ACH quits Pro Wrestling. Edit: Something is wrong with breh

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That Cryme Tyme Cena stuff was awful. Cena had been like 3 years firmly removed from the Thuganomics gimmick and suddenly started bringing it back when he was getting involved with Cryme Tyme. It was blatantly clear what they were doing.
Still remember when Cena must've gotten pissed off with JTG and made sure his merch wouldn't get sold so that they would be "even steven"
 
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Toxic fandom exacerbated the deteriorating situation with ACH

Breh summed up things pretty well here.

Not going to quote the whole thing because I believe it's worth clicking through and reading for yourself.


"It’s unclear what exactly caused this change of heart or if he is truly done for good. Nevertheless, it’s apparent that something is going on with him and he needs time to sort it out. Judging by the things he said before and after he left WWE, this all seems like a build-up of various incidents.

Now, it must be said that ACH isn’t handling this situation well, but some of the response to him has been unnecessarily cruel. It started when he initially brought attention to the shirt design that ultimately caused him to leave WWE. The backlash got worse when he name-dropped and insulted Jay Lethal.

Some fans expectedly defended WWE, while others simply didn’t understand how insensitive the shirt appeared. The problem isn’t even just that they may have inadvertently alluded to an offensive caricature of black people. They ignored their talents’ concerns about the image and seemingly tried to run with the design anyway.

See, even if they didn’t see anything wrong the design, WWE handled the situation very poorly. They gaslit one of their performers, and when they got called out publicly they tried to put the onus on him. They took an incident that was probably a mistake and refused to address it as such, which is inherently racist.

More to the point, many onlookers, who haven’t experienced something like this, were also oblivious as to how microaggressions can build up until someone becomes irrational. Yes, there were many fans who supported ACH, but there was also a vocal sect who didn’t seek to understand him."
 

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Two people with bipolar disorder (if that's what it is) aren't necessarily going to behave 1:1. The exasperation makes sense. And Mauro didn't receive any where near the amount of vitriol ACH got for even bringing the whole t-shirt situation to light. People lined up to support Mauro from the outset, while ACH got harsh criticism and downplaying even at the beginning (before the Jay Lethal comments). I'm not going to be too hard on dude, because he is clearly going through something *and* there is a clear double standard wrt how people react to black wrestlers and their concerns.

they know this already dudes are playing willfully ignorant to hide their :mjpls:

don't even acknowledge it breh no illness in this world effects people the same exact way that's not how our bodies work they know this but since ACH has melanin they staying on code.
 

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Toxic fandom exacerbated the deteriorating situation with ACH



They took an incident that was probably a mistake and refused to address it as such, which is inherently racist.

More to the point, many onlookers, who haven’t experienced something like this, were also oblivious as to how microaggressions can build up until someone becomes irrational.
These two points are the biggest understated issues with this whole thing.
First of all ACH is from Texas. Breh likely dealt with microaggressions every day of his life. He is also in an inherently racist business so that probably multiplied in that regard there.

On top of that, going out of his way to speak his mind and have so many people (who dont understand or even care to understand why he was so upset) continually come for him despite how he went about it just shows how right he is.

Also if that Jay Lethal story is true, I get what he is saying there too.
 

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Did WWE even announce that they parted ways? WWE has literally been quiet this entire time, meanwhile, breh is over here self-destructing :picard:.

About 90 percent of the audience forgot the main reason why this all started, and it seems like ACH has too.

Hope breh gets help because this has been a slippery slope into madness.

Dude probably has had signs of this mental illness for a long time but it was probably swept
a lot of black wrestlers care more about protecting "the boys and the business" from disrespect than they do their own kind
And nah I'm not letting this fly :camby:

We not hearing both sides, just from the side of someone who clearly needs help.

And I only say this because I speak from experience.

I got a best friend who's checked in right now. Dude would have mental breakdowns on social media. Everyone would inbox or call him to support, understand, and at least try to calm him down. Literally a bunch of us would put in work trying to let him know he has people on his side. And every fukking time he would head right back to social media claiming nobody supported him and he would screenshot messages out of context saying everyone is fake. :mindblown:

You don't know if dudes like Shad called ACH and talked to him on the phone for hours or if the black wrestlers backstage have been fighting for him.
 
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Did WWE even announce that they parted ways? WWE has literally been quiet this entire time, meanwhile, breh is over here self-destructing :picard:.

About 90 percent of the audience forgot the main reason why this all started, and it seems like ACH has too.

Hope breh gets help because this has been a slippery slope into madness.

Dude probably has had signs of this mental illness for a long time but it was probably swept

And nah I'm not letting this fly :camby:

We not hearing both sides, just from the side of someone who clearly needs help.

And I only say this because I speak from experience.

I got a best friend who's checked in right now. Dude would have mental breakdowns on social media. Everyone would inbox or call him to support, understand, and at least try to calm him down. Literally a bunch of us would put in work trying to let him know he has people on his side. And every fukking time he would head right back to social media claiming nobody supported him and he would screenshot messages out of context saying everyone is fake. :mindblown:

You don't know if dudes like Shad called ACH and talked to him on the phone for hours or if the black wrestlers backstage have been fighting for him.
maybe he did try to talk to him and help at first, my point still stands, I get the whole idea of thinking he might be doing too much and wilding for respect my thing is shad specifically talking about him calling out fans, disrespecting the business, and "the boys"

the fans he's lashed out at are the racists minimizing his issue with the shirt and caping for wwe

the business that is deep rooted in racism that he's been a part of and has witnessed their practices first hand that us as black wrestling fans(you are black right? :mjpls:) have witnessed ourselves and called out hoping shyt would change

"the boys", I mean I could be wrong but the only pro wrestler I saw him call out is jay lethal and he explained why and if thats true he has no reason to be ashamed about that, I do think that perhaps he coulda brought light to that at a different time because all it did was overshadow his t shirt issue, but in this case fukk "protecting the boys" anybody who slaps me in my face and is on some c00n shyt is not my boy and these black wrestlers need to realize that a good chunk of these cacs dont look at you as "one of the boys"
 

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maybe he did try to talk to him and help at first, my point still stands, I get the whole idea of thinking he might be doing too much and wilding for respect my thing is shad specifically talking about him calling out fans, disrespecting the business, and "the boys"

the fans he's lashed out at are the racists minimizing his issue with the shirt and caping for wwe

the business that is deep rooted in racism that he's been a part of and has witnessed their practices first hand that us as black wrestling fans(you are black right? :mjpls:) have witnessed ourselves and called out hoping shyt would change

"the boys", I mean I could be wrong but the only pro wrestler I saw him call out is jay lethal and he explained why and if thats true he has no reason to be ashamed about that, I do think that perhaps he coulda brought light to that at a different time because all it did was overshadow his t shirt issue, but in this case fukk "protecting the boys" anybody who slaps me in my face and is on some c00n shyt is not my boy and these black wrestlers need to realize that a good chunk of these cacs dont look at you as "one of the boys"


ACH out here arguing with fat racists and trolls. I agree wrestling is rooted in racism and ACH had a legitimate gripe with the WWE. No matter how you spin it though, he's still the one that ruined the focus of it all. If you exclude the fat racists/trolls, damn near every wrestling fan was on his side. Then he went down a slippery slope calling out wrestlers not even with the company. What was the result? That became the bigger story for everyone and WWE quietly escapes.

As for the slapping incident, was it before or after ACH called him out? If it's after the WWE incident then he deserved to get slapped. People forget what is said on the internet can still get your jaw popped in real life. Think of it from Lethal's point of view, you chillen in a dying shytty company like ROH minding your business, and then another man taking a chance to randomly throw shots at your name in a public damaging way. You letting that slide??

Nobody knows what's happening behind the scenes, backstage or in messages, besides what ACH is telling us. And that dude is growling in videos.

It's just like how Brother Nature tried to play the victim on twitter recently because he got jumped at a shop. Dude was talking about how he was minding his business and then these dudes jumped him. Everyone comes to his defense just to find released footage days later of him telling people in a restaurant that they're dead. :mjlol::mjlol:

That's why I say we have to hear both sides (not WWE side on anything fukk them for that shirt).
 
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ACH out here arguing with fat racists and trolls. I agree wrestling is rooted in racism and ACH had a legitimate gripe with the WWE. No matter how you spin it though, he's still the one that ruined the focus of it all. If you exclude the fat racists/trolls, damn near every wrestling fan was on his side. Then he went down a slippery slope calling out wrestlers not even with the company. What was the result? That became the bigger story for everyone and WWE quietly escapes.

As for the slapping incident, was it before or after ACH called him out? If it's after the WWE incident then he deserved to get slapped. People forget what is said on the internet can still get your jaw popped in real life. Think of it from Lethal's point of view, you chillen in a dying shytty company like ROH minding your business, and then another man taking a chance to randomly throw shots at your name in a public damaging way. You letting that slide??

Nobody knows what's happening behind the scenes, backstage or in messages, besides what ACH is telling us. And that dude is growling in videos.

It's just like how Brother Nature tried to play the victim on twitter recently because he got jumped at a shop. Dude was talking about how he was minding his business and then these dudes jumped him. Everyone comes to his defense just to find released footage days later of him telling people in a restaurant that they're dead. :mjlol::mjlol:

That's why I say we have to hear both sides (not WWE side on anything fukk them for that shirt).
my point, hes arguing with fat racists and trolls... so why is shad caping for them on some "how dare u diss the fans!" shyt? it's one thing to address him on some "youre wasting your time arguing with them they aint worth it", its another to seemingly defend them

the slapping incident is why he called out jay lethal in the first place, they always had heat, it happened before he signed to wwe long before the t shirt thing ever happened, he got slapped because he called jay lethal "my nikka" in front of white people despite the fact that jay lethal uses that word himself according to ACH. you have it wrong if you're under the assumption that lethal recently slapped him for calling him an uncle tom and then he complained about it
 

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ACH out here arguing with fat racists and trolls. I agree wrestling is rooted in racism and ACH had a legitimate gripe with the WWE. No matter how you spin it though, he's still the one that ruined the focus of it all. If you exclude the fat racists/trolls, damn near every wrestling fan was on his side. Then he went down a slippery slope calling out wrestlers not even with the company. What was the result? That became the bigger story for everyone and WWE quietly escapes.

As for the slapping incident, was it before or after ACH called him out? If it's after the WWE incident then he deserved to get slapped. People forget what is said on the internet can still get your jaw popped in real life. Think of it from Lethal's point of view, you chillen in a dying shytty company like ROH minding your business, and then another man taking a chance to randomly throw shots at your name in a public damaging way. You letting that slide??

Nobody knows what's happening behind the scenes, backstage or in messages, besides what ACH is telling us. And that dude is growling in videos.

It's just like how Brother Nature tried to play the victim on twitter recently because he got jumped at a shop. Dude was talking about how he was minding his business and then these dudes jumped him. Everyone comes to his defense just to find released footage days later of him telling people in a restaurant that they're dead. :mjlol::mjlol:

That's why I say we have to hear both sides (not WWE side on anything fukk them for that shirt).
That Jay Lethal incident was way before.
 

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ACH need to just take some time, and then pop back up and wrestle in NJPW as Tiger Mask Dark or whatever he did that time for the tie-in from the anime. Just run that for a while. Added bonus of it hiding his hairline and making sure no one makes him cheese like that again. Do his flippy anime shyt in peace living in a monoculture built on restraint and the perception of respect, so he can be hated on quietly from behind his back. Sounds more comfortable for him, honestly.
 

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my point, hes arguing with fat racists and trolls... so why is shad caping for them on some "how dare u diss the fans!" shyt? it's one thing to address him on some "youre wasting your time arguing with them they aint worth it", its another to seemingly defend them

the slapping incident is why he called out jay lethal in the first place, they always had heat, it happened before he signed to wwe long before the t shirt thing ever happened, he got slapped because he called jay lethal "my nikka" in front of white people despite the fact that jay lethal uses that word himself according to ACH. you have it wrong if you're under the assumption that lethal recently slapped him for calling him an uncle tom and then he complained about it
That changes everything from my point of view on the lethal topic. I remember being at an event for glory pro and ach was saying nikka to everyone and the majority of the audience was white lmao. But yeah my fault I got that info mixed up. But at the same I wanna hear Lethal side.

But for that shad shyt he probably has told him to stop worrying about trolls in private 1000 times.
No matter what tho, Ach is acting the same way my friend did before he went to get help.
 

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