"All BAD Things Must Come to an End" - Breaking Bad Season 5: Part 2 Official Thread (SPOILERS)

[Francis White]

Saul Goodman actor Bob Odenkirk has been chatting about Breaking Bad spin-off, Better Call Saul...
AMC is keener than an especially keen jar of Colman's to make Breaking Bad spin-off Better Call Saul happen, but the finer details are still very much a work in progress, it appears.

Speaking to IGN this week, the actor behind Saul Goodman, Bob Odenkirk, confirmed that "the writers are starting up in two or three weeks", but as yet, he doesn't know what they'll be writing: "I don’t know what [writers Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould] are going to do. I know they’ve talked about prequel, but they’ve also talked to me about sequel, and they’ve also talked to me about a mix of prequel and sequel."

Odenkirk also denied rumours that the series would be predominantly a comedy vehicle, saying "I don't think that's what it's going to be. It's going to be 70% drama and 30% comedy."

As for whether we can expect to see Bryan Cranston and others from the Breaking Bad universe pop up in the series, Odenkirk is clear that "I told Peter and Vince, right away I said, ‘Look man, let us make this fresh for everyone.’ So that right away, in the first five minutes, every viewer goes, ‘Oh, this isn’t Breaking Bad, this is its own thing", adding, "there might be a cameo here or there, but I don't know. We're going to do a new show".

Read the interview in full at IGN by following the link below.



Read more: http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/breakin...-be-a-mix-of-prequel-and-sequel#ixzz2k4YfXTbo

 

[JuvenileHell]

All that's missing is the blackk jacket and the bandage over his nose

 

[Numpsay]

Just finished Breaking Bad, for those that don't want to read this entire review I rate the series 4/5 and in my top 10 of alltime shows. The show, IMO had a very slow start and it was quite the struggle to complete the first season. This seems to be a common thought everywhere except for mostly on TheColi but if you pay attention a lot of other people feel the same way on here as well. What also kept this series for being great to me is that it required a certain suspension of belief on numerous occasions. It wasn't Dexter level bad, but at times I thought it was to much. Now some character break down.


Hank and the DEA- Not sure if we are ever supposed to take them seriously as an advesary or a threat to bust Walter. From the very beginning we are shown how inept they are by not securing a perimeter and allowing Pinkman to escape. How do you do a bust without knowing who exactly you are busting anyway. And apparently the tip came from there own snitch who didn't advise who exactly he was snitching on in which I'm sure he didn't intentionally want his cousin arrested.
But besides that there are numerous other occasion where they just don't get a the job done. Also I'm not sure of why or what the intentions were in regards to Hanks reactions to shooting Tuco, and then the event in El Paso. Also I felt that Texas should have been tied into the story at some point as well. In regards to Hank in the line of duty he seemed to handle himself well, its everywhere else that he sucked. Not much character developed for Hank but not much was required. Typical macho cop type.


Gus- I thought was a very interesting character. I just hated the way he went out. Dude sniffed a car bomb out of thin air, then recklessly goes to visit an advesary after they had just left the DEA. Up until that point he had played everything cool and never got to emotional. Going to visit the old man in the manner he did I thought was quite out of character for him. Dope character though.

Mike-Very thorough character, another one of my favorites. I again hated how he went out. To have a dude that is such a professional in everything he does to get taken out by the likes of a wannabe like Walt didn't do that character any justice. I honestly expected him to know the gun was missing just based on the weight of the bag when Walt handed it to him. That his how thorough I thought he was. Dude just wanted his granddaughter to be taken care of smh.


Jesse Pinkman-There wasn't a moment in this series that I felt bad for Jesse. Dude consistently made bad decision after bad decision without thinking of the possible consequences to anyone around him. Then, just when I was starting to have a glimmer of hope that his character would develop he turns snitch and I realize its still the same whiny ass, big baby, Jesse Pinkman from the very first season. Everyone wondering what exactly happens with Jesse, I can tell you, dude is somewhere making an awful decision that will likely get someone killed.


Jesse- Dude went from killing roaches to damn near being a kingpin in record time. Would have beat Walts record by a mile.


Skylar-The one character I am perplexed on how I feel. Not sure if I feel bad for her or if I felt she should have just sucked it up. She started off as the typical whiny, annoying TV wife but I thought her character grew beyond that. And honestly she may have had the most character development out of any of the others outside of Walter. The only thing I didn't like was they never really explained why she was able to look pass her boss embezzling money but villify Walt for cooking Meth.

Walt Jr-Useless character, added nothing to the show.


Saul-Provided comedy relief, a well acted character. Not very much to say about him though. He was what he was.


Walt Sr.-I was never in support of this character. From the onset I could see dude was hungry for power. It was never really about the money with him, that just came along with it. His misgiving, I guess starting with the Grey Matter debacle ending with him being a common Chemistry teacher and I can see why he would want something more out of life before passing away. But for all the shyt I give Jesse for making awful decisions, Walt made just as many. It made no sense for him not to take the money from his friends for the treatment or except a position in a company he help build. It all spiraled out of control from there. Watching him act as if he was a kingpin was quite painful though, I just couldn't take him seriously and just waited for his card to be pulled. But being the star of the show of course he outthinks and outsmarts everyone until he gets shot by his own gun, all to let a snitch get away that would have had him in jail if he wasn't rescued by Jesse's people. The character just got away with to much IMO.

 

[Francis White]

Just finished Breaking Bad, for those that don't want to read this entire review I rate the series 4/5 and in my top 10 of alltime shows. The show, IMO had a very slow start and it was quite the struggle to complete the first season. This seems to be a common thought everywhere except for mostly on TheColi but if you pay attention a lot of other people feel the same way on here as well. What also kept this series for being great to me is that it required a certain suspension of belief on numerous occasions. It wasn't Dexter level bad, but at times I thought it was to much. Now some character break down.


Hank and the DEA- Not sure if we are ever supposed to take them seriously as an advesary or a threat to bust Walter. From the very beginning we are shown how inept they are by not securing a perimeter and allowing Pinkman to escape. How do you do a bust without knowing who exactly you are busting anyway. And apparently the tip came from there own snitch who didn't advise who exactly he was snitching on in which I'm sure he didn't intentionally want his cousin arrested.
But besides that there are numerous other occasion where they just don't get a the job done. Also I'm not sure of why or what the intentions were in regards to Hanks reactions to shooting Tuco, and then the event in El Paso. Also I felt that Texas should have been tied into the story at some point as well. In regards to Hank in the line of duty he seemed to handle himself well, its everywhere else that he sucked. Not much character developed for Hank but not much was required. Typical macho cop type.


Gus- I thought was a very interesting character. I just hated the way he went out. Dude sniffed a car bomb out of thin air, then recklessly goes to visit an advesary after they had just left the DEA. Up until that point he had played everything cool and never got to emotional. Going to visit the old man in the manner he did I thought was quite out of character for him. Dope character though.

Mike-Very thorough character, another one of my favorites. I again hated how he went out. To have a dude that is such a professional in everything he does to get taken out by the likes of a wannabe like Walt didn't do that character any justice. I honestly expected him to know the gun was missing just based on the weight of the bag when Walt handed it to him. That his how thorough I thought he was. Dude just wanted his granddaughter to be taken care of smh.


Jesse Pinkman-There wasn't a moment in this series that I felt bad for Jesse. Dude consistently made bad decision after bad decision without thinking of the possible consequences to anyone around him. Then, just when I was starting to have a glimmer of hope that his character would develop he turns snitch and I realize its still the same whiny ass, big baby, Jesse Pinkman from the very first season. Everyone wondering what exactly happens with Jesse, I can tell you, dude is somewhere making an awful decision that will likely get someone killed.


Jesse- Dude went from killing roaches to damn near being a kingpin in record time. Would have beat Walts record by a mile.


Skylar-The one character I am perplexed on how I feel. Not sure if I feel bad for her or if I felt she should have just sucked it up. She started off as the typical whiny, annoying TV wife but I thought her character grew beyond that. And honestly she may have had the most character development out of any of the others outside of Walter. The only thing I didn't like was they never really explained why she was able to look pass her boss embezzling money but villify Walt for cooking Meth.

Walt Jr-Useless character, added nothing to the show.


Saul-Provided comedy relief, a well acted character. Not very much to say about him though. He was what he was.


Walt Sr.-I was never in support of this character. From the onset I could see dude was hungry for power. It was never really about the money with him, that just came along with it. His misgiving, I guess starting with the Grey Matter debacle ending with him being a common Chemistry teacher and I can see why he would want something more out of life before passing away. But for all the shyt I give Jesse for making awful decisions, Walt made just as many. It made no sense for him not to take the money from his friends for the treatment or except a position in a company he help build. It all spiraled out of control from there. Watching him act as if he was a kingpin was quite painful though, I just couldn't take him seriously and just waited for his card to be pulled. But being the star of the show of course he outthinks and outsmarts everyone until he gets shot by his own gun, all to let a snitch get away that would have had him in jail if he wasn't rescued by Jesse's people. The character just got away with to much IMO.

One of the worst reviews of all time on the coli and that's saying something.

 

[muzikfrk75]

So his fav characters were Skylar & Saul?

 

[Christian3o5]

copped a "Los Pollos Hermanos" shirt last night

 

[radio rahiem]

Just finished Breaking Bad, for those that don't want to read this entire review I rate the series 4/5 and in my top 10 of alltime shows. The show, IMO had a very slow start and it was quite the struggle to complete the first season. This seems to be a common thought everywhere except for mostly on TheColi but if you pay attention a lot of other people feel the same way on here as well. What also kept this series for being great to me is that it required a certain suspension of belief on numerous occasions. It wasn't Dexter level bad, but at times I thought it was to much. Now some character break down.


Hank and the DEA- Not sure if we are ever supposed to take them seriously as an advesary or a threat to bust Walter. From the very beginning we are shown how inept they are by not securing a perimeter and allowing Pinkman to escape. How do you do a bust without knowing who exactly you are busting anyway. And apparently the tip came from there own snitch who didn't advise who exactly he was snitching on in which I'm sure he didn't intentionally want his cousin arrested.
But besides that there are numerous other occasion where they just don't get a the job done. Also I'm not sure of why or what the intentions were in regards to Hanks reactions to shooting Tuco, and then the event in El Paso. Also I felt that Texas should have been tied into the story at some point as well. In regards to Hank in the line of duty he seemed to handle himself well, its everywhere else that he sucked. Not much character developed for Hank but not much was required. Typical macho cop type.


Gus- I thought was a very interesting character. I just hated the way he went out. Dude sniffed a car bomb out of thin air, then recklessly goes to visit an advesary after they had just left the DEA. Up until that point he had played everything cool and never got to emotional. Going to visit the old man in the manner he did I thought was quite out of character for him. Dope character though.

Mike-Very thorough character, another one of my favorites. I again hated how he went out. To have a dude that is such a professional in everything he does to get taken out by the likes of a wannabe like Walt didn't do that character any justice. I honestly expected him to know the gun was missing just based on the weight of the bag when Walt handed it to him. That his how thorough I thought he was. Dude just wanted his granddaughter to be taken care of smh.


Jesse Pinkman-There wasn't a moment in this series that I felt bad for Jesse. Dude consistently made bad decision after bad decision without thinking of the possible consequences to anyone around him. Then, just when I was starting to have a glimmer of hope that his character would develop he turns snitch and I realize its still the same whiny ass, big baby, Jesse Pinkman from the very first season. Everyone wondering what exactly happens with Jesse, I can tell you, dude is somewhere making an awful decision that will likely get someone killed.


Jesse- Dude went from killing roaches to damn near being a kingpin in record time. Would have beat Walts record by a mile.


Skylar-The one character I am perplexed on how I feel. Not sure if I feel bad for her or if I felt she should have just sucked it up. She started off as the typical whiny, annoying TV wife but I thought her character grew beyond that. And honestly she may have had the most character development out of any of the others outside of Walter. The only thing I didn't like was they never really explained why she was able to look pass her boss embezzling money but villify Walt for cooking Meth.

Walt Jr-Useless character, added nothing to the show.


Saul-Provided comedy relief, a well acted character. Not very much to say about him though. He was what he was.


Walt Sr.-I was never in support of this character. From the onset I could see dude was hungry for power. It was never really about the money with him, that just came along with it. His misgiving, I guess starting with the Grey Matter debacle ending with him being a common Chemistry teacher and I can see why he would want something more out of life before passing away. But for all the shyt I give Jesse for making awful decisions, Walt made just as many. It made no sense for him not to take the money from his friends for the treatment or except a position in a company he help build. It all spiraled out of control from there. Watching him act as if he was a kingpin was quite painful though, I just couldn't take him seriously and just waited for his card to be pulled. But being the star of the show of course he outthinks and outsmarts everyone until he gets shot by his own gun, all to let a snitch get away that would have had him in jail if he wasn't rescued by Jesse's people. The character just got away with to much IMO.

i think Todd's name is Todd, not Jesse

 

[Numpsay]

Yea that's what I meant

 

[VBM]

The Mike review made me think of Omar

 

[ECA]

So his fav characters were Skylar & Saul?

I can understand Saul, but Skylar?

 

[ECA]

Just finished Breaking Bad, for those that don't want to read this entire review I rate the series 4/5 and in my top 10 of alltime shows. The show, IMO had a very slow start and it was quite the struggle to complete the first season. This seems to be a common thought everywhere except for mostly on TheColi but if you pay attention a lot of other people feel the same way on here as well. What also kept this series for being great to me is that it required a certain suspension of belief on numerous occasions. It wasn't Dexter level bad, but at times I thought it was to much. Now some character break down.


Hank and the DEA- Not sure if we are ever supposed to take them seriously as an advesary or a threat to bust Walter. From the very beginning we are shown how inept they are by not securing a perimeter and allowing Pinkman to escape. How do you do a bust without knowing who exactly you are busting anyway. And apparently the tip came from there own snitch who didn't advise who exactly he was snitching on in which I'm sure he didn't intentionally want his cousin arrested.
But besides that there are numerous other occasion where they just don't get a the job done. Also I'm not sure of why or what the intentions were in regards to Hanks reactions to shooting Tuco, and then the event in El Paso. Also I felt that Texas should have been tied into the story at some point as well. In regards to Hank in the line of duty he seemed to handle himself well, its everywhere else that he sucked. Not much character developed for Hank but not much was required. Typical macho cop type.


Gus- I thought was a very interesting character. I just hated the way he went out. Dude sniffed a car bomb out of thin air, then recklessly goes to visit an advesary after they had just left the DEA. Up until that point he had played everything cool and never got to emotional. Going to visit the old man in the manner he did I thought was quite out of character for him. Dope character though.

Mike-Very thorough character, another one of my favorites. I again hated how he went out. To have a dude that is such a professional in everything he does to get taken out by the likes of a wannabe like Walt didn't do that character any justice. I honestly expected him to know the gun was missing just based on the weight of the bag when Walt handed it to him. That his how thorough I thought he was. Dude just wanted his granddaughter to be taken care of smh.


Jesse Pinkman-There wasn't a moment in this series that I felt bad for Jesse. Dude consistently made bad decision after bad decision without thinking of the possible consequences to anyone around him. Then, just when I was starting to have a glimmer of hope that his character would develop he turns snitch and I realize its still the same whiny ass, big baby, Jesse Pinkman from the very first season. Everyone wondering what exactly happens with Jesse, I can tell you, dude is somewhere making an awful decision that will likely get someone killed.


Jesse- Dude went from killing roaches to damn near being a kingpin in record time. Would have beat Walts record by a mile.


Skylar-The one character I am perplexed on how I feel. Not sure if I feel bad for her or if I felt she should have just sucked it up. She started off as the typical whiny, annoying TV wife but I thought her character grew beyond that. And honestly she may have had the most character development out of any of the others outside of Walter. The only thing I didn't like was they never really explained why she was able to look pass her boss embezzling money but villify Walt for cooking Meth.

Walt Jr-Useless character, added nothing to the show.


Saul-Provided comedy relief, a well acted character. Not very much to say about him though. He was what he was.


Walt Sr.-I was never in support of this character. From the onset I could see dude was hungry for power. It was never really about the money with him, that just came along with it. His misgiving, I guess starting with the Grey Matter debacle ending with him being a common Chemistry teacher and I can see why he would want something more out of life before passing away. But for all the shyt I give Jesse for making awful decisions, Walt made just as many. It made no sense for him not to take the money from his friends for the treatment or except a position in a company he help build. It all spiraled out of control from there. Watching him act as if he was a kingpin was quite painful though, I just couldn't take him seriously and just waited for his card to be pulled. But being the star of the show of course he outthinks and outsmarts everyone until he gets shot by his own gun, all to let a snitch get away that would have had him in jail if he wasn't rescued by Jesse's people. The character just got away with to much IMO.

Wrote all of that and got NO daps...

 

[Francis White]

Wrote all of that and got NO daps...

You know he wanted attention so bad, I gave him some negative rep for his effort.

 

[wire28]

Just finished Breaking Bad, for those that don't want to read this entire review I rate the series 4/5 and in my top 10 of alltime shows. The show, IMO had a very slow start and it was quite the struggle to complete the first season. This seems to be a common thought everywhere except for mostly on TheColi but if you pay attention a lot of other people feel the same way on here as well. What also kept this series for being great to me is that it required a certain suspension of belief on numerous occasions. It wasn't Dexter level bad, but at times I thought it was to much. Now some character break down.


Hank and the DEA- Not sure if we are ever supposed to take them seriously as an advesary or a threat to bust Walter. From the very beginning we are shown how inept they are by not securing a perimeter and allowing Pinkman to escape. How do you do a bust without knowing who exactly you are busting anyway. And apparently the tip came from there own snitch who didn't advise who exactly he was snitching on in which I'm sure he didn't intentionally want his cousin arrested.
But besides that there are numerous other occasion where they just don't get a the job done. Also I'm not sure of why or what the intentions were in regards to Hanks reactions to shooting Tuco, and then the event in El Paso. Also I felt that Texas should have been tied into the story at some point as well. In regards to Hank in the line of duty he seemed to handle himself well, its everywhere else that he sucked. Not much character developed for Hank but not much was required. Typical macho cop type.


Gus- I thought was a very interesting character. I just hated the way he went out. Dude sniffed a car bomb out of thin air, then recklessly goes to visit an advesary after they had just left the DEA. Up until that point he had played everything cool and never got to emotional. Going to visit the old man in the manner he did I thought was quite out of character for him. Dope character though.

Mike-Very thorough character, another one of my favorites. I again hated how he went out. To have a dude that is such a professional in everything he does to get taken out by the likes of a wannabe like Walt didn't do that character any justice. I honestly expected him to know the gun was missing just based on the weight of the bag when Walt handed it to him. That his how thorough I thought he was. Dude just wanted his granddaughter to be taken care of smh.


Jesse Pinkman-There wasn't a moment in this series that I felt bad for Jesse. Dude consistently made bad decision after bad decision without thinking of the possible consequences to anyone around him. Then, just when I was starting to have a glimmer of hope that his character would develop he turns snitch and I realize its still the same whiny ass, big baby, Jesse Pinkman from the very first season. Everyone wondering what exactly happens with Jesse, I can tell you, dude is somewhere making an awful decision that will likely get someone killed.


Jesse- Dude went from killing roaches to damn near being a kingpin in record time. Would have beat Walts record by a mile.


Skylar-The one character I am perplexed on how I feel. Not sure if I feel bad for her or if I felt she should have just sucked it up. She started off as the typical whiny, annoying TV wife but I thought her character grew beyond that. And honestly she may have had the most character development out of any of the others outside of Walter. The only thing I didn't like was they never really explained why she was able to look pass her boss embezzling money but villify Walt for cooking Meth.

Walt Jr-Useless character, added nothing to the show.


Saul-Provided comedy relief, a well acted character. Not very much to say about him though. He was what he was.


Walt Sr.-I was never in support of this character. From the onset I could see dude was hungry for power. It was never really about the money with him, that just came along with it. His misgiving, I guess starting with the Grey Matter debacle ending with him being a common Chemistry teacher and I can see why he would want something more out of life before passing away. But for all the shyt I give Jesse for making awful decisions, Walt made just as many. It made no sense for him not to take the money from his friends for the treatment or except a position in a company he help build. It all spiraled out of control from there. Watching him act as if he was a kingpin was quite painful though, I just couldn't take him seriously and just waited for his card to be pulled. But being the star of the show of course he outthinks and outsmarts everyone until he gets shot by his own gun, all to let a snitch get away that would have had him in jail if he wasn't rescued by Jesse's people. The character just got away with to much IMO.

damn lol

i assume you say it has the GOAT cinematography, music, editing, theme song, script, if it can be in your top 10 and you hated so much about the characters lol

He went over by $132????

my nikka jesse just cant never win

 

[hex]

Just finished Breaking Bad, for those that don't want to read this entire review I rate the series 4/5 and in my top 10 of alltime shows. The show, IMO had a very slow start and it was quite the struggle to complete the first season. This seems to be a common thought everywhere except for mostly on TheColi but if you pay attention a lot of other people feel the same way on here as well. What also kept this series for being great to me is that it required a certain suspension of belief on numerous occasions. It wasn't Dexter level bad, but at times I thought it was to much. Now some character break down.


Hank and the DEA- Not sure if we are ever supposed to take them seriously as an advesary or a threat to bust Walter. From the very beginning we are shown how inept they are by not securing a perimeter and allowing Pinkman to escape. How do you do a bust without knowing who exactly you are busting anyway. And apparently the tip came from there own snitch who didn't advise who exactly he was snitching on in which I'm sure he didn't intentionally want his cousin arrested.
But besides that there are numerous other occasion where they just don't get a the job done. Also I'm not sure of why or what the intentions were in regards to Hanks reactions to shooting Tuco, and then the event in El Paso. Also I felt that Texas should have been tied into the story at some point as well. In regards to Hank in the line of duty he seemed to handle himself well, its everywhere else that he sucked. Not much character developed for Hank but not much was required. Typical macho cop type.


Gus- I thought was a very interesting character. I just hated the way he went out. Dude sniffed a car bomb out of thin air, then recklessly goes to visit an advesary after they had just left the DEA. Up until that point he had played everything cool and never got to emotional. Going to visit the old man in the manner he did I thought was quite out of character for him. Dope character though.

Mike-Very thorough character, another one of my favorites. I again hated how he went out. To have a dude that is such a professional in everything he does to get taken out by the likes of a wannabe like Walt didn't do that character any justice. I honestly expected him to know the gun was missing just based on the weight of the bag when Walt handed it to him. That his how thorough I thought he was. Dude just wanted his granddaughter to be taken care of smh.


Jesse Pinkman-There wasn't a moment in this series that I felt bad for Jesse. Dude consistently made bad decision after bad decision without thinking of the possible consequences to anyone around him. Then, just when I was starting to have a glimmer of hope that his character would develop he turns snitch and I realize its still the same whiny ass, big baby, Jesse Pinkman from the very first season. Everyone wondering what exactly happens with Jesse, I can tell you, dude is somewhere making an awful decision that will likely get someone killed.


Jesse- Dude went from killing roaches to damn near being a kingpin in record time. Would have beat Walts record by a mile.


Skylar-The one character I am perplexed on how I feel. Not sure if I feel bad for her or if I felt she should have just sucked it up. She started off as the typical whiny, annoying TV wife but I thought her character grew beyond that. And honestly she may have had the most character development out of any of the others outside of Walter. The only thing I didn't like was they never really explained why she was able to look pass her boss embezzling money but villify Walt for cooking Meth.

Walt Jr-Useless character, added nothing to the show.


Saul-Provided comedy relief, a well acted character. Not very much to say about him though. He was what he was.


Walt Sr.-I was never in support of this character. From the onset I could see dude was hungry for power. It was never really about the money with him, that just came along with it. His misgiving, I guess starting with the Grey Matter debacle ending with him being a common Chemistry teacher and I can see why he would want something more out of life before passing away. But for all the shyt I give Jesse for making awful decisions, Walt made just as many. It made no sense for him not to take the money from his friends for the treatment or except a position in a company he help build. It all spiraled out of control from there. Watching him act as if he was a kingpin was quite painful though, I just couldn't take him seriously and just waited for his card to be pulled. But being the star of the show of course he outthinks and outsmarts everyone until he gets shot by his own gun, all to let a snitch get away that would have had him in jail if he wasn't rescued by Jesse's people. The character just got away with to much IMO.

That's your opinion.

I need to address a couple things though.

1. Gretchen and Elliot were not his friends. They hadn't spoken in years. Him not accepting the money makes perfect sense for the character. He feels like they stole his work and made billions off it. In season 5, episode 6 he tells Jesse he checks their stock every week, reliving that L.

Now, whether or not he's justified in thinking they stole his work is another topic. But given what we later learn about Walt, if you paid any attention to the character there's no way in hell he'd accept charity from them.

2. There's a common misconception that Walt continually won due to Bryan Cranston being the "star" of the show....which is hilarious because prior to season 5 nobody was watching "Breaking Bad". It actually almost got cancelled.

His character arc from loser to kingpin was pitched in the very first meetings with the networks, before a single scene had been filmed. Before they even knew the actor that would play Walter White. The whole point of the series is to take a good man, and turn him into a villain. That's kind of hard to do if you kill the guy off, or constantly hand him Ls. At some point he has to start winning, otherwise you have 5 seasons of transformation with no pay off.

Fred.

 

[Numpsay]

That's your opinion.

I need to address a couple things though.

1. Gretchen and Elliot were not his friends. They hadn't spoken in years. Him not accepting the money makes perfect sense for the character. He feels like they stole his work and made billions off it. In season 5, episode 6 he tells Jesse he checks their stock every week, reliving that L.

Now, whether or not he's justified in thinking they stole his work is another topic. But given what we later learn about Walt, if you paid any attention to the character there's no way in hell he'd accept charity from them.

2. There's a common misconception that Walt continually won due to Bryan Cranston being the "star" of the show....which is hilarious because prior to season 5 nobody was watching "Breaking Bad". It actually almost got cancelled.

His character arc from loser to kingpin was pitched in the very first meetings with the networks, before a single scene had been filmed. Before they even knew the actor that would play Walter White. The whole point of the series is to take a good man, and turn him into a villain. That's kind of hard to do if you kill the guy off, or constantly hand him Ls. At some point he has to start winning, otherwise you have 5 seasons of transformation with no pay off.

Fred.

Maybe I'm not remembering clearly but did he just randomnly get invited to the birthday party? And he brought a real sentimental gift for someone he wouldn't consider a friend in that moment in time.

And I thought it was quite clear he got his heart broken by Gretchen and then pussied out and walked away from the company by selling his stock to the remaining two partners for a mere 5k.


I understand the point of the show, and I understand just how a star of the show has to be treated but Walt was walking on water at times.