Aaliyahs mother responds to R Kellys background singers claims

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I really don't know if its true he obviously was fukking her though. But doing it on a tour bus where everyone could see and it just now coming out is somewhat hard to believe.
Everybody fukks on a tour bus and someone will have seen/heard and known you were fukking at some point. This is no exception, especially if your "wife" is on the bus with you. :russell:
Mama just trying to save face cause they sold their daughter off to R. Kelly.
 

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Everybody fukks on a tour bus and someone will have seen/heard and known you were fukking at some point. This is no exception, especially if your "wife" is on the bus with you. :russell:
Mama just trying to save face cause they sold their daughter off to R. Kelly.
Miss my point entirely for daps brehs. They married secretly I realize the parents knew but everyone did not know they married considering it was illegal lol. Of course everyone fukks on tour buses but I still dont think this story adds up as I doubt they would have done it where people could so easily discover it but that is just my opinion especially considering that it took so long for someone to say anything not even a rumor until just now.
 

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Miss my point entirely for daps brehs. They married secretly I realize the parents knew but everyone did not know they married considering it was illegal lol. Of course everyone fukks on tour buses but I still dont think this story adds up as I doubt they would have done it where people could so easily discover it but that is just my opinion especially considering that it took so long for someone to say anything not even a rumor until just now.
I dont give a fukk about daps. And nothing you said is refuting anything that I said. Im telling you facts about tour bus protocols. If you fukked someone, everyone knows it unless the bus is completely empty. This also isnt about whether her trash ass parents knew about them being married. You also missed that point. Regardless of who was aware, R Kelly and Aaliyah knew they were married and looked at eachother as such. And R Kelly would certainly fukk his wife on the tour bus where everyone else is fukking.

You acting like this nikka exercises discretion and moral judgement.
 

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How can a black man get away with this crime?

Money and influence.

R. Kelly molested numerous high school girls, was basically public about it with Aaliyah, and was on video pissing on a 14-year-old with dead eyes and he ain't never served a single day.

Marvin Harrison shot a dude with witnesses, then killed the witness, he still ain't even faced charges.

Tupac shot two police officers while being openly associated with gangbangers. Those officers were asking for it and Tupac deserved to be acquitted, but you KNOW that no regular brother is getting away with that shyt under those circumstances.

Snoop and his bodyguard killed a dude, regularly bragged about his gang associations, got off.

Lawrence Taylor had sex with a 16-year-old prostitute, claimed he thought she was 19, didn't do a single day.

I still don't know if Michael Jackson really did that shyt or not, probably didn't, but you gotta acknowledge that he was so sketch about sleeping with little boys in his bed that ANY regular Black man woulda caught that sentence with the same evidence.

Donte Stallworth killed a man while driving drunk and only got 24 days.

Jayson Williams shot and killed a man, tried to cover it up, then claimed it was an accident and only got 18 months.

Don King stomped a brother to death and only did 4 years.

Pacman Jones has been arrested 74,318 times by now and only done 2 days total.

Alcee Hastings took a $150,000 bribe when he was a federal judge, got off because his co-conspirator took the heat and refused to testify against him, then the co-conspirator got pardoned by Clinton on his last day in office and Hastings got elected to the House of Representatives. :dead:

Kobe just needed to get high-priced lawyers to dig up personal crap about a girl, pay a little settlement, and his problems disappeared.

Mike Tyson had all sorts of misbehavior get disappeared before he finally caught charges.

Chris Brown beat up Rihanna, pled guilty to a felony, and didn't do a single day. Then he's been in like six more assaults and a hit-and-run since then and still ain't done time.

Women brought cases against Cosby to District Attorneys in 2000 and 2005 and the D.A.'s refused to press charges both times. There were like half-a-dozen other women who had allegations against Cosby decades ago but they were told by everyone that they had no hope going against him.

And I didn't even bring up O.J. :troll:



These guys do NOT play by the normal rules. Anyone who thinks they do is missing how the system really works. :usure:
 

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I dont give a fukk about daps. And nothing you said is refuting anything that I said. Im telling you facts about tour bus protocols. If you fukked someone, everyone knows it unless the bus is completely empty. This also isnt about whether her trash ass parents knew about them being married. You also missed that point. Regardless of who was aware, R Kelly and Aaliyah knew they were married and looked at eachother as such. And R Kelly would certainly fukk his wife on the tour bus where everyone else is fukking.

You acting like this nikka exercises discretion and moral judgement.
I'm not going to read your response but the details really don't matter at this point clearly at minimum R Kelly belongs in jail and the parents seem to have failed regardless I still don't think this particular story ads up it seems like sensationalism.
 

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I really don't know if its true he obviously was fukking her though. But doing it on a tour bus where everyone could see and it just now coming out is somewhat hard to believe.

How? The Rolling Stones kept three European groupies hostage as sex slaves in the early 70's. For about three months of their European tour. This is something that people in their road crew knew about. When they were done, they told their road manager to hold them for a few days at his place. He tried to have a threesome with them, but they ganged up on him and ran away naked. At least that's the story they are comfortable with because no one has ever heard from those two women ever again. Roger Daltrey was a male escort when he was 14. David Bowie was banging out 14 year olds. DeNiro was banging out 14 year olds with Roman Polanski when he first got his start, and pays his legal bills to this day. These aren't commonly known though. All thanks to them happening before social media, plus the advantage of things like NDA's.
 

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How? The Rolling Stones kept three European groupies hostage as sex slaves in the early 70's. For about three months of their European tour. This is something that people in their road crew knew about. When they were done, they told their road manager to hold them for a few days at his place. He tried to have a threesome with them, but they ganged up on him and ran away naked. At least that's the story they are comfortable with because no one has ever heard from those two women ever again. Roger Daltrey was a male escort when he was 14. David Bowie was banging out 14 year olds. DeNiro was banging out 14 year olds with Roman Polanski when he first got his start, and pays his legal bills to this day. These aren't commonly known though. All thanks to them happening before social media, plus the advantage of things like NDA's.
Look I am not going back and forth in this thread any longer I never said it could not be true. Not just celebs but the history of the world adults have abused children the story just simply does not add up to me imo I have already listed my reasons why I will not waste anymore time on this thread.
 

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Money and influence.

R. Kelly molested numerous high school girls, was basically public about it with Aaliyah, and was on video pissing on a 14-year-old with dead eyes and he ain't never served a single day.

Marvin Harrison shot a dude with witnesses, then killed the witness, he still ain't even faced charges.

Tupac shot two police officers while being openly associated with gangbangers. Those officers were asking for it and Tupac deserved to be acquitted, but you KNOW that no regular brother is getting away with that shyt under those circumstances.

Snoop and his bodyguard killed a dude, regularly bragged about his gang associations, got off.

Lawrence Taylor had sex with a 16-year-old prostitute, claimed he thought she was 19, didn't do a single day.

I still don't know if Michael Jackson really did that shyt or not, probably didn't, but you gotta acknowledge that he was so sketch about sleeping with little boys in his bed that ANY regular Black man woulda caught that sentence with the same evidence.

Donte Stallworth killed a man while driving drunk and only got 24 days.

Jayson Williams shot and killed a man, tried to cover it up, then claimed it was an accident and only got 18 months.

Don King stomped a brother to death and only did 4 years.

Pacman Jones has been arrested 74,318 times by now and only done 2 days total.

Alcee Hastings took a $150,000 bribe when he was a federal judge, got off because his co-conspirator took the heat and refused to testify against him, then the co-conspirator got pardoned by Clinton on his last day in office and Hastings got elected to the House of Representatives. :dead:

Kobe just needed to get high-priced lawyers to dig up personal crap about a girl, pay a little settlement, and his problems disappeared.

Mike Tyson had all sorts of misbehavior get disappeared before he finally caught charges.

Chris Brown beat up Rihanna, pled guilty to a felony, and didn't do a single day. Then he's been in like six more assaults and a hit-and-run since then and still ain't done time.

Women brought cases against Cosby to District Attorneys in 2000 and 2005 and the D.A.'s refused to press charges both times. There were like half-a-dozen other women who had allegations against Cosby decades ago but they were told by everyone that they had no hope going against him.

And I didn't even bring up O.J. :troll:



These guys do NOT play by the normal rules. Anyone who thinks they do is missing how the system really works. :usure:
Halle Berry and Brandi both caught a body. Nothing happened to either.
 

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How? The Rolling Stones kept three European groupies hostage as sex slaves in the early 70's. For about three months of their European tour. This is something that people in their road crew knew about. When they were done, they told their road manager to hold them for a few days at his place. He tried to have a threesome with them, but they ganged up on him and ran away naked. At least that's the story they are comfortable with because no one has ever heard from those two women ever again. Roger Daltrey was a male escort when he was 14. David Bowie was banging out 14 year olds. DeNiro was banging out 14 year olds with Roman Polanski when he first got his start, and pays his legal bills to this day. These aren't commonly known though. All thanks to them happening before social media, plus the advantage of things like NDA's.

"In a Thrillist piece entitled, I Lost My Virginity To David Bowie: Confessions of a ‘70s Groupie, Lori Mattix recalls a sexual encounter with Bowie when she was only 14 years old."

"The Rolling Stones sang about underage girls in “Stray Cat Blues” and Chuck Berry glorified the teenage “groupie” in “Sweet Little Sixteen” a decade earlier. "

"Mattix was also statutory raped by Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page. In the book Hammer Of the Gods, former Zeppelin road manager Richard Cole claimed that the rocker tasked him with kidnapping the teen girl. He allegedly escorted her from a nightclub and thrust her into the back of Page’s limo with the warning of stay put or “I’ll have your head.” Page kept Mattix hidden for three years to avoid legal trouble."

"Early rock ‘n’ rollers Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis both saw their careers sullied by headlines involving underage girls: Lewis revealed that he was married to his 13-year-old cousin in 1958 and was subsequently blacklisted from radio, while Berry was arrested and found guilty of transporting an underage girl across state lines for immoral purposes, spending two years in jail in 1960."

"Eagles drummer and vocalist Don Henley was arrested in 1980 in Los Angeles and charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor after paramedics were called to his home to save a naked 16-year-old girl who was overdosing on cocaine and Quaaludes. He was fined $2,000, given two years' probation, and ordered into a drug counseling program. Rocker turned right-wing caricature Ted Nugent sought out underage girls, going so far as to become the legal guardian of Pele Massa when she was 17 just to be able to duck kidnapping charges."

"Prince kept Anna Garcia, aka “Anna Fantastic,” with him at his Paisley Park compound when she was a teenager. She would ultimately become the subject of several of his late ‘80s/early ‘90s works, like “Vicki Waiting” and “Pink Cashmere,” which he wrote for Anna on her 18th birthday."

"There have been varying stories surrounding the relationship between a young Aretha Franklin and the late Sam Cooke. She has indicated in interviews that things between them became romantic, but in his unauthorized biography, David Ritz indicated that their first encounter occurred when she was only 12 years old and visited Cooke in his motel room in Atlanta. In the Sam Cooke Legends television documentary, Aretha recalled an incident involving her being in Cooke’s room, but indicated that her father interrupted what was likely going to be a sexual encounter."

"Marvin Gaye met Janis Hunter around the time of her 17th birthday, and the still-married Motown star pursued the teenager immediately. According to Hunter’s 2015 memoir After The Dance, Gaye took her to an Italian restaurant in Hollywood and bribed the waiter $20 to bring the underage girl apricot sours. He had sex with her shortly thereafter, and the two began a relationship, despite a 17-year age difference and the fact that Marvin was still legally married to his first wife, Anna Gordy. Gaye would famously write “Let’s Get It On” in tribute to his lust for Jan. "

"But the next time you watch Almost Famous, take note of how much younger most of the Band Aids seem compared to the world-weary rockers that are repeatedly shown taking them to bed (Kate Hudson’s Penny Lane says she's 16 in the film)."

"Former Rolling Stones bassist Bill Wyman infamously began seeing 13-year-old Mandy Smith in 1983. According to Smith, Wyman had sex with her when she was 14."

"The Beatles' opening track on their debut album, "I Saw Her Standing There," begins with the line, "She was just 17 / You know what I mean?""

"Ted Nugent released a song in 1981 called "Jailbait." Here are some of the lyrics: "Well, I don't care if you're just 13 / You look too good to be true / I just know that you're probably clean." "

"Julia Holcomb had just turned 16 when she met the Aerosmith singer at a concert in Portland, Oregon. She had not lived a happy life before meeting him. Her father abandoned her mother early on, and her younger brother died in a car accident when she was 13...Tyler ended up impregnating her."

"The King of rock can thank Jerry Lee Lewis' libido for disrupting a challenge to the throne, but Presley wasn't without his own girl problems. Priscilla Presley, Elvis' wife, was just 14 when the couple met. The King's attention quickly overwhelmed her, and by age 17 she was living with Elvis in Graceland. "

"Iggy Pop was one of baby groupie Sable Starr's many celebrity lovers. There's no ambiguity here — besides the many pictures of the two together, Iggy wrote a song, "Look Away," from the 1996 album Naughty Little Doggy, about their relationship. "I slept with Sable when she was 13 / Her parents were too rich to do anything / She walked her way around L.A. / Till a New York Doll carried her away.""




Music scene is demonic as hell. :damn:
 

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"In a Thrillist piece entitled, I Lost My Virginity To David Bowie: Confessions of a ‘70s Groupie, Lori Mattix recalls a sexual encounter with Bowie when she was only 14 years old."

"The Rolling Stones sang about underage girls in “Stray Cat Blues” and Chuck Berry glorified the teenage “groupie” in “Sweet Little Sixteen” a decade earlier. "

"Mattix was also statutory raped by Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page. In the book Hammer Of the Gods, former Zeppelin road manager Richard Cole claimed that the rocker tasked him with kidnapping the teen girl. He allegedly escorted her from a nightclub and thrust her into the back of Page’s limo with the warning of stay put or “I’ll have your head.” Page kept Mattix hidden for three years to avoid legal trouble."

"Early rock ‘n’ rollers Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis both saw their careers sullied by headlines involving underage girls: Lewis revealed that he was married to his 13-year-old cousin in 1958 and was subsequently blacklisted from radio, while Berry was arrested and found guilty of transporting an underage girl across state lines for immoral purposes, spending two years in jail in 1960."

"Eagles drummer and vocalist Don Henley was arrested in 1980 in Los Angeles and charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor after paramedics were called to his home to save a naked 16-year-old girl who was overdosing on cocaine and Quaaludes. He was fined $2,000, given two years' probation, and ordered into a drug counseling program. Rocker turned right-wing caricature Ted Nugent sought out underage girls, going so far as to become the legal guardian of Pele Massa when she was 17 just to be able to duck kidnapping charges."

"Prince kept Anna Garcia, aka “Anna Fantastic,” with him at his Paisley Park compound when she was a teenager. She would ultimately become the subject of several of his late ‘80s/early ‘90s works, like “Vicki Waiting” and “Pink Cashmere,” which he wrote for Anna on her 18th birthday."

"There have been varying stories surrounding the relationship between a young Aretha Franklin and the late Sam Cooke. She has indicated in interviews that things between them became romantic, but in his unauthorized biography, David Ritz indicated that their first encounter occurred when she was only 12 years old and visited Cooke in his motel room in Atlanta. In the Sam Cooke Legends television documentary, Aretha recalled an incident involving her being in Cooke’s room, but indicated that her father interrupted what was likely going to be a sexual encounter."

"Marvin Gaye met Janis Hunter around the time of her 17th birthday, and the still-married Motown star pursued the teenager immediately. According to Hunter’s 2015 memoir After The Dance, Gaye took her to an Italian restaurant in Hollywood and bribed the waiter $20 to bring the underage girl apricot sours. He had sex with her shortly thereafter, and the two began a relationship, despite a 17-year age difference and the fact that Marvin was still legally married to his first wife, Anna Gordy. Gaye would famously write “Let’s Get It On” in tribute to his lust for Jan. "

"But the next time you watch Almost Famous, take note of how much younger most of the Band Aids seem compared to the world-weary rockers that are repeatedly shown taking them to bed (Kate Hudson’s Penny Lane says she's 16 in the film)."

"Former Rolling Stones bassist Bill Wyman infamously began seeing 13-year-old Mandy Smith in 1983. According to Smith, Wyman had sex with her when she was 14."

"The Beatles' opening track on their debut album, "I Saw Her Standing There," begins with the line, "She was just 17 / You know what I mean?""

"Ted Nugent released a song in 1981 called "Jailbait." Here are some of the lyrics: "Well, I don't care if you're just 13 / You look too good to be true / I just know that you're probably clean." "

"Julia Holcomb had just turned 16 when she met the Aerosmith singer at a concert in Portland, Oregon. She had not lived a happy life before meeting him. Her father abandoned her mother early on, and her younger brother died in a car accident when she was 13...Tyler ended up impregnating her."

"The King of rock can thank Jerry Lee Lewis' libido for disrupting a challenge to the throne, but Presley wasn't without his own girl problems. Priscilla Presley, Elvis' wife, was just 14 when the couple met. The King's attention quickly overwhelmed her, and by age 17 she was living with Elvis in Graceland. "

"Iggy Pop was one of baby groupie Sable Starr's many celebrity lovers. There's no ambiguity here — besides the many pictures of the two together, Iggy wrote a song, "Look Away," from the 1996 album Naughty Little Doggy, about their relationship. "I slept with Sable when she was 13 / Her parents were too rich to do anything / She walked her way around L.A. / Till a New York Doll carried her away.""




Music scene is demonic as hell. :damn:

I will say this. And it's not in defense or R. Kelly or anything, but I am tired of these black entertainers getting called out for stuff like this, but white ones get to walk way mostly clean. I'm not condoning anything because the shyt is vile. If laundry is going to be aired though, then the whole damn entertainment industry needs to be aired out.
 

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so I haven't been watching or paying attention to any of the stuff outside of underage girl stuff that we've known for decades now, what exactly are people accusing him of with these supposed sex compounds or whatever?
 

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"In a Thrillist piece entitled, I Lost My Virginity To David Bowie: Confessions of a ‘70s Groupie, Lori Mattix recalls a sexual encounter with Bowie when she was only 14 years old."

"The Rolling Stones sang about underage girls in “Stray Cat Blues” and Chuck Berry glorified the teenage “groupie” in “Sweet Little Sixteen” a decade earlier. "

"Mattix was also statutory raped by Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page. In the book Hammer Of the Gods, former Zeppelin road manager Richard Cole claimed that the rocker tasked him with kidnapping the teen girl. He allegedly escorted her from a nightclub and thrust her into the back of Page’s limo with the warning of stay put or “I’ll have your head.” Page kept Mattix hidden for three years to avoid legal trouble."

"Early rock ‘n’ rollers Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis both saw their careers sullied by headlines involving underage girls: Lewis revealed that he was married to his 13-year-old cousin in 1958 and was subsequently blacklisted from radio, while Berry was arrested and found guilty of transporting an underage girl across state lines for immoral purposes, spending two years in jail in 1960."

"Eagles drummer and vocalist Don Henley was arrested in 1980 in Los Angeles and charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor after paramedics were called to his home to save a naked 16-year-old girl who was overdosing on cocaine and Quaaludes. He was fined $2,000, given two years' probation, and ordered into a drug counseling program. Rocker turned right-wing caricature Ted Nugent sought out underage girls, going so far as to become the legal guardian of Pele Massa when she was 17 just to be able to duck kidnapping charges."

"Prince kept Anna Garcia, aka “Anna Fantastic,” with him at his Paisley Park compound when she was a teenager. She would ultimately become the subject of several of his late ‘80s/early ‘90s works, like “Vicki Waiting” and “Pink Cashmere,” which he wrote for Anna on her 18th birthday."

"There have been varying stories surrounding the relationship between a young Aretha Franklin and the late Sam Cooke. She has indicated in interviews that things between them became romantic, but in his unauthorized biography, David Ritz indicated that their first encounter occurred when she was only 12 years old and visited Cooke in his motel room in Atlanta. In the Sam Cooke Legends television documentary, Aretha recalled an incident involving her being in Cooke’s room, but indicated that her father interrupted what was likely going to be a sexual encounter."

"Marvin Gaye met Janis Hunter around the time of her 17th birthday, and the still-married Motown star pursued the teenager immediately. According to Hunter’s 2015 memoir After The Dance, Gaye took her to an Italian restaurant in Hollywood and bribed the waiter $20 to bring the underage girl apricot sours. He had sex with her shortly thereafter, and the two began a relationship, despite a 17-year age difference and the fact that Marvin was still legally married to his first wife, Anna Gordy. Gaye would famously write “Let’s Get It On” in tribute to his lust for Jan. "

"But the next time you watch Almost Famous, take note of how much younger most of the Band Aids seem compared to the world-weary rockers that are repeatedly shown taking them to bed (Kate Hudson’s Penny Lane says she's 16 in the film)."

"Former Rolling Stones bassist Bill Wyman infamously began seeing 13-year-old Mandy Smith in 1983. According to Smith, Wyman had sex with her when she was 14."

"The Beatles' opening track on their debut album, "I Saw Her Standing There," begins with the line, "She was just 17 / You know what I mean?""

"Ted Nugent released a song in 1981 called "Jailbait." Here are some of the lyrics: "Well, I don't care if you're just 13 / You look too good to be true / I just know that you're probably clean." "

"Julia Holcomb had just turned 16 when she met the Aerosmith singer at a concert in Portland, Oregon. She had not lived a happy life before meeting him. Her father abandoned her mother early on, and her younger brother died in a car accident when she was 13...Tyler ended up impregnating her."

"The King of rock can thank Jerry Lee Lewis' libido for disrupting a challenge to the throne, but Presley wasn't without his own girl problems. Priscilla Presley, Elvis' wife, was just 14 when the couple met. The King's attention quickly overwhelmed her, and by age 17 she was living with Elvis in Graceland. "

"Iggy Pop was one of baby groupie Sable Starr's many celebrity lovers. There's no ambiguity here — besides the many pictures of the two together, Iggy wrote a song, "Look Away," from the 1996 album Naughty Little Doggy, about their relationship. "I slept with Sable when she was 13 / Her parents were too rich to do anything / She walked her way around L.A. / Till a New York Doll carried her away.""




Music scene is demonic as hell. :damn:
It’s not just music, it happens in everyday life as well
 
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