Alabama basketball player charged with murder- Update Projected lottery pick provided gun

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Some team is going to have to draft and deal with this kids lack of class. I understand it if he thinks he didn't do anything wrong...but this just shows something is not right with him, imo. Also, damn, nobody on the team ain't big bro him over this is crazy. Just because the best player doesn't mean you let him get away with acting like a sociopath.

His big bro on the team almost got him caught up in a murder rap :mjlol:

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Bro, we’ve been down this path before and you ended up leaving the calling and asking for me to be banned. Let it go. :francis:

Leaving the calling? WTF does that even mean?

I tore you apart in the other thread because you're a disingenuous shythead who lets his Trumper best friends impact his morality far too much. You were using purposely bad faith arguments that are supposedly banned for HL. What does that have to do with the Coliseum.?




Not to derail the thread any further why are you calling for this young man to be arrested? Based on what laws? :ufdup:

Ah, look at that, more lying. What a surprise.

I've never once said he should be arrested. If he were, the charges would be accessory to murder. Those would be appropriate charges if he knew someone would get shot or that there was a high probability of doing so before he provided the gun. They're never going to prove those charges in court because they don't have direct beyond-a-reasonable-doubt evidence of Miller's own thought process and rarely do, which is why such charges usually only stick on poor defendants without good legal representation.

The only thing we have been arguing is what Alabama should do. And I felt Alabama should have sat his ass down for a while if not suspended him from the season altogether, because a young black woman is dead due to the decisions he made and they have to send a message that enabling this sort of violence is wrong, and the precedent it sets suggests that no one has to bear responsibility for actions like Miller's, which only makes it more likely to happen again.
 

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The university of Alabama was not responsible for the death of the woman. This was 1 individual making a personal decision that didn't have shyt to do with the school.


Read the room, idiot. Did you see the video we're talking about? Alabama blatantly downplayed his involvement with her death because he's their star, the family has already caught feelings over how Alabama has handled it, and shyt like that pregame continues to prove that they just don't give a fukk and feel like they can do whatever they want.
 

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I've never once said he should be arrested. If he were, the charges would be accessory to murder. Those would be appropriate charges if he knew someone would get shot or that there was a high probability of doing so before he provided the gun. They're never going to prove those charges in court because they don't have direct beyond-a-reasonable-doubt evidence of Miller's own thought process and rarely do, which is why such charges usually only stick on poor defendants without good legal representation.

The only thing we have been arguing is what Alabama should do. And I felt Alabama should have sat his ass down for a while if not suspended him from the season altogether, because a young black woman is dead due to the decisions he made and they have to send a message that enabling this sort of violence is wrong, and the precedent it sets suggests that no one has to bear responsibility for actions like Miller's, which only makes it more likely to happen again.
:mjlol:
So you want Alabama to punish him because he didn’t break a law?

But the reality is, you think he broke a law and you would be happy if he were arrested, but you’re just tap dancing around it because I called you out on your hypocrisy.

:mjlol:
 

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It was on espn they listed the timeline of texts.

Miles texted Miller , I’m paraphrasing, ‘how long you gon be’ at iirc 1:03—with no mention of a gun (iirc)

(To my point anout bad reporting, why wasn’t this mentioned?! I hadn’t seen it mentioned until that ESPN graphic)

It wasn’t til 1:40 Miles texts Miler "I need my joint a n****r rl jus got fakin".

According to video, Miller pulls up at 1:43. Shots fired at 1:45

So that timeline implies Miller was well on his way—-with no knowledge of a gun—- before getting that ‘I need my joint’ text


Breh, that proves the exact opposite of what you think. Miles texted him "I need my joint", but doesn't tell him where to get his joint. Why would he have texted that unless Miller ALREADY knew where the gun was? And Miller didn't have to reply asking him wtf he was talking about, because Miller knew exactly what he was talking about.

Even Miller's lawyer in that long-ass statement never said that Miller didn't know about the gun, and the lawyer spent a ton of energy trying to downplay Miller's involvement with the gun. Why are y'all caping for him even harder than his lawyer is?
 

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Read the room, idiot. Did you see the video we're talking about? Alabama blatantly downplayed his involvement with her death because he's their star, the family has already caught feelings over how Alabama has handled it, and shyt like that pregame continues to prove that they just don't give a fukk and feel like they can do whatever they want.
The justice system downplayed his role in his involvement, the school just stepped out the way and let the system do what's it supposed to do. You can't just go off disciplining players and implicating them in crimes cause some people are hurt/grieving. The world doesn't work like that. The reality is brandon miller didn't kill the woman and there isn't any proof that he intended for her to be killed. Accordingly he shouldn't face any consequences and the school should keep it pushing as if he didn't commit a crime because...he didn't.
 

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Breh, that proves the exact opposite of what you think. Miles texted him "I need my joint", but doesn't tell him where to get his joint. Why would he have texted that unless Miller ALREADY knew where the gun was? And Miller didn't have to reply asking him wtf he was talking about, because Miller knew exactly what he was talking about.

Even Miller's lawyer in that long-ass statement never said that Miller didn't know about the gun, and the lawyer spent a ton of energy trying to downplay Miller's involvement with the gun. Why are y'all caping for him even harder than his lawyer is?
Even if miller knew about the gun, it's irrelevant because the evidence shows he was going there to pick him up not to deliver a gun. Evidence shows Milller had no knowledge of the situation until he was literally a couple minutes away. Which is why he ultimately was ruled out for wrongdoing relatively quickly.
 

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All these situations that get brushed aside because “we’ll look what happened last time” add to the problem and normalizes the violence. We as a society choose what to normalize and this is part of that same problem.


This. People who are saying, "Well, you shouldn't criticize how Alabama is responding because sports colleges are naturally immoral" or "in America such casual acceptance of gun violence is acceptable so who are you to say something" are just adding to the problem.

Sports colleges are inherently immoral because we tolerate their immorality in the name of sports. America casually accepts gun violence because we don't stand up and hold people accountable.

Like I said earlier, hotheads who want to kill someone don't think about the consequences, they just do it. That's been demonstrated over and over - they aren't thinking rationally when they commit violent crimes so rational deterrences aren't effective. Nothing you do is going to stop them from killing if they have the power to do so. So if you want black folk to stop dying in gun violence, you have to do something about the people who enable those hotheads. If people knew there were repercussions to enabling others to make these things happen, then they would think twice between participating in a situation where shyt might go down.
 

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“Based on what we know, the declination by the Tuscaloosa DA is correct and Miller should not be charged,’’ said Jay Town, a former U.S. Attorney and prosecutor in Madison County. “It doesn’t appear evidence exists that Miller knew that transferring the firearm was for an unlawful purpose, hindsight notwithstanding.”

“Therefore, no (conspiracy or aiding and abetting) would apply,’’ Town added. “It doesn’t seem there is a federal theory of prosecution either,’’ under federal laws.
 

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Read the room, idiot. Did you see the video we're talking about? Alabama blatantly downplayed his involvement with her death because he's their star, the family has already caught feelings over how Alabama has handled it, and shyt like that pregame continues to prove that they just don't give a fukk and feel like they can do whatever they want.
Alabama’s biggest mistake was pretending buddy missed the game for an ankle injury instead of a murder investigation.

They certainly could have said Miller was there, but wasn’t a suspect.

The school clearly doesn’t care, but that isn’t an excuse to suspend a player who wasn’t accused of any wrongdoing just because you don’t think they care enough.
 

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Expectedly, Brandon Miller got a warm ovation from the Coleman Coliseum crowd on Saturday afternoon. In Alabama basketball’s second-to-last home game of the season, while players partook in their pregame introduction routine, each starter was announced and did a specific handshake with a walk-on as their name was called through the arena.

When it was Miller’s turn, he stretched his arms out and was patted down as if he were being checked for weapons.






Goofy
 

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In New York the gun illegal in Alabama its a legal firearm.
Honestly that might be the issue of contention.
Good point.

It's clear Americans don't give a fukk (and choose not to give a fukk) about gun violence, not enough to change laws and customs to reduce deaths.

So in that environment, asking UA to ban/suspend one of their students loosely tied (but not criminally connected) to a gun murder? They're well within their rights to tell you to fukk off.
Once again don’t try to make a point by leaning into bullshyt. A fukking college sports program is entertainment and has no morals just win totals. Look at Joe Pa and Penn State.

They are going to do what they want but don’t frame that act like it’s right or infer’s innocence. Even the phrasing “well within their rights” is horse shyt that might feel smart to use but that phrase has been used to justify and ignore some real evil shyt.
 
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Expectedly, Brandon Miller got a warm ovation from the Coleman Coliseum crowd on Saturday afternoon. In Alabama basketball’s second-to-last home game of the season, while players partook in their pregame introduction routine, each starter was announced and did a specific handshake with a walk-on as their name was called through the arena.

When it was Miller’s turn, he stretched his arms out and was patted down as if he were being checked for weapons.






Goofy


Dude is either slow or purposely trolling. I don't even care if that was his regular routine, a light bulb has to pop up in his head and tell him that he shouldn't do that anymore.
 

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Dude is either slow or purposely trolling. I don't even care if that was his regular routine, a light bulb has to pop up in his head and tell him that he shouldn't do that anymore.
Let’s be real. He clearly trolling and doesn’t give a fukk.

His boy got into with someone to the point that it ended in a shooting. His car was shot.

I doubt he gives a single fukk about them.
 
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