All RR hype aside, Asuka and Nakamura are MADE now

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As singles probably Reigns>Owens>Fire Pants>Dean>Charlotte>Alexa>Sasha>Asuka then you get down into the people like Finn, Sami, Rusev, Baron, American Alpha, Bayley, Becky etc
Nah...Alexa isn't that high up. Credited with burying Bayley, that this is your life segment, and not showing up week since Absolution popped up. Lol.Asuka is way ahead of that..her and Nia get the biggest pops every week for now.
 

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Nah...Alexa isn't that high up. Credited with burying Bayley, that this is your life segment, and not showing up week since Absolution popped up. Lol.Asuka is way ahead of that..her and Nia get the biggest pops every week for now.
They've basically given her that Raw womens division even though she's not really that appealing (my opinion). I'm just basing it off of success, not like talent or skill. Asuka built her image up on NXT and the rumble win, until she get that title I think it's fair to put her beneath Sasha and Alexa for now in terms of success.
 

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They've basically given her that Raw womens division even though she's not really that appealing (my opinion). I'm just basing it off of success, not like talent or skill. Asuka built her image up on NXT and the rumble win, until she get that title I think it's fair to put her beneath Sasha and Alexa for now in terms of success.
Success wide, she's above the belt. She beat Alexa and Sasha outright. Made Nia quit. Alexa has been running from Nia..only beat Sasha like twice...She keeps the belt and talks alot. Thats not bigger the Asuka effect. Asuka is winning kayfabe and purist awards. Not even close.
 

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Success wide, she's above the belt. She beat Alexa and Sasha outright. Made Nia quit. Alexa has been running from Nia..only beat Sasha like twice...She keeps the belt and talks alot. Thats not bigger the Asuka effect. Asuka is winning kayfabe and purist awards. Not even close.
I don't know what you're talkin about dude. Yes Asuka did a lot in NXT and she's undefeated, but Alexa has been successful on the main roster. Her and Sasha. we can't just act like Asuka has far exceeded them in terms of success. You like her better than them cool. Alexa and Sasha have been the part of all these "the first womens ______ match". Sasha already main evented a PPV. Like they've put lots of resources behind them and Charlotte on the main roster. Asuka will probably pass that or be on par with that real fast but she has to actually do it first.
 

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Stop all this "don't jump the gun" bull shyt.

Just look at the listen of every winner since HBK back in 1995. Every winner since then has meant something to the company in some shape or form even their worst winners Del Rio and Sheamus. They always tried pushing Del Rio as a top guy or upper mid card guy. Sheamus like a 3 time wwe champion and has won many other titles and nikka currently on his 100000th tag title run it seems.

Before Naka's win at the Rumble the winners were Cena, Batista, Roman, HHH, Orton...... like come the fukk on lol! He's a house hold name for WWE and hes most likely allowed to stay their the rest of his career if he wants WWE not gonna allow rumble winners to jump ship so easily besides Del Rio but he was crazy but again nikka got 100000 chances in the E.


Naka might not be number 1 number 2 or even number 3 top guy for the E after this. But they let him win the rumble and they usually have rumble winners eating pretty good the rest of their career.

I'm happy for Naka and I'm pretty sure its the same case for Asuka.

Imagine having a 2/3 year winning streak winning the first EVER womens rumble in the main event on a big 4 ppv and try to say "don't just jump the gun yet!" brehs
 

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I don't know what you're talkin about dude. Yes Asuka did a lot in NXT and she's undefeated, but Alexa has been successful on the main roster. Her and Sasha. we can't just act like Asuka has far exceeded them in terms of success. You like her better than them cool. Alexa and Sasha have been the part of all these "the first womens ______ match". Sasha already main evented a PPV. Like they've put lots of resources behind them and Charlotte on the main roster. Asuka will probably pass that or be on par with that real fast but she has to actually do it first.
You don't know what I'm talking about? Are you dense or something? Alexa Bliss is an absentee champion. Facing Asuka is the title match on Raw. That's why Alexa matches get no reaction or heat yet Asuka has fans invested in results like at Survivor Series, Rumble, and the Sasha match. Jack Swagger was given the belt...so was Khali but are they Taker level or Angle level? Common sense. Alexa is such a non draw that they have her doing tweets while she's backstage on a 3 hour show instead of bringing her out for the fans to see. Asuka's match is highlighted and treated like the main event of the women's division. Sense wise..why the fukk would Sasha want to face Asuka on Raw when she should be doing ANYTHING TO get a title match and beat Alexa to be in the female main event? You know....like they had Daniel Bryan do in 2014. That's what I'm talking about.

Asuka is MUCH MORE than successful on the roster...she's carrying the damn women's divison because the story of who is gonna beat her is bigger than any female title in the company. Everyone knows that but you apparently.

Charlotte is getting punked and slapped around by the Riot Squad while they had Asuka basically make the Paige group back down and leave...over and over again. Bliss and Charlotte aren't on that level this year or even last.
 

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i shoulda said in the last 5 years :manny:

Shield may be the best call ups now but let’s see how the next two years go for Nak and Asuka
They aren't the best anything..they are the most pushed. Roman is a rejected star and people complain about Dean's matches all the time...they whine about Seth's heel promos all the time. So they aren't the BEST...they are just constantly put in your face on both Raw and Smackdown the most since Daniel Bryan got injured.
 

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You don't know what I'm talking about? Are you dense or something? Alexa Bliss is an absentee champion. Facing Asuka is the title match on Raw. That's why Alexa matches get no reaction or heat yet Asuka has fans invested in results like at Survivor Series, Rumble, and the Sasha match. Jack Swagger was given the belt...so was Khali but are they Taker level or Angle level? Common sense. Alexa is such a non draw that they have her doing tweets while she's backstage on a 3 hour show instead of bringing her out for the fans to see. Asuka's match is highlighted and treated like the main event of the women's division. Sense wise..why the fukk would Sasha want to face Asuka on Raw when she should be doing ANYTHING TO get a title match and beat Alexa to be in the female main event? You know....like they had Daniel Bryan do in 2014. That's what I'm talking about.

Asuka is MUCH MORE than successful on the roster...she's carrying the damn women's divison because the story of who is gonna beat her is bigger than any female title in the company. Everyone knows that but you apparently.

Charlotte is getting punked and slapped around by the Riot Squad while they had Asuka basically make the Paige group back down and leave...over and over again. Bliss and Charlotte aren't on that level this year or even last.
Do you understand what success means? Success has nothing to do with who is more talented. You can be successful because they put you in the right position or they allocated resources for you. You're just replacing who's more talented or a better wrestler and calling that success. Jinder Mahal is more successful than Sami Zayn. Sami is overall better at everything. But they actually let Jinder run with a world title and gave him goons and special entrances.

Asuka has not been more successful than Alexa and Sasha, YET! Even when Asuka won the rumble they still squashed that shyt and trotted out Ronda. Killed her moment that fast. They didn't even let her bask in the success for 24 hours. Asuka will get there, but you clearly don't understand that she has to actually surpass these people first in terms of winning titles and main eventing PPVs in singles matches.

A good example of success vs who's better. Edge has like 11 world title reigns, but people would say Punk is better. Edge was more successful tho.
 

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I don't much care for Bliss, but you'd be hard pressed to say she hasn't been one of the most successful women on main. Especially compared to where she was in NXT. I get the feeling the company may be cooling down on her, though, so we'll see how Asuka compares in a year or so.
 
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