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O aiight my b Hilario Campos and Muniz family are Cuban origin.

But the modern families are if Cuban and Brazilian origin. People use them interchangeable
:ehh:Was there a lot of intermarriage in Nigeria between Cubans and Brazilians due to similar experiences (Catholicism, repatriation etc.)
 

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Like I said Cubans are the only NOBLE island Hispanics. :wow:

These people sacrificed their economies to fight for Angola against racist ass Apartheid South Africa and they didn't even get a real thank you.:wow:
From what I've seen online

Angolans and Namibians are very much appreative of Cubans and Castro
 

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:ehh:Was there a lot of intermarriage in Nigeria between Cubans and Brazilians due to similar experiences (Catholicism, repatriation etc.)


Yeah most people would just say brazil because the influence was bigger but its obvious in the last names though they look similar lopes is different than lopez,

most africans who are of cuban or brazilian origin dont really differentiate as theyre seen as the same since they intermingled the most.
 
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Was doing some reading and found that many of the Black slaves brought here to the states were bought from the Spaniards and Portuguese from islands like Haiti, Jamaica, and Cuba because the Brits were too broke to go to the source at the time and those slaves were already "broken". Whats your intellectual take on that @Dip? Also, how true is it that that Spanish/Portuguese treated their slaves worse than here in America (basically, most had a life expectancy of about 7-10 years)?...
 

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Was doing some reading and found that many of the Black slaves brought here to the states were bought from the Spaniards and Portuguese from islands like Haiti, Jamaica, and Cuba because the Brits were too broke to go to the source at the time and those slaves were already "broken". Whats your intellectual take on that @Dip? Also, how true is it that that Spanish/Portuguese treated their slaves worse than here in America (basically, most had a life expectancy of about 7-10 years)?...
Actually the British and Portuguese were the biggest traders with the Portuguese being the biggest then supplanted by the British

I'm not too knowledgeable on North American slave trade @Akan @IllmaticDelta @Poitier mifgt be better able to touch on the specifics

I can say that the Spanish has little prescence in Africa due to many reasons, one being the Treaty of Tordesillas
But these charts indicate that Jamaica export a substantial amount of slaves to other colonies

estimates-of-reexports-1716-1790.jpg

slave-re-exports-from-jamaica-1701-1807.jpg


So to answer your question slaves in the US were taken straight from Africa as well as bought from places in the Caribbean

To address your second question, whether the Spanish and Portuguese treated their slaves worse is a debate rhst differs based on the colonies in question and your perspective.

Many (mostly Latin) folks will claim Brazil and the Spanish Americas treated their slaves better the British and French because of the lack of sharp racial divides, manumission rates and interracial marriage in those places. The truth is in places like Cuba and Brazil it was more profitable to import a slave then keep him/her alive leading to high mortality, high amounts of importation, and numerous violent revolts while in a place like the thirteen colonies slaves were able to reproduce itself

DR is interesting because it didn't develop a large plantation style economy like neighboring islands so for most of its history it was full of poor whites AND slaves. Often these poor whites did the same work and had children with these slaves leading to a high free mixed population. Because of this many Dominicans argue that slavery wasn't so bad there.
 

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Actually the British and Portuguese were the biggest traders with the Portuguese being the biggest then supplanted by the British

I'm not too knowledgeable on North American slave trade @Akan @IllmaticDelta @Poitier mifgt be better able to touch on the specifics

I can say that the Spanish has little prescence in Africa due to many reasons, one being the Treaty of Tordesillas
But these charts indicate that Jamaica export a substantial amount of slaves to other colonies

estimates-of-reexports-1716-1790.jpg

slave-re-exports-from-jamaica-1701-1807.jpg


So to answer your question slaves in the US were taken straight from Africa as well as bought from places in the Caribbean

To address your second question, whether the Spanish and Portuguese treated their slaves worse is a debate rhst differs based on the colonies in question and your perspective.

Many (mostly Latin) folks will claim Brazil and the Spanish Americas treated their slaves better the British and French because of the lack of sharp racial divides, manumission rates and interracial marriage in those places. The truth is in places like Cuba and Brazil it was more profitable to import a slave then keep him/her alive leading to high mortality, high amounts of importation, and numerous violent revolts while in a place like the thirteen colonies slaves were able to reproduce itself

DR is interesting because it didn't develop a large plantation style economy like neighboring islands so for most of its history it was full of poor whites AND slaves. Often these poor whites did the same work and had children with these slaves leading to a high free mixed population. Because of this many Dominicans argue that slavery wasn't so bad there.
Never heard of that treaty. Gonna have to look it up. Thanks for th reply!

And you could always come back to this thread. There's a lot of information out there regarding the diaspora and frankly I don't get to read much about Cuba.
 
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