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Alexandria Ocasio Cortez - "Not All Dems Are The Same"
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Th3G3ntleman
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Bruh...these checks are coming months from now. The same people are going to be starving regardless. The only difference is we've sold out the country to Wall Street for the next 20 years with this bullshyt stimulus bill.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
They're coming within 3 weeks for millions of people who do their taxes online and have direct deposit set up. Some will likely get there shyt in 2 weeks. Same way the IRS tells you that your refund will be there in 3 weeks and it arrives earlier.
The bill is trash, but end of the day what was the play? Best option would have been for Pelosi to pass a different bill and send it back to the senate. But the senate recess was in McConnell's back pocket. He could simply re-pass the old bill and send his people home. It was a game of hot potato.
AOC Isn't 'Breaking' With Bernie, She's Evolving Beyond Him—as Progressive Politics Must
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has natural political chops that it's dangerous to underestimate.
By Charles P. Pierce
Mar 30, 2020
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In the realm of ordinary politics in extraordinary times, this Politico story about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is causing no little buzz in and around the Intertoobz. Ever since she backed Nancy Pelosi for the speakership in the newly elected Democratic-majority House of Representatives, I’ve been telling people that she has natural political chops that it's dangerous to underestimate. (Among the members of the Squad, AOC is second only to Ayanna Pressley in this regard.) Now, of course, some of the performative Left have their purity in a knot because she’s demonstrating this again.
The piece frames this as AOC vs. Bernie Sanders, which is unfortunate, and it begins with an anecdote from the wrong campaign in 2018. The real mistake AOC made was opposing Sharice Davids’s campaign in Kansas. She and Sanders lined up behind Brent Welder, a former Sanders staffer, against a gay Native American woman running on a shoestring. One of AOC’s major political talents is that she learns from mistakes and never makes the same one again.
Of the half-dozen incumbent primary challengers Justice Democrats is backing this cycle, Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed just two. Neither was a particularly risky move: Both candidates — Jessica Cisneros in Texas and Marie Newman in Illinois — were taking on conservative Democrats who oppose abortion rights and later earned the support of several prominent national Democrats.Ocasio-Cortez’s reluctance marks a break with the outsider tactics of the activist left, represented by groups like Justice Democrats. This election cycle, the organization is trying to boot not just conservative Democrats but also some liberal Democrats and to replace them with members who are more left-wing. In other words, to replicate what it pulled off against Rep. Joe Crowley in 2018 by recruiting Ocasio-Cortez.
Framing this as AOC “breaking” with Sanders is an easy narrative trope on which to hang a story, but it slights AOC’s time in Congress itself. For a rookie who not long ago was taking drink orders, AOC has proven herself to be an aggressive and informed questioner in committee hearings. (I hear mixed things about her constituent service, and the wingnut press has been beating its little tin drums about it, but I also hear that it’s gotten better.) And it also elides the fact that, when Sanders was hospitalized with a heart attack, AOC pretty much became the Sanders campaign, and it can be argued that she rescued it completely. She isn’t “breaking” with Bernie. She’s evolving beyond him, as progressive politics must. Her first re-election is critical to this process. For right now, she’s far more interesting than her detractors, left or right, let on.
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Charles P. Pierce Charles P Pierce is the author of four books, most recently Idiot America, and has been a working journalist since 1976.
Th3G3ntleman
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Bruh this administration has been lying almost daily for almost 4 years. Why do you believe this?
My issue with the bill is the concept that the bailout needed to be attached to relief in the first place. There is no reason for the two to be aligned together. Anything after that is mostly useless.
New Jeruzalem Journalist
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It sounds like some of you are placing way too much of an emphasis on how damaging criticizing the party is. Bernie didn't lose because he called out the Dem establishment and AOC isn't gonna get a GND, M4A, or any signature policies taken seriously by choosing to remain silent about their hypocrisy and prostitution.
The target is on their back when they challenge their power. Her challenging Crowley put the target on her back. Same goes with Bernie.
This whole thing is a bit silly to be frank.
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Yeah,I don't think that's why he lost but if he was less combative with the party and the media maybe he would have gotten fairer coverage. If he actually reached out to his fellow Congress members and seeked their support maybe they would have been helpful or at least neutral. He needed more support from the Establishment OR he needed to go scorched Earth on some Trump shyt and shyt all over everyone. But we know Bernie is too nice a guy and not exciting enough of a guy to play the heel. He had to go the other way and coalition build. He didn't do enough of that.It sounds like some of you are placing way too much of an emphasis on how damaging criticizing the party is. Bernie didn't lose because he called out the Dem establishment and AOC isn't gonna get a GND, M4A, or any signature policies taken seriously by choosing to remain silent about their hypocrisy and prostitution.
The target is on their back when they challenge their power. Her challenging Crowley put the target on her back. Same goes with Bernie.
This whole thing is a bit silly to be frank.
iceberg_is_on_fire
Wearing Lions gear when it wasn't cool
Also, Bernie has the most annoying people speaking for him. It compounds his problems.
NZA
LOL
just have to keep on eye on AOC. i agree with her political tendencies to shift between outsider and insider at strategic moments, but she has to remember not to lose sight of what is going on. the neera tandens of the world praising you is neither good or bad, but ending up doing real policy that she likes is almost always bad, so AOC will have to keep these moments primarily symbolic and maybe only throw the establishment a bone on small things. never the tentpole things. this current bill sucks but im not losing sleep over it. there will be far bigger things going on later that will let me know if she will remain an asset.
PoorAndDangerous
Superstar
The establishment was never going to give Bernie a fair shake, he played very nice with them and look at what that got him. He should’ve gone on full attack mode.
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Bernie going to the Trump playbook wouldn't have worked. He's just not that type of person. He was also unwilling, he is cool with Biden and refused harsher attacks. Maybe he had all the right ideas but wasn't the right politician to use them to get elected.