Abortionist calls the baby he kills "ugly Black babies"

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Both of the above are false. Most abortions take place before week 10, at which point the baby does not have a heart nor a formed brain- they barely even have a brain stem by then. If that's a "person" to you, then you should probably stop eating meat altogether.

Anti-choice propagandists love to make dishonest use of images of aborted 30 week old fetuses as if they represent the majority of abortions.

From what I've read a heartbeat begins in weeks 3-5? Is that incorrect? If so, that's before 10 weeks. From what I've read brave waves can be measured before 10 weeks? If that incorrect? 2ndly, it's a person because it's human and alive. It's just at a different stage of development of growth.
 

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So I'm getting calls to lock this thread, what the hell is going on exactly? I just scrolled quickly and saw someone say something about dragonballs :wtf:

This is a serious question.

Your too damn itchy with the trigger finger locking threads let the damn forum flow and get the fukk out of the way...if something gets a lot of responses that means people find it interesting
 

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From what I've read a heartbeat begins in weeks 3-5? Is that incorrect? If so, that's before 10 weeks. From what I've read brave waves can be measured before 10 weeks? If that incorrect? 2ndly, it's a person because it's human and alive. It's just at a different stage of development of growth.

Nah, not 3-5 weeks, breh. Just imagine how crazy it would be for a fully-formed heart to appear and start beating in 3 weeks... that would be borderline miraculous. Usually the heartbeat is first recorded at around 8 weeks. Brain waves start showing up about at around week 7 (though I have to stress here that this does not imply self-consciousness, feeling, etc... there are no thoughts or sensations in any human sense yet, just bare eletrical signals.)

As for the human and alive thing, we've been through that dozens of times already, so no point discussing it since neither of us will change each other's minds.
 

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Nah, not 3-5 weeks, breh. Just imagine how crazy it would be for a fully-formed heart to appear and start beating in 3 weeks... that would be borderline miraculous. Usually the heartbeat is first recorded at around 8 weeks. Brain waves start showing up about at around week 7 (though I have to stress here that this does not imply self-consciousness, feeling, etc... there are no thoughts or sensations in any human sense yet, just bare eletrical signals.)

As for the human and alive thing, we've been through that dozens of times already, so no point discussing it since neither of us will change each other's minds.

That's fine on the last paragraph. But both are before 10 weeks which you've stated most women have abortions.
 

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That's fine on the last paragraph. But both are before 10 weeks which you've stated most women have abortions.

I said most women have abortions before week 10. If you break that category down even more, the majority of pre-10 week abortions actually occur before week 6, with the percentage getting lower until week 10.
 

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to the pro abortionists crowd (who most likely don't believe in Creator)

if you were to discover that He does exists and that he considers abortions to be murder, on the day of Judgement, would you repent for supporting the act of murder? or not?
 

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to the pro abortionists crowd (who most likely don't believe in Creator)

if you were to discover that He does exists and that he considers abortions to be murder, on the day of Judgement, would you repent for supporting the act of murder? or not?

Well, first, I'd ask this creator the same things I ask anti-choice proponents now and see whether his answers were good or not.
 
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