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[Sonic Boom of the South]

lol The only reason Humans have consciousness and highly developed brains is because of their heavy protein diets that began once they learned how to cook meat. Keep kicking that vegan nonsense though.

you do know that there are sources of vegetable proteins right

 

[concise]

@concise it's not weird, don't knock it till ya try it.

It's not lab-made stuff, is it?

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom....No real benefits to VEGANOMETRY....its what the cool kids/hipsters/ yoga clique are preaching..

MY 2 cents (& no disrespect to @Elle Driver eating habits) on the V movement is of a SMH nature...... if you think about it, since the dawn of time man has been eating meat OUT OF NECESSITY. If it weren't necessary then our ancient ancestors would have just foraged for roots berries and the like only. Instead they not only ate animals, they followed the animals if they migrated since that was their main food source. That's how man first came to what's now our homes (geographically speaking) , by following it's food. So if we decide, as an individual, to not eat meat, are we not fighting millions of years of evolution..technically speaking ?

To conclude my ancestors both human & "pre-human" have spent hundreds of millions of years to get me to the top of the food chain. It would be grossly disrespectful of that legacy to start eating twigs and rocks under some delusion of righteousness Man did not fashion spears from wood & stone in order to hunt down carrots. Nature is always striving towards efficiency in her designs, our large brain would be more of a hinderance if we didn't apply it to a useful purpose. And that useful purpose was to kill things to eat. Sure its side effect allowed us to construct other things and take our survival into our own hands...but at its core, our intelligence is likely just a solution to natures classic problem of finding enough food......Its true humans do not share many traits with traditional carnivores. But humans do not share a lot of their defining traits with traditional animals period. Regardless, we aren't carnivores, we're omnivores, granted that traditional carnivores are born with their tools and skills attached them. Humans fashion them from their surroundings. Human's didn't need developed canines to make the kill, or even strong jaws.

Once upon a time kicking small talk with a hot tofu eating... yoga pursuing chick;

Her: So whats your diet like?

Me: Lots of Red meat & Fish

Her: Oh... like a cavemen then

Me: No. Like a BOSS

you need to do research
meat protein is far more likely to lead to various types of cancer than vegetable proteins


men tend to consume more meat in their diets than women and have always lived a shorter life compared to females

also one of the main factors leading to men having ED is the over abundance of meat they consume

 

[Elle Driver]

It's not lab-made stuff, is it?

No. You can even make it yourself. Most of that Tofurky bullshyt be havin soy in them, I prefer other vegetables like eggplant and shyt.

Or for instance, eggplant "parmesan" cheese.

 

[Elle Driver]

you need to do research
meat protein is far more likely to lead to various types of cancer than vegetable proteins


men tend to consume more meat in their diets than women and have always lived a shorter life compared to females

That's the problem with misinformation, even as a kid I was a vegetarian and my moms mistakenly thought that the best source of iron is in red meat. That's cause they used to push the idea of eating red meat for protein and especially if you had anemia, now they're saying it's associated with heart disease and shyt.

I'm good with my kale.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

That's the problem with misinformation, even as a kid I was a vegetarian and my moms mistakenly thought that the best source of iron is in red meat. That's cause they used to push the idea of eating red meat for protein and especially if you had anemia, now they're saying it's associated with heart disease and shyt.

I'm good with my kale.

it is crazy how capitalism has all these companies lying to us about health


meat and dairy products are harmful

and I eat meat still (sparingly) but i know that it is doing nothing of benefit to me

funny how i grew up seeing milk commercials, thinking that it would help me grow strong
and come to find out it is poison to the human digestive track

 

[Boogie]

Y'all nikkas derailing threads and shyt.​

 

[Nintendough]

Yall might have added a few years to a bren life with this information

 

[Elle Driver]

it is crazy how capitalism has all these companies lying to us about health


meat and dairy products are harmful

and I eat meat still (sparingly) but i know that it is doing nothing of benefit to me

funny how i grew up seeing milk commercials, thinking that it would help me grow strong
and come to find out it is poison to the human digestive track

Imagine how dairy is produced, ironically from the enzymes in the digestive tract of cattle and shyt.

I've never had no dairy in my life either, shout out to my paranoid dad.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Y'all nikkas derailing threads and shyt.​

 

[Exiled Martian]

you need to do research
meat protein is far more likely to lead to various types of cancer than vegetable proteins


men tend to consume more meat in their diets than women and have always lived a shorter life compared to females

also one of the main factors leading to men having ED is the over abundance of meat they consume

... ...I think I've done a fair amount of research back when I was in a 'vegetated state' (car accident & cuirosity lead me to look into it prior to getting back into fitness etc) on the whole Meat Vs Plant scenario. Men in general tend to live shorted life spans than women this has several other variable factors to thank than just diet....abundance of MEAT caused ED.. the irony in that is so Now don't get me wrong...now being healthy and a vegetarian is indeed possible. However, Vegan is a completely different thing. You can't consume any animal products at all. A lot of male vegetarians use Whey protein to get complete proteins for stuff like body building. It's one of the few complete proteins with every amino acid that you need that isn't meat. Vegans can't consume animal products. So I don't know how they would manage to get protein for body building. Soy is pro-estrogen, and bad for testosterone. The proteins in produce/grains typically need combinations to get complete proteins. Eating beans and rice all the time sounds like a good idea if you like taking 5 shiiitts every day. ..It is possible to live without eating meat, obviously. However, most Vegans are deficient in some nutrients that are very difficult to replace without eating meat. On the flip side, most Vegans put more effort into eating healthy than your average Westerner, so they tend to be healthier, despite the deficiencies from lack of meat. Many people have many vitamin and nutrient deficiencies.

Like many things, it simply comes down to personal preference. I have no problems with Vegans or Vegetarians so long as they aren't trying to force me into their lifestyle. I like my chicken, turkey, and fish, Also:

1. If God didn't want people to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of meat.

2. My ancestors didn't fight their way to the top of the foodchain so I could eat plants.





*eating a Chicken Teryaki Subway while typing this*

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

... ...I think I've done a fair amount of research back when I was in a 'vegetated state' (car accident & cuirosity lead me to look into it prior to getting back into fitness etc) on the whole Meat Vs Plant scenario. Men in general tend to live shorted life spans than women this has several other variable factors to thank than just diet....abundance of MEAT caused ED.. the irony in that is so Now don't get me wrong...now being healthy and a vegetarian is indeed possible. However, Vegan is a completely different thing. You can't consume any animal products at all. A lot of male vegetarians use Whey protein to get complete proteins for stuff like body building. It's one of the few complete proteins with every amino acid that you need that isn't meat. Vegans can't consume animal products. So I don't know how they would manage to get protein for body building. Soy is pro-estrogen, and bad for testosterone. The proteins in produce/grains typically need combinations to get complete proteins. Eating beans and rice all the time sounds like a good idea if you like taking 5 shiiitts every day. ..It is possible to live without eating meat, obviously. However, most Vegans are deficient in some nutrients that are very difficult to replace without eating meat. On the flip side, most Vegans put more effort into eating healthy than your average Westerner, so they tend to be healthier, despite the deficiencies from lack of meat. Many people have many vitamin and nutrient deficiencies.

Like many things, it simply comes down to personal preference. I have no problems with Vegans or Vegetarians so long as they aren't trying to force me into their lifestyle. I like my chicken, turkey, and fish, Also:

1. If God didn't want people to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of meat.

2. My ancestors didn't fight their way to the top of the foodchain so I could eat plants.





*eating a Chicken Teryaki Subway while typing this*

do you brah

*props*

 

[Exiled Martian]

do you brah

*props*

Will do breh... Organic Omnivorism is the best, healthiest way to go!

 

[Exiled Martian]

lol The only reason Humans have consciousness and highly developed brains is because of their heavy protein diets that began once they learned how to cook meat. Keep kicking that vegan nonsense though.

& thats at least one good part of our ancestors eating other animals - brainpower! Carnivorous behavior allowed ancient man to pickup much more protein in the wild than most elements of a herbivorous diet. The larger a critter's (man's) brain is, the more proteins are needed to support it. As early man began to eat more and more meat, the opportunity arose for the size of our brains to increase - providing more intellectual capacity. In our current evolutionary/developmental situation, we still need that protein that our old folks did...but we have ways other than meat to get it. Some of us choose to go the "OMFG-DON'T-EVEN-SNIFF-AN-ANIMAL-OR-WE'RE-ALL-EVIL-DEATH EATERS" route, some go plain-jane vegetarian, & still others (myself included) eat everything that cannot outrun them...


@Elle Driver Some facts for you to ponder over (Hopefully this will help you switch sides) as i can 100% guarantee you are not getting ALL your adequte nutrional needs from sustaining a Vegan lifestyle!

• you need amino acids to build enzymes, proteins, and play a HUGE role in creating atp through the tca cycle. the fact is that you don't get all of your essential amino acids from plants (unless you really, really love soy).

• vegan diets don't offer enough calories, typically. you've got to eat constantly to get enough calories and by doing that, you'd be increasing your digestion metabolism, forcing you to eat more.

• plants also don't have a high concentration in calcium, so you'd have to take supplements. you need calcium for bone matrix, hormonal regulation, muscle contration, cell equilibrium, etc.

• vitamin d (and riboflavin) is typically deficient in vegetarian diets because they don't drink milk. you'd have to get your vit d from sunlight, sunlight lamps, or supplements.

• absorption of various metals like manganese, zinc, iron, etc tends to suck in vegetarians because of all the fiber (it inhibits the absoprtion) and because meat is a major source.

• Vegans can't get enough b12/cobalamin, which is MAJOR for nervous system damage/neuropathy, cell division, and hematopeisis (red blood cell synthesis), among other things. you b12 from foods like eggs, meat, and dairy products.