Africa is starting to have second thoughts about Chinese loans as crippling debt looms

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#wetriedtowarnyou :manny::beli:
People on this board would call you a "c00n" for pointing this out. I remember how @African Peasant and that one Kenyan on this board (I think his name is Emeritus or some shyt like that) would call me c00n for saying this.

To make matters worse Africa doesn't really have the trained engineers to maintain all the infrastructure that China is building. Maintenance cost will go through the roof.
 

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That's the thing about loans, eventually you have to pay them back :francis:
Breh I honestly think that Africa as a continent is done (whith the exception of a few countries). Once the fourth industrial revolution kicks into high gear (AI, iOT, edge computing etc.) there's really not much we can do to catch up to the rest of the world :sadcam:.
 

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People on this board would call you a "c00n" for pointing this out. I remember how @African Peasant and that one Kenyan on this board (I think his name is Emeritus or some shyt like that) would call me c00n for saying this.

To make matters worse Africa doesn't really have the trained engineers to maintain all the infrastructure that China is building. Maintenance cost will go through the roof.


Yes, according to media the COUNTRY of Africa is woried of being debt crippled by China.

The COUNTRY of Africa should remain in that state without infrastructures, so Kinshas2pasadena and other cats who do not care about Africa will be pleased.

I even heard that China took all rivers in Africa and brought them to China.


Terrible article that's written like an "Africa 101 watercooler talking points" for whites that want to sound smart

It's shytting on Africa, so it must be true. Arfricans are eternal idiots that need westerners to help them navigate in this world.
 

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Yes, according to media the COUNTRY of Africa is woried of being debt crippled by China.

The COUNTRY of Africa should remain in that state without infrastructures, so Kinshas2pasadena and other cats who do not care about Africa will be pleased.

I even heard that China took all rivers in Africa and brought them to China.
It might as well be the country of Africa. Compared to the rest of the world all African countries are taking Ls collectively. The brain drain from doctors and engineers leaving for the west doesn't help either.
 

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It might as well be the country of Africa. Compared to the rest of the world all African countries are taking Ls collectively. The brain drain from doctors and engineers leaving for the west doesn't help either.

Of course, the country of Africa is taking L's. I mean look at how China is colonizing the province of Mali with debts. Crazy.
 

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maybe its time you start reading and educating yourself then. This shouldn't be hard to understand for an adult, especially a black one.
I'm African myself. He has a point. I'm starting to think that we are just short sighted. Take a look at how the Japanese reacted when Matthew Perry hit their shores. That led to the Meiji Restoration and Japan transformed itself from a feudal farm based country to a modern industrial powerhouse in less than 20 years. They went on to become the first nonwhite country to defeat a white country (Russia). Why didn't a single African country do that???
 

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Of course, the country of Africa is taking L's. I mean look at how China is colonizing the province of Mali with debts. Crazy.
You're running in circles but my point still stands. until literacy rates go up and science/math is prioritized over there, there's not much advancing that we can do. Keep in mind that the Meiji Restoration (Japan) and Deng Xiaoping (China) both focused on making sure that their citizens were literate and proficient in science and math. This is honestly what lead to both countries advancing so fast. Before you say "Japan had the help from America", I am talking about Japan before WW1. Most African countries instead are filled with superstition and religion; literacy rates barely crack 50 percent in some areas SMH:picard:.

Nigeria has the potential to be a world power but they don't seem to care to educate their lower class (India has the same problem). Angola, Kenya, and Ghana has potential as well. Other than that, the other countries are pretty much done for :francis:.
 

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You're running in circles but my point still stands. until literacy rates go up and science/math is prioritized over there, there's not much advancing that we can do. Keep in mind that the Meiji Restoration (Japan) and Deng Xiaoping (China) both focused on making sure that their citizens were literate and proficient in science and math. This is honestly what lead to both countries advancing so fast. Before you say "Japan had the help from America", I am talking about Japan before WW1. Most African countries instead are filled with superstition and religion; literacy rates barely crack 50 percent in some areas SMH:picard:.

Nigeria has the potential to be a world power but they don't seem to care to educate their lower class (India has the same problem). Angola, Kenya, and Ghana has potential as well. Other than that, the other countries are pretty much done for :francis:.



This is not the debate. The debate is about Chinese debt.

You want to have a thread on Africa. Do it?

Ethiopia, Guinea Equatorial, Namibia, Bostwana, Tanzania, Mauritus are done for? Really. You're really a specialist. Africa is not country. But I will let you cook on that. You know better...
 

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I'm African myself. He has a point. I'm starting to think that we are just short sighted. Take a look at how the Japanese reacted when Matthew Perry hit their shores. That led to the Meiji Restoration and Japan transformed itself from a feudal farm based country to a modern industrial powerhouse in less than 20 years. They went on to become the first nonwhite country to defeat a white country (Russia). Why didn't a single African country do that???
This is incredibly ahistorical and racist.
 

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It's shytting on Africa, so it must be true. Arfricans are eternal idiots that need westerners to help them navigate in this world.
Lol, the single fact that the article is talking about debts and not mentioning that countries like France have locked their old colonies into contracts that handed over their gold mines to france and forced them to use France's currency made me throw up a little.

:pachaha: Where do people think European countries get the money to fund their wage increases and universal healthcare packages
 

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This is incredibly ahistorical and racist.
I've proven I'm black multiple times on this board. I just find it odd how not a single African country took it upon themselves to do something similar to the Meiji Restoration. It's literally been the template that Singapore and China followed as well.
 

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Many countries had to pick their poison

Take the Chinese debt and in return you get real infrastructure built and no real political dictation on you. Drawback, you end up not able to pay it and it accumulates

Or go the ol' Washington Consensus route or the former colonial masters route...
 

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Zambia is not really a representative case of the state of China-Africa dealings.

Bipolar competition is good for Africa, as is China's interest in the continent.
 

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I've proven I'm black multiple times on this board. I just find it odd how not a single African country took it upon themselves to do something similar to the Meiji Restoration. It's literally been the template that Singapore and China followed as well.
:scust: How are you African posting this mess? Kinshasa too? You sound like a colonial puppet. What happened to Patrice Lumumba sir?
 
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