the Hawks fans never posted all that shyt about them being the best team in the East and all the other nonsense they said - I wouldn't have upped any posts and I would've agreed that they were legit in terms of how I see the Raptors this season.

Again like I said, if Love is injured for the entire series and Kyrie plays only 1-2 games with limited minutes and the Cavs sweep the Raptors, than obviously the Raptors won't be legit. Which again, although I do expect the Raptors to push this Cavs squad I have NO delusions about them being the better team like Hawks fans did last season.

Aight so you're asking for Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving to get hurt between now and Tuesday.

The Cavs to then sweep the Raptors in order to disprove this thread or the very obvious similarities to last year's Hawks with whom you spent all season mocking.

Gotcha.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Aight so you're asking for Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving to get hurt between now and Tuesday.

The Cavs to then sweep the Raptors in order to disprove this thread or the very obvious similarities to last year's Hawks with whom you spent all season mocking.

Gotcha.

You're smarter than this breh.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Cavs in 4, remember when you were clowning Hawks fans for making the Easten conference finals

I never clowned them for making the ECF - I clowned them for what they said and how they lost in the ECF. I don't know what's so hard to understand about this?

 

[jaguar paw]

You're smarter than this breh.

I can only go with the options you've provided.

Raptors balled out today. The previous 13 games in the playoffs have been a complete shyt show. There are no style points I get that. They made it to the ECF as a 2 seed.

I didn't think the Hawks were legit last year and I don't think these Raptors are either.

That's where we differ.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I can only go with the options you've provided.

Raptors balled out today. The previous 13 games in the playoffs have been a complete shyt show. There are no style points I get that. They made it to the ECF as a 2 seed.

I didn't think the Hawks were legit last year and I don't think these Raptors are either.

That's where we differ.

I just said that the Hawks weren't legit last season either because of how the ECF went and what state the Cavs were in. Same applies here if a similar scenario plays out with the Cavs/Raptors. I don't know what's so hard to understand about all this?

"If the Cavs were healthy last season and the Hawks pushed them to 5-7 games and played them tough, and the Hawks fans never posted all that shyt about them being the best team in the East and all the other nonsense they said - I wouldn't have upped any posts and I would've agreed that they were legit in terms of how I see the Raptors this season."

To me that is a legit team - not making it to the ECF and getting swept by a team without its #2 and #3 options.

 

[Damnshow]

raps are going to win a game against cleveland, didn they win two in regular season vs cavs? Hornets made a stupid move letting Bismack go, he hustles like crazy, and raps bench is fine, except terrence thot, but for fukk sakes please somebody tell that fakkit derozan to pass the ball more often. Raptors are so entertaining you can simply just tune in the game and watch and make fun of Derozan.

 

[IGSaint12]

Props @Z-Bo's Deep Thoughts

 

[jaguar paw]

I just said that the Hawks weren't legit last season either because of how the ECF went and what state the Cavs were in. Same applies here if a similar scenario plays out with the Cavs/Raptors. I don't know what's so hard to understand about all this?

"If the Cavs were healthy last season and the Hawks pushed them to 5-7 games and played them tough, and the Hawks fans never posted all that shyt about them being the best team in the East and all the other nonsense they said - I wouldn't have upped any posts and I would've agreed that they were legit in terms of how I see the Raptors this season."

To me that is a legit team - not making it to the ECF and getting swept by a team without its #2 and #3 options.

Aight man.

 

[Loose]

You buggin family they trash as fukk

 

[Ain't That Something]

I never clowned them for making the ECF - I clowned them for what they said and how they lost in the ECF. I don't know what's so hard to understand about this?

Breh you can talk in circles with these other nikkas all you want, unless they beat the Cavs don't quote me