There has been black Africans and freed slaves ruling over Arabs as well (i.e. the Mamluks in Egypt)
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There has been black Africans and freed slaves ruling over Arabs as well (i.e. the Mamluks in Egypt)
Yeah, a lot of free blacks resided in the region and a number of Arabs also participated in the revolts it seems
I'm aware of that. Most people don't know.
You should check this out.
Man the Zanj and Abyssinians were literally EVERYWHERE!!! Even as far as China! The Zanj before Islam were even trading with the Romans and maybe Greeks.
Indeed, but you should check this out....Yeah, a lot of free blacks resided in the region and a number of Arabs also participated in the revolts it seems
M. A. Shaban's Islamic History: A.D. 750-1055 (A.H. 132-448) in the section "Regional Economic Conflicts":
"All the talk about slaves rising against the wretched conditions of work in the salt marshes of Basra is a figment of the imagination and has no support in the sources. [...] The vast majority of the rebels were Arabs of the Persian Gulf supported by free East Africans who had made their homes in the region [...] If more proof is needed that it was not a slave revolt, it is to be found in the fact that it had a highly organized army and navy which vigorously resisted the whole weight of the central government for almost fifteen years.Moreover, it must have had huge resources that allowed it to build no less than six impregnable towns in which there were arsenals for the manufacture of weapons and battleships. These towns also had in their mammoth markets prodigious wealth which was more than the salt marshes could conceivably produce. Even all the booty from Basra and the whole region could not account for such enormous wealth.Significantly the revolt had the backing of a certain group of merchants who persevered with their support until the very end. Tabari makes it very clear that the strength of the rebels was dependent on the support of these merchants."
"With remarkable efficiency and expedition the rebels swiftly established their control over most of the Persian Gulf coast, and extended it inland to secure their food supplies. Special vehemence was reserved for the port of Basra, which they practically destroyed. Their choice of sites for their own new towns and their meticulous knowledge of the intricate waterways of the region in addition to their great skill in naval warfare were all utilized to strangle the Basran economy and drive all the in-coming trade through their own channels."
I got to give you my 
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I see you in many parts of the coli dropping knowledge and facts breh
@KidStranglehold I see you in many parts of the coli dropping knowledge and facts breh
I got to give you my
I see you in many parts of the coli dropping knowledge and facts breh
you better give props to the man who made this thread
I think your more knowledgeable than me on the Zanj rebellion and Muslim African history in general, do you think the Zanj rebellion wasn't really a slave one?you better give props to the man who made this thread
you better give props to the man who made this thread
My bad for this transgression, my fellow LWO brethren
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Arent you Somali? If so I have a question regarding Somalis role in the Indian ocean trade.
Arent you Somali? If so I have a question regarding Somalis role in the Indian ocean trade.
In my opinion? No. This is due to the fact that the first mention of it being a slave revolt came relatively recently right? Even this superiority document makes no mention of a slave revolt
Although do you think it could have been a slave revolt that was then exploited by east african merchants for their benefit?
I'm going to buy this book soon http://books.google.ca/books/about/The_revolt_of_the_Zanj.html?id=-ctgf6WSCPMC&redir_esc=y
it details the event from a contemporary source
Nah, I'm not
I thought you were because I usually use to see you in convos in involving Somalis.
My bad.
I thought you were because I usually use to see you in convos in involving Somalis.
My bad.
There's a number of somalis/horners here and they're good people
abraham's side piece IE the egyptian was the mother of the arabs..
Thanks!
But the Zanj revolt is very confusing, especially when you bring up East African merchants. Slave revolt or not I hear that the Zanj/blacks werent the majority but were funded by East African merchants other times I hear they were the majority, thought its usually when the revolt is labeled as a "slave revolt". Which one is it? And if the Zanj weren't the majority than why was the revolt named after them???
And are the blacks in Iraq/Iran mostly descendants of slaves?