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[GetInTheTruck]

Wait, who was making assumptions about who in that thread?

You assumed I'd only been to India "a few times" and then you called me a "fakkit" before I had said one word about you. Then you ripped on my wife for supposedly being Arab (she's not) and claimed I was a "foreigner with feigned concern for the lowly native" and lied saying that I'd sent you PM's "about women brushed up on in crowded Indian markets" before I had made ONE assumption about your insecure American self. Not to mention all the other mocking you engaged in about the things that I actually did say about myself.

You were already ripping on me and talking down to me like crazy long before I put you in your place.

Nah, I ripped on you for talking down to me with your essay in hindi, assuming that every Indian gives Hindi that much importance, engaging in a disgusting display of posturing and self aggrandizement in that thread, then pming me in a much more neutral tone when because you don't have an audience. I don't have to respect that and I don't respect you for that.

And of the few and very clearly stated assumptions I made, the ONLY one which you claimed I was wrong about was that your parents were wealthier than the average Indian....and if you really want me to believe that your parents were English speakers from Delhi and Bengaluru who immigrated to America and had you there in the 1980s or whatever while being poorer than the average Indian.

I don't care what you believe. There is a frequent poster here who lived in the same neighborhood I grew up in and knew personally for years before I moved outta there. If it's that serious to you can satisfy your curiosity and ask him about how and where I grew up. I was never the poorest, but certainly not as well off as the average south Indian American family in the USA.

No, I actually asked you a series of questions with various possibilities of quite a wide range:

"Is your family Muslim or not? Are they the kind of violent people you are railing against here, or just idiots who are ignorant of their own religious teachings? Or were you a Muslim convert? Is this some sort of thing where you starting practicing Islam to simp for some Muslim chick or chicks, and when it didn’t work out you flipped back to the traditional hate with a vengeance? Which one was it? We deserve the truth."

Later on in the same comment I made a joke about you going to Islam for a girl, but that was pretty obviously a joke and you had the whole series of questions to show that I was leaving the door open.






So you admit that despite having an Indian background, your personal and family's experience of Islam in reality was benign enough that you chose yourself to follow Islam for a significant time in your life.

I'm trying to understand the world where young GetInTheTruck can have such a positive experience of Islam that he actually became a Muslim, yet anyone else is an idiot for saying things as simple as "you shouldn't paint all Muslims with the same brush."

Of course there are good things about Islam which I respect and admire, otherwise I wouldn't have taken it up. But there have been some uncomfortable interactions with some regular everyday Muslims, or at least I thought they were, that made me uncomfortable. Uncomfortable enough to where after a few years i stopped going to masjids and practiced privately. This led to being honest with myself, really reassessing my feelings about islam as a system of beliefs, and coming to the conclusion that ive transgressed beyond the point of compatibility with the religion. I never took my families opinions on anything into consideration when it comes to this type of thing because I am not close with the majority of my family and its been that way since I was around 9 years old. My comments about Islam are based on my own experiences as a former practicing Muslim and the reality of the world we live in today.

So going on a rampage across the state and murdering thousands of innocent people and destroying hundreds of places of worship, at times under the orchestration of actual political figures in power, is justifiable because someone else committed a terrorist attack first?



It must have been shocking as hell when 9/11 happened in the States, and only 2-3 "Muslim-looking" people got murked by random racists and we didn't burn all their mosques down.

Again, Muslims have done the same thing in India for 1200 years, there were other incidents in gujurat at the time where Hindus were attacked that were underreported in the Indian media, as always, that helped fan the flames no pun intended. Islam's legacy in India has been that of foreign oppression, so of course the response to 9-11 wouldn't be anywhere near similar.

There isn't a single person alive whose grandparents, or great-grandparents, or great-great-great-great-great grandparents were a "subverted population" to Muslim rulers of India. Hell, there was oppression and massacres under the British in living memory and for a couple hundred years before that, but you don't see mobs of Indians killing White people and burning down all the churches. (Okay, maybe that happens from time to time, but not nearly on the same scale.)

The ugly truth is that British rule in India was much more benign than Islamic rule. Sorry, but it is what it is. You hate to make the comparison but if forced to what can you really say.

When did this become a referendum on India's treatment of Muslims?

You claimed that Hindus never did a certain action, I proved rather easily that you were wrong. I ain't here to debate the institutional policies of India, I'm pointing out that your stereotypes and generalizations can come back to haunt you.

It's obvious that Muslims in India have had to go through some trials, and it's obvious that things could be worse. There are people in India, even politicians from the ruling party, who have advocated destroying more mosques, voiced support for mobs who killed Muslims on the mere rumor that they had eaten beef, stated that only Hindu-background Muslims should be allowed the vote, claimed that Muslims were all trying to lure their Hindu girls away, etc.

I think it's really great that the Father of India, Gandhi, the drafter of India's constitution, Ambedkar, and the first prime minister of India, Nehru, were all unified in the belief that people from all religious should be equal in India. But you also have to acknowledge that not everyone in India, including not all of the political parties, have agreed on that note. Do you even agree with the views of any of those three guys who set that standard?



Wait, what? You're talking about knowing someone who fled Pakistan after partition like that's some sort of evidence when millions of people fled India at the same time for the same reason?



I mean, you can compare yourself to Pakistan and all like being better than Pakistan is some sort of accomplishment, but that don't get you far.

India's ranking in this religious freedom index (5.0) is barely different than Bangladesh's (5.2) and pales in comparison to every Western nation on the list. And it says that in 2007 Bangladesh was at a 4.0, significantly better than India...as is Nigeria.

And the USCIRF report has India as a "Tier 2" religious oppression nation, "where governments engage in or tolerate violations that are serious but not CPC-level," while Bangladesh, Bahrain, and Kyrgyzstan are only Tier 3, "religious freedom concerns in six countries that do not meet CPC or Tier 2 thresholds." Of course, there are a lot of social, historical, AND religious reasons for the current political realities, so it would be ridiculous to simply list the nations by religion as if that explains the whole thrust. You can't name a Hindu country with better religious freedom than the USA, does that allow random Coli posters to dump on Hinduism?

Gandhi is the father of Pakistan. Not India bro. The subcontinent has always been religiously diverse and is the birthplace of 4 world religions....Islam is the only one that came in from outside and exhibited never before seen levels of brutality and subjugation to the local populace. Ancient places of learning like nalanda are gone thanks to them and no one else.

Today there are churches in India, Buddhist temples, Jain shrines, Sikh pilgrimage sites, and yes even mosques where the adhan blares 5 times daily....has Mr modi set out to destroy these places? Where is this type of diversity displayed in any Muslim country? answer that question honestly instead of overcomplicating the issue. Muslims lives better lives in india than they do in their own countries, but as always, too many of them are ungrateful.

 

[lamont614]

You're really taking pride in this? 2012 posters.

Let that hurt go young nikka


My cowboys is working the bag is on the way

 

[Gonzo]

He was labeled a terrorist quick

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nah, I ripped on you for talking down to me with your essay in hindi, assuming that every Indian gives Hindi that much importance, engaging in a disgusting display of posturing and self aggrandizement in that thread, then pming me in a much more neutral tone when because you don't have an audience. I don't have to respect that and I don't respect you for that.

I'm sorry, since the thread was about people who spoke HINDI in a HINDI-SPEAKING region of India and since Hindi is by FAR the most commonly-spoken mother tongue in India and the language of national newspapers and government business (not to mention Bollywood), I thought it was mildly relevant to the question of whether I was familiar with the incidents discussed that I could speak it. You had assumed I had just "been there a few times", I proved you wrong. I never assumed you could speak it, I left it ambiguous whether you understood what I said. But whether or not you give Hindi "that much importance", it was obviously important to the topic of the thread.

And you're complaining that I pm'd you in a non-aggressive manner.

I don't care what you believe. There is a frequent poster here who lived in the same neighborhood I grew up in and knew personally for years before I moved outta there. If it's that serious to you can satisfy your curiosity and ask him about how and where I grew up. I was never the poorest, but certainly not as well off as the average south Indian American family in the USA.

"Not wealthier than the average Indian" to "not as well off as the average south Indian American family in the USA" is a GIGANTIC shift in the goalposts.

So you're now admitting that my original "assumption", which was that your family was wealthier than the average INDIAN at that time, was accurate. The average South Indian alone, even the ones still in India, are a lot wealthier than the majority in the much larger North India, and the thread was about North India.

So you are all upset about assumptions I made, which got you so upset to justify your nasty language towards me (even though I made my assumptions after you made yours), but was there a single assumption I made about you that was actually wrong?

Of course there are good things about Islam which I respect and admire, otherwise I wouldn't have taken it up. But there have been some uncomfortable interactions with some regular everyday Muslims, or at least I thought they were, that made me uncomfortable. Uncomfortable enough to where after a few years i stopped going to masjids and practiced privately. This led to being honest with myself, really reassessing my feelings about islam as a system of beliefs, and coming to the conclusion that ive transgressed beyond the point of compatibility with the religion. I never took my families opinions on anything into consideration when it comes to this type of thing because I am not close with the majority of my family and its been that way since I was around 9 years old. My comments about Islam are based on my own experiences as a former practicing Muslim and the reality of the world we live in today.

I'm glad you've backed off from "Islam is violent in its very nature" to "there are good things about Islam which I respect and admire".

So while in the last thread you were basically saying that without any evidence, your word on what goes on in India was superior to mine...now here you're downplaying your connection like crazy. You complained that my conclusion that you didn't know much about today's realities in the country you never lived in was "condescending", yet now you're basically saying that you didn't know much about today's realities in the country because you're not even close to your own people there?

Again, Muslims have done the same thing in India for 1200 years, there were other incidents in gujurat at the time where Hindus were attacked that were underreported in the Indian media, as always, that helped fan the flames no pun intended. Islam's legacy in India has been that of foreign oppression, so of course the response to 9-11 wouldn't be anywhere near similar.

The ugly truth is that British rule in India was much more benign than Islamic rule. Sorry, but it is what it is. You hate to make the comparison but if forced to what can you really say.

Come on man, the average person on the ground doesn't have the slightest clue what Islamic rule was like 300+ years ago. Old people in any country don't even remember what life was like in the 1950s and 1960s correctly and wax nostaligic with ridiculous false memories of the "good old days", and you're acting like 21st-century incidents will be based on an accurate cultural memory of someone who governed in the freaking 1600s. The only way people on the streets evaluate that time period is via the propaganda of those who are trying to manipulate them. No one outside of the occasional academic, anywhere in the world, has an accurate idea of the actions of this or that ruling leader in distant history when they can't even remember themselves accurately what it was like the last time whatever previous party was in rule in their own state.

Trying to run with, "The mobs killed thousands of Muslims in 2002 because Muslim rule was just that bad in 1631" when you admit that you were clueless about that reality yourself until recent history is beyond ridiculous.

Gandhi is the father of Pakistan. Not India bro.

Yeah, we get it, you side with the people who assassinated Gandhi, not Gandhi.

Gandhi was widely called "Bapu" and "the Father of the Nation". No one else.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And you're complaining that I pm'd you in a non-aggressive manner.
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Do you send pm's to everybody you have an argument with? What part of the game is that

 

[GetInTheTruck]

I'm sorry, since the thread was about people who spoke HINDI in a HINDI-SPEAKING region of India and since Hindi is by FAR the most commonly-spoken mother tongue in India and the language of national newspapers and government business (not to mention Bollywood), I thought it was mildly relevant to the question of whether I was familiar with the incidents discussed that I could speak it. You had assumed I had just "been there a few times", I proved you wrong. I never assumed you could speak it, I left it ambiguous whether you understood what I said. But whether or not you give Hindi "that much importance", it was obviously important to the topic of the thread.

Na, from previous posts of yours I was already aware that you had more knowledge of India than the average coli poster, and I also knew that you had spent extensive time there, barring specifics. You mention it in every thread on India on here that you participate in. But let's not kid ourselves, you wrote that post in hindi because you wanted to get one up on me by displaying your great knowledge and familiarity with India in comparison to me, an Indian who was born and raised in America. When white people do that to blacks and other non-white people in regards to their native or ancestral cultures you accuse them of racism. But don't worry, I won't play that card, I just see things for what it is. I don't think you're racist, I just think you're needlessly full of yourself.

And you're complaining that I pm'd you in a non-aggressive manner.

Na, it came off as fake. In public threads you're attacking me personally and talking down to me, but then you PM me on some humble shyt. I'd respect you more if you picked a lane and stayed in it.

"Not wealthier than the average Indian" to "not as well off as the average south Indian American family in the USA" is a GIGANTIC shift in the goalposts.

So you're now admitting that my original "assumption", which was that your family was wealthier than the average INDIAN at that time, was accurate. The average South Indian alone, even the ones still in India, are a lot wealthier than the majority in the much larger North India, and the thread was about North India.

You're trying to bait me into disproving your assumptions and steer the discourse. I already said there's somebody here who can tell you where I grew up, who I hung out with, what my house looked like, whether my pops was around, etc. So believe what you want or drop the subject. I never fronted on here about shyt, so go play that game with someone else.

I'm glad you've backed off from "Islam is violent in its very nature" to "there are good things about Islam which I respect and admire".

Islam can be violent by nature while still having some redeeming qualities. But overall, it's still an ideology incompatible with modernity and living peacefully and cooperatively with other groups, since it's ultimate end goal is to eventually subvert those groups and establish Islam as as the supreme authority. It's history proves that.

So while in the last thread you were basically saying that without any evidence, your word on what goes on in India was superior to mine...now here you're downplaying your connection like crazy. You complained that my conclusion that you didn't know much about today's realities in the country you never lived in was "condescending", yet now you're basically saying that you didn't know much about today's realities in the country because you're not even close to your own people there?

I said I'm not close to my family here. The only fam I am semi close to are a few relatives on my mothers side who live in India, and like 2 aunts in NJ. I was born and raised in nyc, most of my fam in america live deep in the burbs in different states. I only saw them when I was very young, before my parents split. After that it was just me and my moms, so I didn't have any family around to influence my opinions on muslims or anybody else for that matter. I followed my own route. That's what I was trying to get across because you asked how a guy like me could have ever gotten into Islam.

Come on man, the average person on the ground doesn't have the slightest clue what Islamic rule was like 300+ years ago. Old people in any country don't even remember what life was like in the 1950s and 1960s correctly and wax nostaligic with ridiculous false memories of the "good old days", and you're acting like 21st-century incidents will be based on an accurate cultural memory of someone who governed in the freaking 1600s. The only way people on the streets evaluate that time period is via the propaganda of those who are trying to manipulate them. No one outside of the occasional academic, anywhere in the world, has an accurate idea of the actions of this or that ruling leader in distant history when they can't even remember themselves accurately what it was like the last time whatever previous party was in rule in their own state.

Trying to run with, "The mobs killed thousands of Muslims in 2002 because Muslim rule was just that bad in 1631" when you admit that you were clueless about that reality yourself until recent history is beyond ridiculous.





Yeah, we get it, you side with the people who assassinated Gandhi, not Gandhi.

Gandhi was widely called "Bapu" and "the Father of the Nation". No one else.

That's like saying since the average black person in America doesn't remember what it was like to be a slave, they have no right to speak on that ugly history and allow it to guide their worldviews to the extent that they don't ever fall victim to that type of oppression again. Again, you are holding Indians to an entirely different standard than you would others.

As for Gandhi, opinions on him in India and among Indians are incredibly diverse. Just calling him the father of India when speaking to an Indian and expecting them to oblige you is the height of tone-deafness, but that seems to be your expertise so go on ahead breh

 

[thekingsmen]

you guys fell for it again. Damn it's too predictable.





Hero Cop Who Killed OSU Terrorist Was In “Active Shooter” Training Video One Year Ago

November 29, 2016 By Robert Gehl 6 Comments

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The hero police officer who killed the terrorist attacker at Ohio State University Monday was also featured in an “active shooter” training video one year ago.
Abdul Razak Ali Artan drove a car into a group of students and began stabbing people. Ten were injured in the attack, but thanks to the quick actions of Officer Alan Horujko, it was not worse.
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Officer Horujko joined the OSU Police Department in January 2015. He was clearly prepared for the moment when it came. In video obtained by IJR, the officer was featured in a “Surviving an Active Shooter” training video made by the Ohio State campus administration one year ago.
In the video – designed to help students and campus workers “prepare for an active shooter,” Horujko and another officer can be seen confronting an armed and violent man.
In the video, the violent suspect was apprehended peacefully. In the real world, it isn’t always quite like this. Artan did not go as peacefully, but Officer Horujko was more than willing to use lethal force to terminate the threat.



In an interview with the school newspaper in January of 2015, Horujko describes leaving his Ohio State engineering career for a life of public service:

“I just couldn’t see myself sitting in a cubicle,” Horujko said of his decision to leave engineering and pursue law enforcement.
“By working (at Student Safety Services) and seeing what the police do, and what Student Safety does on the campus, the kind of behind-the-scenes stuff really led me to a law enforcement career,” he said.
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[Professor Emeritus]

That's like saying since the average black person in America doesn't remember what it was like to be a slave, they have no right to speak on that ugly history and allow it to guide their worldviews to the extent that they don't ever fall victim to that type of oppression again. Again, you are holding Indians to an entirely different standard than you would others.

No, it's not, because I was making the point that the history you are speaking about is not history that was personally remembered by those people involved, but rather history that they had been taught to believe.

I am very glad that you've emphasized how much a place those anti-Muslim stories played in the riots and violence. Because that is EXACTLY what was intended.

There's a reason why 2,000 people and hundreds of religious places of worship were destroyed in Gujarat. The government had been engaging in a long-term campaign to poison people's minds against Islam through a consistent distortion of history in order to create ethnic strife for political advantage. I've read secular authors on that, academic authors, Muslim authors, Dalit authors, socialist authors, foreign authors...literally the ONLY people who claim that Hinduvat history is accurate and not a purposeful distortion for political gain...are the Hinduvats themselves.

Read something like Religion, Power, and Violence, written from a diverse set of perspectives long before the Modi government came to power. Even if you don't believe that every essay is unbiased (they're not, and a couple of them aren't very good), there's far more than enough there for you to get an idea of how this history and manipulation of the masses is used for political agenda.

This is education, BJP-style. I'm interested to know if you can co-sign the validity and intentions of the anti-Muslim rhetoric in the reworked history books, when everything else they've been doing is so obviously status.

Why the BJP rewrites history

Hindu right rewriting Indian textbooks

Fears grow about Hindu "Modi-fication" of education

Na, from previous posts of yours I was already aware that you had more knowledge of India than the average coli poster, and I also knew that you had spent extensive time there, barring specifics. You mention it in every thread on India on here that you participate in. But let's not kid ourselves, you wrote that post in hindi because you wanted to get one up on me by displaying your great knowledge and familiarity with India in comparison to me, an Indian who was born and raised in America. When white people do that to blacks and other non-white people in regards to their native or ancestral cultures you accuse them of racism. But don't worry, I won't play that card, I just see things for what it is. I don't think you're racist, I just think you're needlessly full of yourself.

The ONLY reason I posted in Hindi was because you were treating me like I was some ignorant person who couldn't possibly know what was really going on. My knowledge of the language of the region in question in the article was by far my best receipts for my claim that I had a good idea of the stuff that goes down there. How would I know that you couldn't speak/read Hindi? First you seemed to be getting mad at me that I "assumed" Hindi was important to you, now you seem to have taken it the other direction and are saying that I somehow knew my knowledge of Hindi would be a one-upping of you.

And no, I don't talk about my time in India in "every thread on India". Besides that thread, the only two times I've mentioned it were on the two threads that specifically asked about people's personal experiences in India. On the other threads, like the Gandhi threads or the oil-deal thread, I didn't describe anything about my personal experiences.

Na, it came off as fake. In public threads you're attacking me personally and talking down to me, but then you PM me on some humble shyt. I'd respect you more if you picked a lane and stayed in it.

Ain't ever going to get that from me - I'm not a caricature.

You're trying to bait me into disproving your assumptions and steer the discourse. I already said there's somebody here who can tell you where I grew up, who I hung out with, what my house looked like, whether my pops was around, etc. So believe what you want or drop the subject. I never fronted on here about shyt, so go play that game with someone else.

I think you're confused about what I said.

I never tried to say a word about how you great up in America or whether you've lived a privileged life or anything like that. I didn't talk about your wealth in America, I mentioned my assumptions about your family's social status in India. The point was what circles your parents and relatives had moved in, not how hard your life has been here. I don't know anything about your life in America, nor have I ever assumed that I did.

As for Gandhi, opinions on him in India and among Indians are incredibly diverse. Just calling him the father of India when speaking to an Indian and expecting them to oblige you is the height of tone-deafness, but that seems to be your expertise so go on ahead breh

Yes, we know, the Indian alt-right assassinated Gandhi, and have been campaigning against him (with an occasional assist from certain butt-hurt British authors) ever since. Gandhi advocated for an India in which all citizens were equal, and the anti-Muslim crew, the anti-untouchables crew, and the Hinduvat crew didn't want that. So yeah, he has haters. But the fact that opinions about Gandhi are "incredibly diverse" doesn't change that literally everyone but his strongest enemies (and even some of them) credited him with gaining independence for India, and that he was widely and publicly known as the "father of India" even before that happened.

There are only three national holidays in India. Independence Day, Constitution Day, and Gandhi's birthday.

 

[skeetsinternal]

Wait, who was making assumptions about who in that thread?

You assumed I'd only been to India "a few times" and then you called me a "fakkit" before I had said one word about you. Then you ripped on my wife for supposedly being Arab (she's not) and claimed I was a "foreigner with feigned concern for the lowly native" and lied saying that I'd sent you PM's "about women brushed up on in crowded Indian markets" before I had made ONE assumption about your insecure American self. Not to mention all the other mocking you engaged in about the things that I actually did say about myself.

You were already ripping on me and talking down to me like crazy long before I put you in your place.

And of the few and very clearly stated assumptions I made, the ONLY one which you claimed I was wrong about was that your parents were wealthier than the average Indian....and if you really want me to believe that your parents were English speakers from Delhi and Bengaluru who immigrated to America and had you there in the 1980s or whatever while being poorer than the average Indian.






No, I actually asked you a series of questions with various possibilities of quite a wide range:

"Is your family Muslim or not? Are they the kind of violent people you are railing against here, or just idiots who are ignorant of their own religious teachings? Or were you a Muslim convert? Is this some sort of thing where you starting practicing Islam to simp for some Muslim chick or chicks, and when it didn’t work out you flipped back to the traditional hate with a vengeance? Which one was it? We deserve the truth."

Later on in the same comment I made a joke about you going to Islam for a girl, but that was pretty obviously a joke and you had the whole series of questions to show that I was leaving the door open.






So you admit that despite having an Indian background, your personal and family's experience of Islam in reality was benign enough that you chose yourself to follow Islam for a significant time in your life.

I'm trying to understand the world where young GetInTheTruck can have such a positive experience of Islam that he actually became a Muslim, yet anyone else is an idiot for saying things as simple as "you shouldn't paint all Muslims with the same brush."







So going on a rampage across the state and murdering thousands of innocent people and destroying hundreds of places of worship, at times under the orchestration of actual political figures in power, is justifiable because someone else committed a terrorist attack first?



It must have been shocking as hell when 9/11 happened in the States, and only 2-3 "Muslim-looking" people got murked by random racists and we didn't burn all their mosques down.






There isn't a single person alive whose grandparents, or great-grandparents, or great-great-great-great-great grandparents were a "subverted population" to Muslim rulers of India. Hell, there was oppression and massacres under the British in living memory and for a couple hundred years before that, but you don't see mobs of Indians killing White people and burning down all the churches. (Okay, maybe that happens from time to time, but not nearly on the same scale.)





When did this become a referendum on India's treatment of Muslims?

You claimed that Hindus never did a certain action, I proved rather easily that you were wrong. I ain't here to debate the institutional policies of India, I'm pointing out that your stereotypes and generalizations can come back to haunt you.

It's obvious that Muslims in India have had to go through some trials, and it's obvious that things could be worse. There are people in India, even politicians from the ruling party, who have advocated destroying more mosques, voiced support for mobs who killed Muslims on the mere rumor that they had eaten beef, stated that only Hindu-background Muslims should be allowed the vote, claimed that Muslims were all trying to lure their Hindu girls away, etc.

I think it's really great that the Father of India, Gandhi, the drafter of India's constitution, Ambedkar, and the first prime minister of India, Nehru, were all unified in the belief that people from all religious should be equal in India. But you also have to acknowledge that not everyone in India, including not all of the political parties, have agreed on that note. Do you even agree with the views of any of those three guys who set that standard?






Wait, what? You're talking about knowing someone who fled Pakistan after partition like that's some sort of evidence when millions of people fled India at the same time for the same reason?



I mean, you can compare yourself to Pakistan and all like being better than Pakistan is some sort of accomplishment, but that don't get you far.

India's ranking in this religious freedom index (5.0) is barely different than Bangladesh's (5.2) and pales in comparison to every Western nation on the list. And it says that in 2007 Bangladesh was at a 4.0, significantly better than India...as is Nigeria.

And the USCIRF report has India as a "Tier 2" religious oppression nation, "where governments engage in or tolerate violations that are serious but not CPC-level," while Bangladesh, Bahrain, and Kyrgyzstan are only Tier 3, "religious freedom concerns in six countries that do not meet CPC or Tier 2 thresholds." Of course, there are a lot of social, historical, AND religious reasons for the current political realities, so it would be ridiculous to simply list the nations by religion as if that explains the whole thrust. You can't name a Hindu country with better religious freedom than the USA, does that allow random Coli posters to dump on Hinduism?

Breh

 

[Black Nate Grey]

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Hero Cop Who Killed OSU Terrorist Was In “Active Shooter” Training Video One Year Ago

November 29, 2016 By Robert Gehl 6 Comments

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The hero police officer who killed the terrorist attacker at Ohio State University Monday was also featured in an “active shooter” training video one year ago.
Abdul Razak Ali Artan drove a car into a group of students and began stabbing people. Ten were injured in the attack, but thanks to the quick actions of Officer Alan Horujko, it was not worse.
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OSU identifies police officer who killed assailant (and likely saved lives) as Alan Horujko
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Officer Horujko joined the OSU Police Department in January 2015. He was clearly prepared for the moment when it came. In video obtained by IJR, the officer was featured in a “Surviving an Active Shooter” training video made by the Ohio State campus administration one year ago.
In the video – designed to help students and campus workers “prepare for an active shooter,” Horujko and another officer can be seen confronting an armed and violent man.
In the video, the violent suspect was apprehended peacefully. In the real world, it isn’t always quite like this. Artan did not go as peacefully, but Officer Horujko was more than willing to use lethal force to terminate the threat.



In an interview with the school newspaper in January of 2015, Horujko describes leaving his Ohio State engineering career for a life of public service:

“I just couldn’t see myself sitting in a cubicle,” Horujko said of his decision to leave engineering and pursue law enforcement.
“By working (at Student Safety Services) and seeing what the police do, and what Student Safety does on the campus, the kind of behind-the-scenes stuff really led me to a law enforcement career,” he said.
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What I don't understand is how do they get these people like the Somalian dude to go and kill people. Do they blackmail them? Offer their families money?

 

[thekingsmen]

What I don't understand is how do they get these people like the Somalian dude to go and kill people. Do they blackmail them? Offer their families money?

It was a drill played out and most likely the person who is the star of the show family is connected to gov't( foreign or domestic) or signed a DHS waiver and stay getting paid to play their part and keep quiet.


Last Year.
Regional committee to plan for mass shootings, other catastrophes

 

[SemiEnlightenedBum]

What I don't understand is how do they get these people like the Somalian dude to go and kill people. Do they blackmail them? Offer their families money?

the media is now MK Ultra..

Cognitive Dissonance..

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Today there are churches in India, Buddhist temples, Jain shrines, Sikh pilgrimage sites, and yes even mosques where the adhan blares 5 times daily....has Mr modi set out to destroy these places? Where is this type of diversity displayed in any Muslim country? answer that question honestly instead of overcomplicating the issue. Muslims lives better lives in india than they do in their own countries, but as always, too many of them are ungrateful.

nothing but truth

 

[Max B]

I'm Canadian.

u in tdot

 

[Swagnificent]

What I don't understand is how do they get these people like the Somalian dude to go and kill people. Do they blackmail them? Offer their families money?

mind control. the technology has existed since the 1960s. CIA been using it.