All final fantasy characters have a battle royale to the death

[feelosofer]

Shadow from FFVI.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

you can do this in Dissidia...

Cloud has all the canon cheat codes so its not even worth a topic

but Thunder God Cid is untouchable.

 

[Black Cac]

you can do this in Dissidia...

Cloud has all the canon cheat codes so its not even worth a topic

but Thunder God Cid is untouchable.

Vincent is stronger than cloud. Not even a debate. at using dissidia as a reference.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Vincent is stronger than cloud. Not even a debate. at using dissidia as a reference.

What evidence do you have of that? Not being able to die =/= power. Literally every time Cloud appears in canon material he's stronger AND if he isn't caught in his feelings he's even stronger. This is exactly WHY I have issue with the entire FF7 shyt...nikkas powers are WILDLY inconsistent.

 

[Black Cac]

Evidence is dirge of cerberus

 

[Piff Huxtable]

low key

 

[hotbeezie]

Whoever's casting haste​

 

[Killigraphy]

What evidence do you have of that? Not being able to die =/= power. Literally every time Cloud appears in canon material he's stronger AND if he isn't caught in his feelings he's even stronger. This is exactly WHY I have issue with the entire FF7 shyt...nikkas powers are WILDLY inconsistent.

Vincent has been the only one that has been put in the category of "unbeatable", he doesn't age, he can transform into anything (Chaos being his godkiller mode) and is damn near unaffected by black-holes, pocket dimensions, demi-gods, etc Dirge of Cerberus pretty much delves into Vincent running into and through everything in his path. He can also upgrade his gun into the Ultima weapon, at that point I threw in the towel on trying to debate who's the strongest back when people used to ask. He's the Superman of the FF universe.

 

[SumBlackguyz]

Whoever's casting haste​

underrated post

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Vincent has been the only one that has been put in the category of "unbeatable", he doesn't age, he can transform into anything (Chaos being his godkiller mode) and is damn near unaffected by black-holes, pocket dimensions, demi-gods, etc Dirge of Cerberus pretty much delves into Vincent running into and through everything in his path. He can also upgrade his gun into the Ultima weapon, at that point I threw in the towel on trying to debate who's the strongest back when people used to ask. He's the Superman of the FF universe.

And that's absurdly stupid. Even more stupid when you consider he's a side party member and still is bound to the same rules as everyone. I could understand if they made Vincent a Citan or Thunder God Cid type party member who's CLEARLY more powerful, but they don't wanna break the game but they didn't. Just more proof that the FF7 side stories are bullshyt they are just making up as they go.

I totally forgot about Dirge so i'm not gonna argue that...but its still very very very stupid.

 

[Microfracture]

Penelo

 

[Killigraphy]

And that's absurdly stupid. Even more stupid when you consider he's a side party member and still is bound to the same rules as everyone. I could understand if they made Vincent a Citan or Thunder God Cid type party member who's CLEARLY more powerful, but they don't wanna break the game but they didn't. Just more proof that the FF7 side stories are bullshyt they are just making up as they go.

I totally forgot about Dirge so i'm not gonna argue that...but its still very very very stupid.

We can't really dive into it being "stupid" either, because a lot of things are "stupid" in the FF universe let along FF7. Sure he's side party member, but so are half the characters in FF Tactics, we have to apply the "But the hero met them anyway" rule, as is par for the course with RPG's and side characters. With that said, Squaresoft really didn't bother to do power checks, as in FF8 Seifer literally sliced Odin in half. Huge "wtf" moments with Square, to be fair it was the height of DBZ and people just wanted to see ridiculously cool shyt.

Lore wise, I would say there are a few god-killers in the FF universe, but they can age, Vincent only take it in my book, due to the fact that he literally can turn into anything and the guy will look 27 forever (God killing excluded of course).

 

[Black Cac]

Hey, they mentioned it in advent children. It was clouds story

FF7 wasn't Vincents story

Vincent had to let Lil nikka eat

He even saved cloud in advent children like"

 

[Black Magisterialness]

We can't really dive into it being "stupid" either, because a lot of things are "stupid" in the FF universe let along FF7. Sure he's side party member, but so are half the characters in FF Tactics, we have to apply the "But the hero met them anyway" rule, as is par for the course with RPG's and side characters. With that said, Squaresoft really didn't bother to do power checks, as in FF8 Seifer literally sliced Odin in half. Huge "wtf" moments with Square, to be fair it was the height of DBZ and people just wanted to see ridiculously cool shyt.

Lore wise, I would say there are a few god-killers in the FF universe, but they can age, Vincent only take it in my book, due to the fact that he literally can turn into anything and the guy will look 27 forever (God killing excluded of course).

You have valid points....but FF7 took the shyt to new levels...it was one thing to see Knights of the Round and Omnislash but damn nikkas started flying around and shyt...

 

[Black Cac]

nikkas was suplexing freight trains in FF6