Yea i thought covert coup was trash and i havnt heard the rest. No one is talking about covert coup anymore. His beats have started to sound similiar and with the influx of superior producers hitting the scene he doesnt fit in anymore with his generic sounding beats.
Alchemist speaks on new album, why his beats aren't good enough, and working with Nas
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Yea i thought covert coup was trash and i havnt heard the rest. No one is talking about covert coup anymore. His beats have started to sound similiar and with the influx of superior producers hitting the scene he doesnt fit in anymore with his generic sounding beats.
TheDarceKnight
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90% of everyone that heard Covert Coup thought the production was great, but that's another story. Different tastes, fine. But you can't say it was generic. Those beats are anything but generic. Who the hell flips a Jpanaese anime, a Playstation racing game, Eastern European prog rock, Barry White, Lyn Collins, and the Robin Thompson Band all on one album and have it blend together. Anyways, stepping away from Covert Coup.
But, Doesn't fit into what? If anything, his beats are starting to sound NOT similar at all? Nothing on Covert Coup sounds like anything on Roulette, which sounds nothing like what he did for Rick Ross, which sounds very different from what he did on Cats & Dogs.
You gonna say that red Carpet with Evidence, Raekwon, and Ras Kass was a generic beat? Lots of people said that was one of their favorite beats of his ever.
Influx of superior producers??? Who? Most of the best producers our right now have been around for at least a few years if not a long time. Nottz, Jake One, Kanye West, Just Blaze, 9th Wonder, Alchemist, Ski, No ID, JUSTICE League, Toomp, DJ Khalil, Black Milk, Statik, Mr. Porter, DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Sid Roams, Bukwild, Tip, Havoc, Madlib, Muggs, Dre, Hit-Boy, S-1...
So who are these superior producers that are newcomers?
If you don't like the music fine, but to call it generic the face of "this influx of superior talent" is laughable.
Link that shyt bytch
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
All I got online is some snippets and stuff but here you go. I tried to link some of the stuff he played on 9th Wonder's Ustream qhen he was finishing the album here in NC but the links are no longer up. He played some ALC joints and some that he recorded with 9th Wonder and the Soul Council.
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TheDarceKnight
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Anyone know the joint at 2:28?
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cimalee
Rookie
u smoking crack b , russian roulette is for the crate diggers , not for mafukkas who dont follow the culture
cimalee
Rookie
nore and al are like best friends , I know Nore would funk that beat up
Smokebreak
Pro
just because an artist is great and a beat is great doesn't mean that beat would work for him.i couldnt imagine him flowing on that..and lox was perfect for that beat.
cimalee
Rookie
some people prolly think that kayne is A dope producer pro;;y havent made a beat in 10 years 
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
some people prolly think that kayne is A dope producer pro;;y havent made a beat in 10 years
TEN years fam? You're my dude, but I think that's stretching it. That would mean nothing BP2 and after is any good? I enjoyed a lot of what he did on Graduation.
beenz
Rap Guerilla
No excuse at all. And when is he gonna hook up a track for Hov???
Personally, I couldn't get intO russian roulette. It was too out there wih shytty rappers.
prophecypro
Hollywood North
When did the story come about on Nas passing on We Gon Make it? Given the Jadakiss/Rass Kass situation that would have been funny.
Alchemist did work or submit some stuff for this album cause I remember him mentioning it last year, we'll have to see where it pops up.
But they have worked together on other people's projects together...most notably Mobb Deep.
Alchemist did work or submit some stuff for this album cause I remember him mentioning it last year, we'll have to see where it pops up.
But they have worked together on other people's projects together...most notably Mobb Deep.
Alc himself has said that both Nas and Jay-Z had the chance to get the beat before Jadakiss, he even said Nas recorded to it...