Ah **** man there goes that tax benefit!

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"Taken on its own, the deduction limit wouldn't make a huge difference. But it can play an important role in a broad plan to cut the deficit, and shows a willingness to tackle once sacred cows. The tax numbers suggest it may not be hard to structure deduction limits in a way that leaves most middle-income households untouched."

"There are broader approaches, too. In its proposed budget, the Obama administration plans to focus on top earners. The administration suggests capping deductions at 28 percent for high-income households, those earning more than $250,000.

Shut up dude, if you don't make over 250k you will not be affected

I don't believe them. They're politicians. Sure it may start that way, but give it a few years.
 

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What would you cut to close the $1.1T deficit? Also bear in mind that $1.1T deficit = $1.1T or ~7% of US economic activity

I dunno breh I'm not an economist. And I sure as hell am not about to go through the budget and list off things that I'd cut, because I'm sure you could come up with a counter-argument for why we need each one of those things, just for the sake of argument. But what I'm saying is, we need to change the culture in this country away from "We need money? Lets tax it out of them!" to "We need money? Where can we start to cut?" aka, spending less all around
 

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I dunno breh I'm not an economist. And I sure as hell am not about to go through the budget and list off things that I'd cut, because I'm sure you could come up with a counter-argument for why we need each one of those things, just for the sake of argument. But what I'm saying is, we need to change the culture in this country away from "We need money? Lets tax it out of them!" to "We need money? Where can we start to cut?" aka, spending less all around
Effective tax rates are at their lowest points in history for much of the country. As far as income tax goes the govt is literally paying half the country taxes instead of the other way around. We can cut too but to cry about taxes being too high for the avg American is either a product of not knowing what is going on or just outright lying.

No matter how you slice it, taxes are lower now for at least 80% of the country than they've ever been.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=456
 

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I dunno breh I'm not an economist. And I sure as hell am not about to go through the budget and list off things that I'd cut, because I'm sure you could come up with a counter-argument for why we need each one of those things, just for the sake of argument. But what I'm saying is, we need to change the culture in this country away from "We need money? Lets tax it out of them!" to "We need money? Where can we start to cut?" aka, spending less all around

:comeon: the government does more for you with your tax money than you can do for yourself
 

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:wtf: I had.... no idea that's what we were talking about.

And while we're on topic, they also waste far more than I ever could.

Waste is based in your narrow perspective.

What is waste to sim could be a benefit to others.

If we are talking macro economics. You making money saving it and dying is a waste
 

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Waste is based in your narrow perspective.

What is waste to sim could be a benefit to others.

If we are talking macro economics. You making money saving it and dying is a waste

Well, yea. My life = my perspective. That part was obvious.

How is passing on wealth to my heirs wasting anything?
 

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How are they going to generate more revenue... without making you pay more :wtf:

Especially considering most middle class Americans have a negative to single % point effective tax rate.... even though their marginal rates are in the 10-15% range :what:

"They need to fix this budget problem but I dont want to pay any more taxes than I do" - EVERYBODY :dwillhuh:

Where is the revenue supposed to come from
Rich people. Corporations.

You know how many tax loopholes allow these fukks to pay virtually NO taxes? Wasn't mittens paying like 13% in income taxes? :russ:
 

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I'm just going to have to come to terms that the government is going transfer all my wealth to the state.
 

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Rich people. Corporations.

You know how many tax loopholes allow these fukks to pay virtually NO taxes? Wasn't mittens paying like 13% in income taxes? :russ:

Mitt does pay like 13%, but thats more than most of the country paying 0 to negative percent (i.e. getting more back than they paid through the year)

Most "rich" people (1%ers) pay ~20-25%. Wifey and I are like a 15%ile household and our federal tax rate is less than 10% If we are going to talk about low taxes lets talk about everybody
 

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Mitt does pay like 13%, but thats more than most of the country paying 0 to negative percent (i.e. getting more back than they paid through the year)

Most "rich" people (1%ers) pay ~20-25%. Wifey and I are like a 15%ile household and our federal tax rate is less than 10% If we are going to talk about low taxes lets talk about everybody

You're reaching the point of being intolerable and you're rarely coherent, but I'll let the rest of these guys have at you.
 
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